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I mean there was Anne Franke's family and the Dutch family. Poor people not
heard from again, not to mention more Poles than Jews in Poland. And most
for the same reason, not having the ruthlessness to condemn and not help or
sympathize with Jews.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4138523842550891901#0h53m09s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
>>>> Mr Mitchell told a joke on his new Radio 4 show, The Unbelievable
>>>> Truth, where he said: "There is absolutely no truth in the rumour that
>>>> the last line in Anne Frank's diary reads: 'Today is my birthday and my
>>>> dad bought me a drum kit.'"
>>>> Almost 50 complaints were received by the BBC about the "insensitive"
>>>> nature of the joke.
so 50 jews as usual, you wont get a peep out of nonjews no matter what you
do?
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21878.htm
Israeli warlord vows face-off with Iran:
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=84344§ionid=351020104
Keep in mind that the 'A Clean Break' (war for Israel) agenda was
written for Netanyahu (access the 'A Clean Break' link at the upper
right of
http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM)
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm
A look at these healthy happy jews will make you wonder just a little more
about the hardship claims.
http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/letters/2003oct_nbr01.htm
This is a contribution to your inquiry about the label: "holocaust-denial".
First of all there was NO holocaust, other than those taking place in every
country that is at war.
The incarceration of "enemies of the state" is a world-wide practice. The
primary question here is; what constitutes a holocaust? Camps, depravation,
imprisonment, harsh treatment, executions, hunger etc.?
Those conditions exist in all camps, in all nations, under all regimes.
Remember Andersonville, Manzanar, the Gulags, the British camps in Africa,
the American death-camps in Germany, they all constitute a "holocaust" if
viewed through the lenses of Jewish "holocaust-sufferers".
Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters
in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent
witnesses.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html
There are other indications as well that the theory of mass destruction of
the Hungarian Jews is incorrect: the witnesses to this destruction
unanimously claim that during these alleged mass exterminations the limited
capacity of the Birkenau crematoria necessitated the excavation of enormous
pits, in which the bodies were burned. Dark clouds of smoke, they claim,
darkened the sky over Birkenau during this procedure. Fortunately (or
unfortunately, depending on one's perspective) the aerial reconnaissance
photographs taken by the Allies during this time prove that in the Birkenau
camp, which was not obscured by clouds of smoke when the pictures were
taken, there were neither open fires, nor giant pits, nor smoke activity on
any scale large or small, nor piles of dead bodies, nor great supplies of
firewood, nor anything else of the sort.[45] The Polish Historical Society
concludes that in light of this evidence the number of victims in Auschwitz
must be reduced by another 400,000 plus 74,000 (Polish Jews from the
liquidated ghetto Lodz, who are also claimed to have been gassed around this
time), leaving some 500,000 victims for Auschwitz.[46]
Even allegedly probative documents of the Nuremberg Tribunal cannot change
this, since such documents are by no means always genuine, or true, and only
ever provide evidence for deportations which are not disputed here in the
first place - they never document an extermination. The reader is reminded
of the example of Dachau, the concentration camp where the IMT alleged that
hundreds of thousands were gassed, a claim which in the end turned out to be
nothing more substantial than an atrocity propaganda lie.[47] We shall come
across another case of dubious IMT documents in the discussion of the Soviet
Union.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735
http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm
Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html
Jews will once again subject Robert Faurisson (aged 78) to a trial for
"holocaust denial." The French judicial police served Faurisson a summons
demanding that he appear in court this Thursday (24 Jan 08). Faurisson is
charged with attending the December 11, 2006 conference in Iran titled,
"Review of the Holocaust: Global Vision."
This will be the fifteenth time that Jews have hauled Faurisson into court.
Jews have already frozen his bank account, while court officials have
repeatedly visited his home, threatening him and his wife with seizure of
their furniture to pay for financial "damages" caused by his "heretical"
remarks.
Faurisson is arguably the most thorough of all examiners of the holo-hoax.
Ernst Zündel, Gemar Rudolph and others are in prison, but Jews consider
Faurisson enemy #1, because of the meticulousness of his work. And since the
holo-hoax cannot be defended with reason and science, Jews use oppressive
laws and prison sentences to protect it from rational criticism. In many
cases they use extreme violence, as you will see later in this post.
Fortunately the Goyim are too cowardly to resist Jewish terrorism.
At the Iran conference, Faurisson said that for the past 32 years, he has
been waiting for someone to show him one of the chambers where Jews where
supposedly gassed during the holo-hoax.
In July 2006, a Paris court convicted Faurisson of "holocaust denial"
because of remarks made by Faurisson on the Sahar 1 Iranian satellite
channel in February 2005. Faurisson was given a three-month suspended prison
term, and was also fined 7,500 euros.
The former Prime Minister of France, Dominique de Villepin, said, "We [the
French people] are in a democracy. Everyone has the right to express his
views freely."
Therefore all defamatory remarks against Muslims or Islam are protected as
"free speech."
However, any questioning of the holo-hoax or Jewish atrocities is illegal.
The Gayssot Act of 1990 - initiated by President Jaques Chirac -- prohibits
any questioning or examination of the holo-hoax.
Faurisson's specialty is examining documents and manuscripts. In 1991 he was
fired from his university post for questioning the holo-hoax. He was charged
with violating the Gayssot Act, (Loi Gayssot) passed on 13 July 1990 that
makes it illegal in France to question the holo-hoax. The law was proposed
by the communist deputy Jean-Claude Gayssot, and is one of several European
laws that make it illegal to examine the holo-hoax.
Its first article states that "any discrimination founded on the membership
or non-membership to an ethnic group, a nation, a race or a religion is
prohibited."
Discrimination against Muslims, of course, is permissible.
