Tropical Astrology Research Google Group

Good transits for dangerous situations

2009-09-17T21:53:22Z

Hi All,

I've finally begun working with multiple factors for transits to see
what types of events occurred more often under certain transits in the
data being used - (mostly timed and un-timed chart and event data from
Astrodatabank).

So far, I've looked at 120 categories of events with 8 aspects chosen

Five databases

2009-09-15T18:45:11Z

Hi All,

Many of us often discuss what sort of things happen under various
transits or how various natal factors manifested in people's lives,
but usually we're working with a minimal amount of data, or if we
~can~ find lots of data in Astrodatabank etc, it's often difficult or
impossible to process it within a reasonable amount of time to get

Fw: JS2 problems

2009-08-29T10:06:40Z

Hi,
       Here is the decription of another annoying bug that I have been getting for a long time, in case anyone wants to try with their version. Please let me know what happens.
              By the way, who are you supposed to contact in Oz for JS support ?
            Over here its Roy Gillett who is always willing but some things need referring to the programmers.

Pop singers and URA in Gauquelin Sector 1

2009-08-27T19:28:53Z

Hi All,

I just noticed while processing the Astrodatabank data for 608 Pop
singers that they have always been far more inclined to have Uranus in
Gauquelin Sector 1 than the average - around 50% more often than
expected. For those who are unfamiliar with the Gauquelin Sectors,
Sector 1 roughly equates with the 12th house.

Mystical and Mystical experiences

2009-08-22T10:35:16Z

Hi All,

After mentioning the Pisces theme in Gauquelin scientists data where
SUN
or MOO or MER or VEN were prominent, I had a look at 56,000 data in
139
categories to see who else had it, and found that the Astrodatabank
categories of "Mystical experience" came 1st and "Mystical came 3rd
out of

Mar-Sat aspects for 3646 scientists

2009-08-21T13:07:29Z

Hi All,

If we look at the 3646 Gauquelin data for the scientists who were born
during the 124 year period of the dataset from 1794 to 1918 it is easy
to see that people *consistently* gravitated towards becoming
scientists at 25% above the average rate if they had MAR sqr SAT <
11.25 degs and consistently avoided becoming scientists if they had

Moon in Pisces for scientists

2009-08-21T08:25:05Z

Hi All,

The Gauquelin data for the 3646 scientists who were born over a 124
year period from 1794 to 1918 shows that people were always more
likely to become scientists if they had Moon in Pisces than in any
other moon sign.

Let's put it this way - if some alert astrologer had noticed the trend

Mars Effect for TV personalities

2009-06-13T01:05:25Z

Hi All,

I don't know what to make of some of the Gauquelin observations after
processing a lot more data recently, but for those who have any
interest in the 'Mars Effect' (in its original sense as it related to
the category of Sportsmen) there is something new to keep an eye on,
and it doesn't require any searching for famous sportsmen or women or

Mars in 10th house Placidus (re-print)

2009-04-29T08:21:17Z

[Repeated a/c time-out of old post]

~>Go, Ray! Keep on opening our eyes.

~>Axel

[UPDATE]

Thanks for taking the time to reply, Axel.
I asked a couple of others who visit this group why they haven't been
writing anything, and it turned out that they all had broken fingers,
but I'm starting to wonder if the real reason is that they don't feel

Mars in 10th house Placidus - who has it most?

2008-12-12T18:43:08Z

Hi All,

The computer did this - I didn't.

It found in my database of 37,000 timed charts from Astrodatabank and
some of the Gauquelin data collection that an interest in Music
featured overwhelmingly amongst the highest scores in the 100
categories (percentage wise).

I suppose if there was no such thing as astrology, we'd have to start

You need the right Diurnal MC to be U.S. President

2008-11-04T17:00:28Z

Hi All,

I was just shoveling some more data through Murphy's Astrological
Engine and noticed that it's pretty much a waste of time standing for
the Presidency unless you have your diurnal MC in the right place
because there has been only one nominee in over a century who has
succeeded without it - George Bush Snr (if his birth time is to be

This group and 93 astrologers

2008-09-09T15:50:30Z

Ray, I wanted to bump up the thread on the 93 eminent astrologers but
the "Reply" button seems to vanish from all threads after 20 or 21
days. Is this a setting you can change? In some forums a thread can
lie dormant for a couple of years and suddenly become hot again. Also
we are a very small group, so there is not the kind of traffic that

Vastu is a Vedic Science

2008-09-03T12:00:17Z

Dear friend,
Namastey!

