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On Jun 13, 7:02=A0pm, Graham Douglas <ondastropic...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Ray,
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I notice you say sector 1, wha=
t about sector 4 ? Maybe when you've done all of them you can show us the f=
igures for the whole distribution. Bear in mind that Astrodatabank is well =
known for errors in the data.
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 How does jupiter turn out, and=
 the other planets ? Gauquelin found a strong mars effect in businessmen to=
o.
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Regards,
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Graham.
=A0 =A0

Hi Graham,
My use of the 'Mars Effect' term was really just a rough way to the
message across quickly. The TV personalities have the increase only in
Sector 1, with Sector 4 having a normal looking distribution.

Yes, Astrodatabank data has errors, and like the Gauquelin data, it
also has a high percentage of rounded birth times, but it wouldn't
affect the results much because of the automatic averaging of errors
and the width of sectors.

I'll post some graphs in the Files section to make it easy to follow.

I wasn't focusing on TV personalities - they just happened to score
considerably better than sportsmen and many other categories for Mars
in Sector 1. Now that you ask, I can see that Jupiter is not doing
anything special, but some people might think Mercury is because of
the increase in Sectors 1 and 4.

I'm not pushing for any recognition of this minor TV personalities
observation. I'm more interested in using it as a starting point for
either showing Gauquelin was right or showing what I think has
actually been happening for SOME observations all these years - we
have been talking unknowingly about what have been *transitory* trends
for occupations or activities - and getting into endless arguments
with skeptics and colleagues about them instead of doing research to
see how long the various trends hold up.

There's no question that impressive looking  trends come and go, but
in astrological research we have a history of not even looking for
them. We have been mostly looking at static graphs that sometimes
don't even have a trend in them. Often we are only looking at a short-
term spike that raised the overall score for a particular factor.

If anyone had been seriously looking for trends they would have
noticed that the Mars Effect for Sportsmen didn't even exist after the
first 73 years of the data. It came and it completely fizzled out by
16th Feb 1890.

There was however a more reliable (but less-strong) trend that was
fairly constant throughout that 128 year period - it was that men
*wouldn't* become famous sportsmen if they had Mars in the 5th or 6th
Sectors.

> PS: in case you are interested in the current situation with Correlation =
you can hav e a look athttp://cura.free.fr, and >also my notes on the Forum=
 under the coldbaby thread.

I haven't been able to get in to have a look yet.

Ray