When Faurisson was terminated at the university, he appealed to the ICCPRHRC
(International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and Human Rights
Committee). This is a UN group that polices literature for any questioning
of the holo-hoax. (It is not to be confused with the more high-profile
Commission on Human Rights, a Charter-based mechanism, or its replacement,
the Human Rights Council, which of course is controlled by Jews.)
http://www.von-waldenburg.com/reviews.html
A person who lived in Germany during the war.
http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/57JNX3
Frederich Born leader of the ICRC in Hungary and honored by the jews.
Of course that strengthens the credibility of the Yad Vashem and who can
say anything about a man being honored and who probably deserved the hnor.
Most of their purchases of
relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.
Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jews
avoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continued
throughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey.
But they were living in the best part of Europe as far as food was
concerned. And the terrible reflects the difficulties of keeping people in
camps and all the terribles do not describe genocide, or even conditions as
bad as Israel today.
And the fact that some leaders might have stretched the truth about what
they thought Hitler said or thought about killing of jews, there is no proof
of genocide as a policy and no treatment as there is in Israel today. Of
attacking people with planes, helicopters, and tanks. As happens in Israel
on a daily basis.
The Toben case today:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/oct/17/germany-australia
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Among the fooled, at least the partially fooled, was Berenbaum, former
director of the United States Holocaust Research Institute at the U.S.
Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Berenbaum had been asked to read
the manuscript by film producer Harris Salomon, who still plans an
adaptation of the book.
Berenbaum's tentative support - "Crazier things have happened," he told
The
Associated Press last fall - was cited by the publisher as it initially
defended the book. Berenbaum now says he saw factual errors, including
Rosenblat's description of Theresienstadt, the camp from which he was
eventually liberated, but didn't think of challenging the love story.
"There's a limit to what I can verify, because I was not there," he says.
"I
can verify the general historical narrative, but in my research I rely
upon
the survivors to present the specifics of their existence with integrity.
When they don't, they destroy so much and they ruin so much, and that's
terrible."
"I was burned," he added. "And I have to read books more skeptically
because
I was burned."
Anger, sadness over fabricated Holocaust story
By HILLEL ITALIE, AP National Writer - Sun Dec 28, 1:09 pm ET
NEW YORK - It's the latest story that touched, and betrayed, the world.
"Herman Rosenblat and his wife are the most gentle, loving, beautiful
people," literary agent Andrea Hurst said Sunday, anguishing over why
she,
and so many others, were taken by Rosenblat's story of love born on
opposite
sides of a barbed-wire fence at a concentration camp.
"I question why I never questioned it. I believed it; it was an
incredible,
hope-filled story."
On Saturday, Berkley Books canceled Rosenblat's memoir, "Angel at the
Fence." Rosenblat acknowledged that he and his wife did not meet, as they
had said for years, at a sub-camp of Buchenwald, where she allegedly
sneaked
him apples and bread. The book was supposed to come out in February.
Rosenblat, 79, has been married to the former Roma Radzicky for 50 years,
since meeting her on a blind date in New York. In a statement issued
Saturday through his agent, he described himself as an advocate of love
and
tolerance who falsified his past to better spread his message.
"I wanted to bring happiness to people," said Rosenblat, who now lives in
the Miami area. "I brought hope to a lot of people. My motivation was to
make good in this world."
Rosenblat's believers included not only his agent and his publisher, but
Oprah Winfrey, film producers, journalists, family members and strangers
who
ignored, or didn't know about, the warnings from scholars that his story
didn't make sense.
Other Holocaust memoirists have devised greater fantasies. Misha
Defonseca,
author of "Misha: A Memoire of the Holocaust Years," pretended she was a
Jewish girl who lived with wolves during the war, when she was actually a
non-Jew who lived, without wolves, in Belgium.
Historical records prove Rosenblat was indeed at Buchenwald and other
camps.
"How sad that he felt he had to embellish a life of surviving the
Holocaust
and of being married for half a century," said Holocaust scholar Michael
Berenbaum.
The damage is broad. Publishing, the most trusting of industries, has
again
been burned by a memoir that fact-checking might have prevented. Berkley
is
an imprint of Penguin Group (USA), which in March pulled Margaret B.
Jones'
"Love and Consequences" after the author acknowledged she had invented
her
story of gang life in Los Angeles. Winfrey fell, as she did with James
Frey,
for a narrative of suffering and redemption better suited for television
than for history.
The damage is deep. Scholars and other skeptics as well as fellow
survivors
fear that Rosenblat's fabrications will only encourage doubts about the
Holocaust.
"I am very worried because many of us speak to thousands of student each
year," says Sidney Finkel, a longtime friend of Rosenblat's and a fellow
survivor. "We go before audiences. We tell them a story and now some
people
will question what I experienced."
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And at the bottom see the person who profited from lies and is behind the
false story that is used to put our truth seeking teachers in jail.
These teachers are no more than the plumber Joe's of the acadenic world
being illtreated because of part of out population who want to support the
lies because of the huge incomes derived from these lies.
These sites below show up the huge lies and why.
Libraries, brothels, swimming??IN AUSWICHTZ???
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4138523842550891901#0h53m09s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk
Next we have the German records where no mention of killing of jews has been
found.In fact the documents like this month disprove the huge distortions
and exaggerations made by the jewish contingent.
And as in the country today the numbers actually involved considering that
millions fought with and served Germany against what was jews against their
country of residence.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/zionism/news.php?q=11...