In fact, you believe or not, but obviously, you experience tremendous
peace and solace of mind in a certain building, whereas, at the same
time, the atmosphere prevailing in another building compels you to
leave that place, as you feel suffocated, due to unfavourable.
environment. The fundamental reason behind it is ‘Vastushastra’. You

Text analysis of astrology books

2008-08-26T03:47:44Z

Hi All,

Now that so many old books have been converted to text or PDF files,
I've made a small program that might eventually be of some use for
establishing who might have published certain astrological words or
terms first.

It's a simple text analysis program that reads any text file and
counts each word and the number of times it was used. The results are

Astrology Software Shop closed down

2008-08-22T01:13:55Z

Astrology Software Shop closed down
[link]

Ray

Sun partners

2008-08-16T01:28:52Z

Hi Ray!

Deeply sorry to have been neglecting your group. I guess we don't yet
have the critical mass that keeps things going.

Could you explain the SUN PARTNERS.gif file you last posted? I presume
it's something like male columns vs female rows, but I can't quite
believe what I think I'm seeing.

Re: Placidian and Gauquelin sectors

2008-04-22T15:57:24Z

RM: I think posts can only be removed by the authors unless Google
needs to intervene.
It seems that if we go to any of our own posts and click on the line
"more options" at the right side of the text, it will allow us to
remove our own posts.
If we have posts on Google that were not entered via a Google group

Politicians with MAR in LEO + ARI

2008-04-21T09:02:33Z

Hi All,

This is the 7th graph in a series that shows the consistency of two
astrological factors.

Data is for Astrodatabank Politicians who had Mars in Leo or Aries.

The hordes of astrology researchers who noticed the peak for Mars in
Leo for U.S. Presidents might be pleased to see this.

Texas murderers Venus in Scorpio or Libra

2008-04-21T01:22:17Z

Hi All,

This is the 6th graph in a series that shows the consistency of two
astrological factors.

Data is for the Texas Murderers who were executed who had Venus in
Scorpio or Libra.

[Graph has been uploaded to the Files section of this Google group]
[link]

More Gemini alcoholics than Libra in the Gauquelin data

2008-04-21T00:07:40Z

Hi All,

This is the 5th graph in a series that shows the consistency of Sun
signs in relation to each other.

Data is for the Gauquelin Alcoholics in the signs Libra and Gemini

[Graph has been uploaded to the Files section of this Google group]
[link]

Gauquelin scientists - Pisces strong, Sag weak

2008-04-19T10:19:19Z

Hi All,

This is the 3rd graph in a series which shows consistent differences
between Sun signs.

This one is for the Gauquelin scientists and it shows how Pisces
people gravitated towards a career in science a lot more than
Sagittarians did, in the time-frame of 1796 -- 1913.

[Graph uploaded to the Files section of this Google group]

Aquarians become astrologers more than Taureans

2008-04-19T08:26:50Z

Hi All,

Continuing with a series of graphs that show consistent trends:

Astrodatabank's birth data for astrologers shows that Aquarians have
gravitated towards astrology as a career or serious hobby more than
Taureans have, for many years.

[See the progressive graph in the Files section]

Virgos play basketball more than Taurus

2008-04-19T05:17:51Z

Hi All,

If people who are born under the sign of Taurus and Virgo have equal
access to the sport of Basketball, then those with Sun in Virgo elect
to play that sport at a much higher rate than the Sun in Taurus
people.

See the attached progressive-graph in date order for the 502 people
listed in Astrodatabank Version 3 who were born in either of those

Moon in 7th house Placidus = Long life

2008-04-08T20:37:15Z

Hi All,

Continuing with the surveys: The database now has 100 categories for
37,935 people.

[Moon in Seventh House Placidus]

The strongest scoring category by far, out of the 100 that are being
used was for the Astrodatabank category of "Long life > 80 years".
This category scored 147.5% of the average rate and the Chi square

Jupiter in 1st house Placidus = Abuse alcohol

2008-04-07T22:58:41Z

Hi All,

Continuing the search for "Who's got the astrological factor"

[JUP in 1ST HOUSE]

The database of timed charts now has 80 categories of occupations and
traits with 31,064 people.