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=888061
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1966
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/130513
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/section_second_world... of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activitiesduring the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.You will find thousands of jewish funded museums amd so calleduniversitiesthat supposedly have evidence , also the reports themselves havebeen contaminated by jewish academics and supporters continual injectionsthat the Red Cross did not see.The Red Cross is not political or historical so keptrecords of it's actions,and if astrocities occurred they recorded them just as they do today.And the only evidence offered by holocaust supporters is the usual suspectexaggerations from reparation seeking jews castigated by honest honest jewsfor this horrible use of what suffering there was during this period.Despite the suffering of the jews it was not as much as Europeans as a wholesuffered with over 5 million imprisoned, a much hight number than the realnumber of jews . And free for anyone to investigate without fear ofimprisonment.Not to mention the disrupted lives of Europeans when their homes and townsbecame the battlefields of WW2.To emphasize the determined efforts of the jews to stay in the limelight bypushing all other victims to the back while they bask in the limelight , ina lot of cases undeservedly so. http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Crosses/Crosses.htmlAs an example the Polish who is the one country who had more (3 million -figures you can examine without fear of harassment) wanted to put up crossesfor victims , who were in there mostly for helping and supporting jews inPoland. Were castigated and criticised by jewish groups claiming theremembrances should only be for their victims, and not be over shadowed byChristian victims.http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Crosses/Crosses.htmlhttp://www.h... that comes out clearly, whatever the reason that the jews were held incamps, there was great co operation by the jews themselves, this forced themto find excuses for their behavior, and easiest was lying about thecruelties of the Germans that caused this co operation. Rather falls downwhen there is no gassing and if camps were simply holding camps.As their own leaders said.The Jewish ghetto police always had the option, she said, of "throwing offtheir uniforms and joining the rest of us" - a point that Yitzak Zuckerman,a leader of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, made in his memoir.http://www.theexperiment.org/articles.php?news_id=2139There is not a shred of evidence, for example, that "a gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed." (See "The Second Leuchter Report" by American gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter in The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1990.) There is likewise no proof that "mentally and physically handicapped people were killed" by gas at any of the four "institutions" Wiesenthal mentions. This US Army photo was taken at Dachau on April 30, 1945, one day after the camp's capture. It shows a GI standing in front of a door marked with a skull and crossbones and the words "Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do not open!" According to the official caption, "these chambers were used by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau concentration camp." In fact, this is a small disinfection gas chamber used for delousing clothes. It was never used to kill people. For several decades, this photo has been widely reproduced to help keep alive the notorious Dachau "gas chamber" myth. (US Army photo SC 206194.)Besides the condensation below you can exam the various reviews of the REDCROSS covering WW2 during the time of the jews claimed astrocities commitedby the Germans.Inmates ReleasedMore than 200,000 prisoners were transferred from Auschwitz to other camps,and about 8,000 were in the camp when it was liberated by Soviet forces. Inaddition, about 1,500 prisoners who had served their sentences werereleased, and returned to their home countries. [16] If Auschwitz hadactually been a top secret extermination center, would the Germans havereleased inmates who "knew" what was happening there?Himmler Orders Death Rate Reducedhttp://www.ihr.org/books/hoggan/21.htmlhttp://www.outlawjournalism.co... http://www.icrc.ch/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList418/359CC4EF8A1E5C72C1... little hard to obtain a report that is not heavily influenced by jewishpressure to includE holocaust AS THEY WOULD LIKE ALL TO SEE IT..So you will notice that holocaust is not denied just a quiet it was badetc.THE JEWS AND THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS:A FACTUAL APPRAISAL BY THE RED CROSS.There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World WarTwo and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which isalmost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Reportof the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activitiesduring the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral sourceincorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works:Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans lescamps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), andInter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War(Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet,explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in thetradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, andherein lies its great value.The ICRC successfully applied the 1929 Geneva military convention inorder to gain access to civilian internees held in Central and WesternEurope by the Germany authorities. By contrast, the ICRC was unable togain any access to the Soviet Union, which had failed to ratify theConvention. The millions of civilian and military internees held inthe USSR, whose conditions were known to be by far the worst, werecompletely cut off from any international contact or supervision.The Red Cross Report is of value in that it first clarifies thelegitimate circumstances under which Jews were detained inconcentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing the twocategories of civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the secondtype as "Civilians deported on administrative grounds (in German,"Schutzhäftlinge"), who were arrested for political or racial motivesbecause their presence was considered a danger to the State or theoccupation forces" (Vol. 111, p. 73). These persons, it continues,"were placed on the same footing as persons arrested or imprisonedunder common law for security reasons." (P.74).The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permitsupervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating tosecurity, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained importantconcessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute foodparcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and"from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all othercamps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon establishedcontact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programmewhich continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters ofthanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.Red Cross Recipients Were JewsThe Report states that "As many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily.From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with atotal weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps"(Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food, these contained clothing andpharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent to Dachau, Buchenwald,Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Flossenburg,Landsberg-am-Lech, Flöha, Ravensbrück, Hamburg-Neuengamme, Mauthausen,Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, to camps near Vienna and inCentral and Southern Germany. The principal recipients were Belgians,Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Poles and stateless Jews"(Vol. III, p. 83).In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transferand distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty millionSwiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout theworld, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee ofNew York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted bythe German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the Americanentry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vastrelief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans butfrom the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases ofrelief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.The ICRC had special praise for the liberal conditions which prevailedat Theresienstadt up to the time of their last visits there in April1945. This camp, "where there were about 40,000 Jews deported fromvarious countries was a relatively privileged ghetto" (Vol. III, p.75). According to the Report, "'The Committee's delegates were able tovisit the camp at Theresienstadt (Terezin) which was used exclusivelyfor Jews and was governed by special conditions. From informationgathered by the Committee, this camp had been started as an experimentby certain leaders of the Reich ... These men wished to give the Jewsthe means of setting up a communal life in a town under their ownadministration and possessing almost complete autonomy. . . twodelegates were able to visit the camp on April 6th, 1945. Theyconfirmed the favourable impression gained on the first visit" (Vol.I, p . 642).The ICRC also had praise for the regime of Ion Antonescu of FascistRumania where the Committee was able to extend special relief to183,000 Rumanian Jews until the time of the Soviet occupation. The aidthen ceased, and the ICRC complained bitterly that it never succeeded"in sending anything whatsoever to Russia" (Vol. II, p. 62). The samesituation applied to many of the German camps after their "liberation"by the Russians. The ICRC received a voluminous flow of mail fromAuschwitz until the period of the Soviet occupation, when many of theinternees were evacuated westward. But the efforts of the Red Cross tosend relief to internees remaining at Auschwitz under Soviet controlwere futile. However, food parcels continued to be sent to formerAuschwitz inmates transferred west to such camps as Buchenwald andOranienburg.No Evidence Of GenocideOne of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that itclarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred inthe camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaoticcondition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of thewar, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimedan increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, theGerman Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ...In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC andGeneral of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results.Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegatewas authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the diresituation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicitin stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Alliedbombing of German transportation, and in the interests of internedJews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarousaerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impendingcollapse of the German transportation system, declaring thatstarvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becominginevitable.In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it isimportant to stress that the delegates of the International Red Crossfound no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of adeliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages theReport does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admitsthat Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours andprivations, but its complete silence on the subject of plannedextermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like theVatican representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross founditself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of genocidewhich had become the order of the day. So far as the genuine mortalityrate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jewishdoctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the easternfront, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff) - Incidentally, it isfrequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gaschambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Reportmakes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, butinstallations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by thedelegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made lessprimitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).Not All Were InternedVolume III of the Red Cross Report, Chapter 3 (I. Jewish CivilianPopulation) deals with the "aid given to the Jewish section of thefree population," and this chapter makes it quite plain that by nomeans all of the European Jews were placed in internment camps, butremained, subject to certain restrictions, as part of the freecivilian population. This conflicts directly with the "thoroughness"of the supposed "extermination programme", and with the claim in theforged Höss memoirs that Eichmann was obsessed with seizing "everysingle Jew he could lay his hands on."In Slovakia, for example, where Eichmann's assistant Dieter Wislicenywas in charge, the Report states that "A large proportion of theJewish minority had permission to stay in the country, and at certainperiods Slovakia was looked upon as a comparative haven of refuge forJews, especially for those coming from Poland. Those who remained inSlovakia seem to have been in comparative safety until the end ofAugust 1944, when a rising against the German forces took place. Whileit is true that the law of May 15th, 1942 had brought about theinternment of several thousand Jews, these people were held in campswhere the conditions of food and lodging were tolerable, and where theinternees were allowed to do paid work on terms almost equal to thoseof the free labour market" (Vol. I, p. 646).Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jewsavoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continuedthroughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey.Ironically, post-war Jewish emigration from German-occupiedterritories was also facilitated by the Reich, as in the case of thePolish Jews who had escaped to France before its occupation. "The Jewsfrom Poland who, whilst in France, had obtained entrance permits tothe United States were held to be American citizens by the Germanoccupying authorities, who further agreed to recognize the validity ofabout three thousand passports issued to Jews by the consulates ofSouth American countries" (Vol. I, p. 645).As future U.S. citizens, these Jews were held at the Vittel camp insouthern France for American aliens. The emigration of European Jewsfrom Hungary in particular proceeded during the war unhindered by theGerman authorities. "Until March 1944," says the. Red Cross Report,"Jews who had the privilege of visas for Palestine were free to leaveHungary" (Vol. I, p. 648). Even after the replacement of the HorthyGovernment in 1944 (following its attempted armistice with the SovietUnion) with a government more dependent on German authority, theemigration of Jews continued.The Committee secured the pledges of both Britain and the UnitedStates "to give support by every means to the emigration of Jews fromHungary," and from the U.S. Government the ICRC received a messagestating that "The Government of the United States ... now specificallyrepeats its assurance that arrangements will be made by it for thecare of all Jews who in the present circumstances are allowed toleave" (Vol. I, p . 