When a search was done for Jupiter in the first house, Placidus, the
leading category was "Abuse alcohol". with 52 out of 354 having that

Mercury in 1st house Placidus = Journalists

2008-04-07T22:41:31Z

Hi All,

Continuing the search for "Who's got the astrological factor"

The database of timed charts now has 80 categories of occupations and
traits with 31,064 people.

When a search was done for Mercury in the first house, Placidus, there
was only one clear leader -- "Gauquelin Journalists" with 88 out of

Neptune in the 1st house Placidus = Musicians

2008-04-07T05:20:57Z

Hi All,

After processing the data in the expanded database of timed births,
now containing 28,901 people in 70 categories it looks like Neptune in
the first house (Placidus) can be equated with Musicians by non-
astrologers. The Gauquelin data for musicians beats the other 69
categories hands-down with a score of 143% of the expected rate and

Middle decan MCs

2008-04-06T14:15:46Z

Ray,

Thanks for posting the middle-decan MC data - most interesting and
useful!

I notice this group is not closed: I can read everything even when I'm
not signed in. Does this mean I can use the data in discussions on
other online forums, and give out the URL of the files you have
posted?

JUP con or opp ASC with 10 deg orb

2008-04-05T20:06:13Z

Hi All,

In the "60 category survey of timed births" mentioned earlier, the
strongest score for JUP con or opp ASC (+/- 10 degs) went to the
Astrodatabank category of "Abuse alcohol". Those people scored 153.7%
of the average with 62 out of a total of 354 (17.5%) having that
aspect instead of the expected number of 40.2. The Chi squared result

Gauquelin 'Military men' - Germany

2008-04-05T19:47:32Z

Hi All,

While looking through the newly expanded database of timed births (60
categories and 26,802 subjects to date) I noticed that the German
'Military men' in the Gauquelin data had an 'aversion' to becoming a
military officer if they had SAT con or opp ASC (+/- 10 degs). It was
the strongest Chi squared score in the data and the only one that

Neptune in 1st Gauquelin sector (of 12)

2008-03-28T15:31:03Z

Hi All,

Those who are familiar with some of the Gauquelin work in relation to
natal planets in sectors, might find this interesting:

I just did a survey with all the Gauquelin data I have for various
occupations and traits (22,611 data) and noticed that Neptune in the
1ST sector (of 12) produced a very interesting result that hasn't been

Fwd: Apogee and perigee ephemerides

2008-02-28T17:40:00Z

Dear Ray,
Chris Mitchell of Bristol astrology suggested I contact you after I sent him this email. I would be very grateful for any help or suggestions you may be able to offer.
So far I have been studying the Gauquelin database and stumbled across what looks like evidence that the tidal effects of the moon influence birth rates, (there are good geophysical reasons why this might be true, so potentially this is an exciting finding) and one thing I need to do is look at the data coording to the elongation or phase of the moon from its perigee or apogee, but the program I use Jigsaw 2 lacks this factor in their ephemeris.

The cat is out of the bag for Earth signs

2008-02-26T17:49:48Z

Hi All,

This is the sort of message that really needs a bit of fanfare, but
maybe that can come later when more information comes to light.

It's about this ongoing survey I'm doing that I've mentioned in recent
threads -- where an astrological factor is randomly selected and then
a large database is filtered to see what occupations, hobbies or

Think of an astro- factor - and find who's got it

2008-02-24T20:40:37Z

Hi All,

During the last week I've been making and testing a new program so
that we can select any astrological factor and then see who has it.
One major thing it will do, is help us to see if certain astrological
factors are more or less common in various occupations.

So far the database has in it 30,000 people and 50 categories - with a

Research to keep astrologers happy :-)

2008-02-16T14:00:40Z

Hi All,

This is the beginning of a project which will enable us to see what's
in the data in an entirely new way. I've started with only a dozen
categories but I think you would agree that the table below is telling
a story.

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Why 5% above expected is no good for Sun signs

2008-02-15T04:01:00Z

Hi All,

In another thread somewhere it was mentioned that we have to be very
careful about our control groups because a small percentage above the
expected score could easily be caused by a natural variation (or
something along those lines).

I cannot see the post at the moment but I've been meaning to say that

Comparing Astrodatabank Suns with Control group

2008-02-15T02:12:08Z

Hi All,

I've just done a comparison between Astrodatabank's Sun sign
distribution for the 20th century and a Jigsaw Control group - which
used the same number of Suns per year with random dates.

There were 22,792 samples in each group.