649).Biedermann agreed that in the nineteen instances that "Did Six MillionReally Die?" quoted from the Report of the International Committee ofthe Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War and InterArma Caritas (this includes the above material), it did so accurately.A quote from Charles Biedermann (a delegate of the InternationalCommittee of the Red Cross and Director of the Red Cross'International Tracing Service) under oath at the Zündel Trial(February 9, 10, 11 and 12, 1988).http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2735http://www.worldca... ACTUALLY -- AND CONTRARY TO HIS HIGHLY FLATTERING PUBLIC IMAGE -- THE RENOWNED "NAZI HUNTER" HAS A WELL-DOCUMENTED BUT LITTLE-KNOWN RECORD OF DECEIT, MENDACITY AND PREVARICATION. SOME HIGHLIGHTS: Wiesenthal repeatedly lied about his alleged role in locating Adolf Eichmann, was consistently wrong about Josef Mengele, and falsely accused Polish-American Frank Walus of having murdered Jews in Poland as a Gestapo official. Wiesenthal has absurdly charged that the Germans exterminated Jews in "electrocution chambers," and that they manufactured bars of soap from the bodies of murdered Jews. His deception about his own wartime activities prompted Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky (himself of Jewish ancestry) to accuse the "Nazi hunter" of having collaborated with his wartime oppressors. (For details about Wiesenthal's record, see: M. Weber, "Simon Wiesenthal: Bogus Nazi Hunter," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1989-90.) THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992 Wannsee's importance rejected London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final Solution." According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and "little of what was said there was executed in detail." "The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at." "I have never held myself out to be a Holocaust expert, nor have I written books about what is now called the Holocaust." "I have done my best to prepare the case that follows, but I respectfully submit that I do not have any duty to become an expert on the Holocaust, my Lord." "I have never claimed to be a Holocaust historian. As I have said, I have no written no book about the Holocaust. I have written no article about it. If I have spoken about it, it is usually because somebody has asked me a question, I have been questioned about it. On such occasions I have emphasised my lack of expertise and I have expatiated only upon those areas with which I am familiar." http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/transcripts/day002.htm: "Now, you heard me say in my opening statement, Mr Rampton, that I am not an expert on the Holocaust. What I would now say would be a figure without any value whatsoever." "Q. [Rampton] What you do you say about Sobibor, Treblinka, Belzec and Chelmno?" "A. [Irving] Nothing at all. I am not an expert." RJ.Winston Churchill wrote a five volume history of World War II and nevermentioned the holocaust. He never mentioned it because he knew that theholocaust was just wartime propaganda and he did not want to sully what hehoped would be the definitive history of the war with propaganda that commonsense alone could refute. I could go on but the evidence I speak of isavailable to The Jubilee readers from many patriotic sources even though itis still widely censored by America's media and libraries.I once considered the battle over the holocaust as a great political trumpcard allowing us to take back the moral high ground on the censorship issuefrom the left. But I see now that it is much more important than that. Theholocaust is qualitatively different than the silly lies nations tell theircitizens to get them so fired up they will send their children to die inforeign wars. The holocaust is not pre-war propaganda. It is post-warpropaganda.Why do we need post World War II propaganda? Because World War II was thegreatest human catastrophe in two thousand years for the Aryan peoples andwe "gentiles" must not be allowed to see the truth. It was more than theslaughter of our racial kinsmen and the destruction of our racial homeland.World War II was the most significant crossroads the Christian nations havefaced since Herman faced the legions of Rome in the forests of Teutonberg2,000 years ago. But Herman won the battle of Teutonberg Wald. The Christianworld lost World War II. We lost because we came to a crossroads and wentthe wrong way.http://www.nafcash.com/Lest you think there must be some truth to the alleged Treblinka holocaust NAFCASH TM is offering a $250,000.00 REWARD For locating JUST ONE of the alleged "HUGE MASS GRAVES" of Treblinka NAFCASH TM presents THE TREBLINKA CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION CHALLENGE TM You must scientifically - forensically prove the grave's EXACT location,its EXACT dimensions and its EXACT volumetric density. The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent of the alleged massmurder. JUST ONE MASS GRAVE! - JUST ONE PERCENT!http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm HOW TO KEEP ACADEMICS QUIET The Real Issue Is Israel's Human Rights Record: A statement by Norman G. Finkelstein upon publication of Beyond Chutzpah Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard University is currently best known for his advocacy of the "most excruciating" torture against terrorist suspects such as a "needle being shoved under the fingernails." The alleged purpose of this torture is to extract a truthful confession but its real consequence, as human rights organizations have pointed out, is to produce whatever statements are necessary to end the suffering.For 15 months Dershowitz has applied a variant of this truth-seeking technique -- less physically painful but no less excruciating -- to prospective publishers of Beyond Chutzpah, which offers a critical examination of Israel's human rights record and Dershowitz's defense of it. Enlisting one of the most powerful law firms in the country after his personal initiatives proved unsuccessful, Dershowitz has repeatedly threatened to bankrupt highly respected publishers with litigation if they didn't cancel publication of my book. He could then proclaim that the cancellation confirmed the "truth" that Beyond Chutzpah didn't meet scholarly standards. Dershowitz justified these blackmail tactics on the ground that Beyond Chutzpah libels him. Yet, when I first began to expose his gross scholarly misconduct, Dershowitz publicly declared at UCLA (on 21 October 2003) that he wouldn't respond with a libel action because he believed "so strongly in the First Amendment and full freedom of speech." Ironically, just as he was threatening my publishers with expensive and time-consuming lawsuits, Dershowitz denounced Holocaust denier David Irving, who had sued Deborah Lipstadt for libel, with these words: "Before Irving lost his case [against Lipstadt], several publishers had refused to issue books critical of Irving, out of fear of his bringing expensive and time-consuming lawsuits. That was a chilling of free speech" (Afterword to Lipstadt's History on Trial; his emphasis). My publisher, University of California Press, was understandably at great pains to fend off a potential lawsuit by Dershowitz; for an academic publisher the associated costs would have been ruinous, to the point of making certain victory meaningless. On occasion our relationship became strained and at one point it appeared as if we had reached an impasse. However, through the skillful mediation of Nation magazine senior editor Roane Carey (who was the freelance editor of Beyond Chutzpah) and others, a satisfactory compromise was reached that protected the interests of both publisher and author, and, most importantly, preserved the integrity of the book. I would like personally to extend my heartfelt thanks to all who supported me and the press during this difficult period."Another Frenchman, Paul Rassinier, a pre-war communist and later asocialist, had been a member of the French Resistance. He was arrested andinterned in concentration camps, among them Buchenwald. In 1948 he publisheda book Crossing the Line, in which he argued that people might have beenkilled in concentration camps, but that the perpetrators had acted on theirown, not on orders from headquarters.AS WITH ABU GRAIB."The saving of the Jews in Europe did not figure at the head of the list ofpriorities of the ruling class. It was the foundation of the State which wasprimordial in their eyes." "The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded thedeportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence in the false information that they were being transferred toKenyermeze.The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died inGerman work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.Most of them died in the last six months of the war from disease and hungercaused by America's bombing of Germany and subsequent destruction of herinfrastructure. There were some atrocities but very few. Few people realizethat the International Red Cross had a field office in Auschwiz from 1942 untilthe end of the war. That office never reported or recorded any atrocities (Several years agointernational Jewry forced the Red Cross to apologize to the Jews -apologize for not seeing something that never happened.)Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situationas far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating thatfood supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of Germantransportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested onMarch 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (InterArma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the GermanForeign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportationsystem, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germanywere becoming inevitable.A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungaryin July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily.She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of "gaschambers" during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassingstories only later. [15]Inmates ReleasedMore than 200,000 prisoners were transferred from Auschwitz to other camps,and about 8,000 were in the camp when it was liberated by Soviet forces. Inaddition, about 1,500 prisoners who had served their sentences werereleased, and returned to their home countries. [16] If Auschwitz hadactually been a top secret extermination center, would the Germans havereleased inmates who "knew" what was happening there?Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced http://www.ifamericansknew.org/http://www.ussliberty.org/"Asgard" <asg...@home.net wrote in messagenews:zZadnTJAIc9c0_DYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com...Ø What a load of emotive old bollocks, bullshit and lies. The narrator states the inmates were "starving' at Bergen Belsen, yet the vast majority of the inmates look positively fat and shiny. He goes on to say those dead, had died of starvation, yet earlier stated they'd not eaten for only 6 days. The images of the dead showed mainly emaciated corpses, nothing like the people still moving around. If they'd died of "starvation", why had the vasst majority of the inmates not suffered the same fate. Why, indeed wasit only the corpses which were emaciated. What I found particularly intersting, was significant incidence ofpetachiae on the bodies of the dead. THIS IS A CLASSIC SIGN OF EPIDEMIC TYPHUS. The documentary was made in 2005, by a yid, and I note they're stillusing the mythical 4million figure for deaths at Auschsitz. Haven't correctedthe script. They also state, quite clearly, there were 6m jewish deaths in camps. No mention of the supposed Einzatzgroupen. The entire documentary is a farcical attempt heighten the victimhoodstatus of yids. Any of the experts like to comment? Keenan? You're an expert oneverything. Gord, likewise. McFey? Got any answers chaps? I look forward to your attempts to shoot this one down.Russian troops marched into Berlin on April 24, 1945, they found 800 Jewsalive and well in Berlin's Jewish hospital.http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/21/newsid_3 560000/3560175.stm51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazishttp://www.wrmea.com/archives/Sept_2004/0409086.html"Topaz" <mars1...@hotmail.com wrote in messagenews:pklr449roj8r6c7ufl47es37l1bef7ahbe@4ax.com... "The orthodox holocaust story can not possibly be defended with rational arguments because its absurdity is overwhelming. We are asked to believe in the fata morgana of a vast slaughter in killing factories which left no traces whatsoever - no documents, no bones, no teeth, no ashes - nothing! We are further asked to believe that the Allies, who had a large network of informers all over Europe and a spy in the German leadership (Admiral Canaris, the head of the German intelligence), did not become aware of this gigantic genocide until the end of the war, for if they had known about the mass murder, they would have acted to stop it. Finally, we are asked to believe that the Jews in Poland, the epicentre of the holocaust, did not know anything about the Auschwitz gas chambers as late as in August 1944, otherwise the Jews from the Lodz ghetto would not have gone to Auschwitz voluntarily - which is precisely what they did, as related by Raul Hilberg in his standard work about the holocaust (Die Vernichtung der europaeischen Juden, p. 543/544). As the Zionist-controlled system of the "Western democracies" is woefully unable to counter the revisionists with arguments, it resorts to censorship and brute force in order to silence the dangerous heretics. And the Jews are gradually transforming the holocaust into a religion. This is a very clever strategy, for as Robert Faurisson aptly remarks, one cannot refute a religion with scientific arguments. Thus, the holocaust museums and holocaust monuments spreading like mushrooms all over America and Europe are really temples of the new religion, whereas professional "holocaust survivors" such as Elie Wiesel are the priests of the new religion. To prove this assertion, we only have to quote Wiesel himself: "The Holocaust is a holy mystery, the secret of which is limited to the circle of the priesthood of survivors" (Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, 1999, p. 211, 212, retranslated from the German). Another high priest of the holocaust cult, Simon Wiesenthal, goes even further: "When each of us comes before the Six Million, we will be asked what we did with our lives... I will say: I did not forget you" (Simon Wiesenthal in Response, Vol. 20, Nr. 1). No critical questions about the holocaust are allowed because they are a blasphemy: They cause immense distress to the eternal victims of persecution, the Jews, and are an attempt to whitewash National Socialism - the most evil ideology of all times which made the holocaust possible! In today's Germany, it is even considered inadmissible to compare the holocaust with the atrocities of communist tyrants such as Stalin or Cambodian dictator Pol Pot because this is regarded as a "relativisation" and "trivialization" of the worst crime in history. French Zionist propagandist Claude Lanzmann, the producer of a long and unspeakably dull film about the holocaust (the title of this film is Shoa, the Hebrew word for "catastrophe", which is often used by Jews as a synonym for "holocaust") makes no effort to conceal that the holocaust cult is to replace Christianity: "If Auschwitz is something other than a horror of history, then Christianity totters in its foundations. Christ is the Son of God, who went to the end of the humanely endurable, where he endured the cruellest suffering. (...) If Auschwitz is true, then there is a human suffering with which that of Christ simply cannot be compared. (...) In this case, Christ is false, and salvation will not come from him. (...) Auschwitz is the refutation of Christ." (Les temps modernes, Paris, December 1993, p. 132, 133.) Nowadays, a large percentage of the Jews do not believe in God any more, but virtually all of them believe in the Six Million. The Zionist leadership cunningly exploits the holocaust to unite the World's Jews by keeping them in a constant state of hysteria and persecution mania, insinuating that only if the Jews stick together will they be able to ban the threat of a new holocaust. It goes without saying that very few Non-Jews are willing to embrace the murky holocaust religion. While the overwhelming majority of people in the West still believe that the official holocaust version is essentially true (even if they