I've pasted the results here with commas in case anyone wants to drop

Getting everyone's research software in the loop

2008-02-14T00:28:35Z

Hi All,

In another thread about a week ago John was saying:

RM: Here's a start. It's a single page PDF file of a diagram that
shows how many astrology and research programs all hook up together.

It's not complete by any means but it should give most astrologers a
few ideas about how they can share or translate data files, no matter

Assassination transits

2008-02-12T15:10:32Z

Hi All,

I've started to look at the assassinations listed in Wikipedia
[link]

The first 110 cases show that assassins tend to keep right away from
you if the transiting SUN is anywhere near your natal MARS. More than
twice as many people in this dataset were assassinated with tran SUN >

Test survey of sports people in Astrodatabank

2008-02-11T23:00:30Z

Hi All,

Further to a discussion on another thread where Ken alerted
me (and perhaps others here) about the need to assess our
observations more realistically:

Here are some figures for a quick survey for sports people in
Astrodatabank version 3.

(1) Astrodatabank was filtered to extract all birth data for all males

Astrodatabank Events for research

2008-02-10T16:24:27Z

Hi All,

Here is the list of events that the Astrodatabank program uses:

CRIME EVENTS
Arrest
Trial Dates
Assault/battery Perpetration
Assault/battery Victimization
Incest Perpetration
Incest Victimization
Financial Crime Perpetration
Financial Crime Victimization
Homicide Perpetration

Generating control groups for partners

2008-02-09T16:00:06Z

Hi All,

For years I've been unable to generate control groups for married
couples because random data or shuffled data for birth dates is not
suitable because it provides impossible age differences. For example
a male born in 1800 may be matched with a female born in 1980.

I've often wondered about doing it this way:

View graphs on this site by GRID

2008-02-09T08:36:13Z

Hi All,

For those readers who are not visiting this Google group's website who
want to re-visit a post that had a graphic included - here is the link
for all the files:

[link]

To view the graphics instead of the list - select "Grid"

Geo & Helio comparison for 375 executions

2008-02-08T12:08:45Z

Hi All,

The graphs below shows an interesting thing to keep in mind when
dealing with Heliocentric aspects involving the Sun (or Earth).

The graphs are for transits of Sun to natal Uranus and Earth to
Uranus for 375 prisoners who were executed by the state of Texas.
The first graph is Geocentric and the second is Heliocentric.

A case for Geocentric over Heliocentric?

2008-02-06T10:04:07Z

Hi All,

About 15 years ago I had collected 406 of my own event dates for
rectification research. The dates were not selected for any other
reason other than they were "important on the day" and even though I
felt that a large proportion of them would correspond only with minor
transits, I didn't know which ones they were. At that time I was not

Temporary baseline for birth times

2008-02-06T09:13:58Z

Hi All,

When we are doing astrology research we often generate control groups
so we can compare our findings with them. When we do that we usually
use either random birth times or the original birth times that have
been shuffled so that they go with different birth dates.

It's a bit of a toss-up as to which method is best because random

Child's MOO con mat Grandmother's MAR

2008-02-06T07:32:40Z

Hi All,

Continuing on from the thread about a child's MOO being opposite the
mother's MAR at 121% of the expected rate with a 3 deg orb -- or 111%
with a 9 deg orb:

The graph below shows how the children in the same large genealogy
files had their MOO conjunct their maternal grandmother's MAR -- 120%

SU/MO opposite SU/MO for partners

2008-02-05T14:35:44Z

Hi All,

Perhaps that ancient astrologer who mentioned the first midpoint many
centuries ago (Sun/Moon) knew what he was talking about.

Here's an observation from of a survey of 2606 random couples (5212
people) listed in the Gauquelin data: They had Sun/Moon midpoint
opposition Sun/Moon midpoint with a very wide 6 degree orb at 130% of

Suggested research datafile format

2008-02-05T12:50:32Z

Hi All,

The ideal format for storing astrology data (birth, events, traits
etc) seems to be the one used by Astrodatabank but it cannot be used
by everyone because you need to own the expensive ADB program to use
it, so I'm proposing that we use the Jigsaw2 format for the easy
exchange of data amongst posters for any processing that is required

Programming tricks with Astrodatabank

2008-02-05T12:05:30Z

Hi All,

If any programmers here wanted to browse through their copy of
Astrodatabank and click on interesting names and instantly have that
person's birth data processed and displayed in their own special
program, there's an easy way to do it on the fly:

(1) Give your program (or an alias of it) the name of a legitimate