suspect that the figures might me somewhat inflated), they are thoroughly fed up with the eternal lamentation about Jewish victims and Jewish suffering. They simply don't want to hear it any more. In Germany, opinion polls showed that a vast majority of the population was against the planned holocaust monument in Berlin (which not a single major party, not a single leading politician and not a single big newspaper dared to oppose). Privately, the politicians are probably as profoundly disgusted with the endless holocaust litany as the rest of the population, but they cannot possibly afford to let the revisionists win because this would shatter the very foundations of the "democratic" system to which they own their careers and their wealth... The ultimate weapon against Zionism and the state of Israel At the end of the year 2000, Israel is a besieged country, but from the military point of view, it is still vastly superior to its neighbours, and it enjoys the unconditional support of the United States. Should any of the Islamic states grow strong enough to seriously threaten Israel, it would most probably be attacked and militarily annihilated by America. Russia is not likely to risk a confrontation with the USA for the sake of the Palestinians. We can certainly admire the bravery of the Palestinians resistance fighters who are willing to sacrifice their lives to liberate their homeland from the alien intruders, but realistically, they have no chance to win. The Palestinians have stones and slings. The Israelis have helicopters and tanks. You can't destroy helicopters and tanks with stones and slings. When fighting one's enemy, one should always look for his weakest spot. The weakest spot of Israel, its Achilles heel, is the holocaust lie to which it owes its existence. The revisionists can give the adversaries of Israel and international Zionism a terrible weapon. It is quite true that many revisionists are by no means guided by political considerations. Some of them - Carlo Mattogno is a good example - are only motivated by intellectual curiosity: They want to ascertain what really happened to the Jews during the Second World War. But even if revisionism is not a political movement, its political implications are tremendous. The revisionists are endeavouring to find out the truth, and truth is the deadliest enemy of Israel and international Jewry. Thus, the revisionists objectively work against Israel and Zionism, even if subjectively their goals are often purely scientific and devoid of any political ambition. This is, of course, the reason why they are persecuted and their books burnt in more and more countries. In view of the total Jewish media control and the ever-growing anti-revisionist repression in many Western countries, it is very difficult indeed to achieve a revisionist breakthrough. We revisionists are facing an uphill struggle which can only partly be explained by our total lack of financial resources. Fortunately the internet, which the Jews are unable to censure, has greatly improved our possibilities to make the results of our research known to the World, but all the same, we should not cherish naive illusions: Not every citizen of the Western world who is informed about the revisionist arguments will automatically become revisionist and anti-Zionist. The average person in the West - and particularly in Germany - has been so thoroughly brainwashed that a sudden exposure to the truth can provoke a nervous breakdown or stomach cramps. I have repeatedly witnessed this myself. Other people would gladly accept the truth about the holocaust, but as they know that even the slightest suspicion of revisionism leads to social ostracism, economic ruin and legal persecution, they understandably prefer not to get involved. However, if we want to win the war against those whom one of my Russian friends called "the enemies of God and mankind".. The logical consequence of all this is that those countries which are authentically anti-Zionist and real friends of the oppressed Palestinian people should make the breakthrough of holocaust revisionism their foremost priority. A tank costs millions of dollars, yet one soldier can destroy it with a single missile. The revisionists can provide anti-Zionist freedom fighters with a weapon not even a thousand missiles can destroy." http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/ http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.htmlWell the claim that they were fighting for a homeland might float, howeverif the are still more concerned about jewish aims and dreams than weighingthis of with the requirements of the other non jewish citizens in thecountries in which they reside, then obviously the non jewish citizens havereason to object and ignore their claims at the expense of their own wealth, lives and wellbeing.We have already paid a top price for assisting jews in their selfish selfishself centred aims.Casualties in WW2Not including the documented 5 million non Jewish in concentration campswho far out numbered the suspected true number of Jewish victims. And thisis without lies and exaggerations about non jewish cassualities.Soviet Union 25,568,000China 11,324,000Germany 7,060,000Poland 6,850,000Japan 1,806,000Yugoslavia 1,700,000Rumania 985,000France 810,000Austria 525,000Italy 410,000Great Britain 388,000USA 295,000Holland 250,000Belgium 85,000Finland 79,000Canada 42,000India 36,000Australia 29,000Albania 28,000Spain 22,000Bulgaria 21,000New Zealand 12,000Norway 10,000South Africa 9,000Luxembourg 5,000Denmark 4,000TOTAL 58,353,000The Jewish ghetto police always had the option, she said, of "throwing offtheir uniforms and joining the rest of us" - a point that Yitzak Zuckerman,a leader of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, made in his memoir.http://www.theexperiment.org/articles.php?news_id=2139Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would neverhave had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And thezionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of thefrightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenratcomprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did noteven know their whereabouts.So no reluctance amongst jews as they knew that they were simply beingencamped._____________________________________THE PROBLEM BEING THAT THE ONLY WILD AND WEIRD ACCOUNTS OF UNTRAMMELLEDHORROR CAME FROM ONLY JEWS.NON JEWS COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED THE WILD STORIES FROM THE CONTRACTINGMUSCLES TO THE SOAP AND TATTOOED LAMPSHADES, ALL BS.During World WarII, Rassinier was a highly decorated member of the FrenchResistance. In October of 1943 he was arrested by the Gestapo for variousactivities including the smuggling of Jewish refugees over the Franco-Swissborder took 2 years to publish his book because of persistent resistanceby the jewish clique.http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.htmlhttp://www.ihr.o rg/books/hoggan/A4.htmlhttp://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/articles/HowWarsBe gin.htmlhttp://www.anti-rev.org/textes/VidalNaquet92a/part-6.htmlhttp://www .alibris.com/search/books/author/Paul_RassinierBut the huge money involved in the reparations won out and we have anothertrue report labeled as a revision against the lies that were spread andapparently plenty of jewish and jewish supporters willing to jump on thebandwagon and build up the stories, supply all sorts of shonky evidence tosupport the lies.And of course the jewish money made it very iffy for experts to testifybecause of the constant arttacks , false ads on the net. in books and byevery jew and his mother of all ages whose chances of being either witnessesof involved were/are slimmer but apparently the courts i n Germany also helpthe cause of falsifying evidence.Although even honest jews could not sway the lies and Finklestein likeRassinier, Harry Elmer Barnes(http://www.amazon.com/Perpetual-Peace-Harry-Elmer-Barnes/dp/09394840 13http://www.courts.fsnet.co.uk/harryelmerbarnes.htm and of course you willfind the jewish supporters here labelling him as a revisionist because hedid not agree with their versionhttp://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/barnes.htmlhttp://tmh.floon et.net/articles/barnes.html ), Charles A. Beard(http://www.questia.com/read/6153679?title=Cross%20Currents%20in%20Eur ope%20To-Dayhttp://www.questia.com/SM.qst ) , Herman Hesse(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Fairy_Tales_of_Hermann_Hess e ) confession is from Hoess. Here are the details: "In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described. In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity. <quote The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an order signed by Höss. The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse." A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car, where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his throat. Höss tried to sleep. Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine." For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you are a soldier and we had to obey orders." The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow was swirling still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk completely nude through the prison yard to his cell. </quote An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed," October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones: <quote Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell to help break him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out for exercise he was made to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities. </quote The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it had been extracted from him by torture... Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of the smoke. The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.Frederick Bausman (http://www.thenation.com/archive/detail/13677001 ) allthe honest teachers and historians were labelled nazi , which of course theywerent, but if you point out the lies the only support you are going to getis from anti semitic groups.And of course there is the decent honest jew tired of the lies.A statement by Norman G. Finkelstein upon publication of Beyond Chutzpahhttp://www.nowar-paix.ca/nowar/forum/6973http://666ismoney.com/Holo caustAds.htmlI, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are personswith PhD's in various fields whoalso deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. Untilrecently, there was never a forensicexamination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figuresare incomplete. After the fallof East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Polandinto the Soviet Union or ended upbehind the Iron Curtain changed their names to assimilate, many civiliansdied in the war, many died in theconcentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two millioncivilians in the Soviet Union diedof typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a HolocaustDocumentation Center in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 alleged victimsof Naziextermination. But as you can see HERE(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearlyevery name is listed at leasttwice, some as many as five times!http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_WelcomeYad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearlyeveryone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, includingyou can submit a "Page of Testimony".And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but 3m according to ourusual jewish/Zionist sources.Put your name in, you might be missing out on reparations.Has been improvements since this, numbers still very dicey.Name Town District RegionCountry Bday SourceFriedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany1879 list of victims from GermanyFriedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany1879 list of deportation from BerlinFriedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany1905 list of deportation from BerlinIt is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions withlouse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas)or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious "witnesses" or torturedconfessors. There are no written orders forextermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration campsshow no smoke and flamesbelching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. The photos and recordsshow there was not enough coke orcrematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessorslied about how many minutes it takesto cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not contain significant amount ofcarbon monoxide to kill a human. Ifthe Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal firedtrain into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed'em with the exhaust from the locomotive or used the exhaust from thecrematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhusepidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving ofheads and requisitions for tons ofZyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messymethod for extermination.http://www.vho.org/The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open DebateThe Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,impractical/impossible, maliciousatrocity propaganda spread by the communists, who hated Hitler andperpetrated by Jews, who were alwayslooking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews haveextorted billions from the US Treasury,Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoaxfraud. The Holohoax also makesthose who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting thedemon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler takeon Stalin alone.A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.And then we have the honest red cross with no ulterior motives.The New Blasphemyby Tom BlairNews Editor, The JubileeThere was a time when a man did not blaspheme God in America. There weresevere social proscriptions against it. Some communities even had lawsagainst blasphemy. Well blasphemy is still a great sin in America and maysoon be a crime again. But sadly America has a new god and so, a newblasphemy.Let me here commit the new blasphemy while it is still legal. What we knowas the "holocaust" is largely war-time propaganda. Propaganda that, unlikemost war-time propaganda, was not quietly forgotten. Instead it hascontinued; grown more fantastic, more hateful, and more dangerous toquestion every year since 1945.The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died inGerman work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.Most of them died in the last six months of the war from disease and hungercaused by America's bombing of Germany and subsequent destruction of herinfrastructure. There were some atrocities but very few. Few people realizethat the International Red Cross had a field office in Auschwiz from 1942until the end of the war. That office never reported or recorded anyatrocities (Several years ago international Jewry forced the Red Cross toapologize to the Jews - apologize for not seeing something that neverhappened.)Ø WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined, imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set forth in this article.It was only after I moved to the Los Angeles area several years ago that Irealized that many people were not aware that millions of victims of theHolocaust were NOT Jewish. Outside the Polish community, I heard very littlemention about the five million non-Jewish victims -- usually referred to as"the othersSubject: Israeli rabbi backs Jewish suicide attacks Organization: Copyright1997 by Reuters Lines: 43 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 9:22:44 PDT Kidnappings, Beatings, Murders and HangingsAttacks by the Irgun and Stern Gang - In 1944, with the end the war insight, Irgun, now under the leadership of Menachem Begin , the future PrimeMinister of Israel 1977-83, began to attack the British administration inPalestine, starting with bomb attacks on the immigration offices, taxoffices and police stations. http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Palestine/kidnap.htmThe Americans were strongly pro Jewish and very anti British. One Hollywoodmotion picture Mogul declared in the British press that he had a holiday inhis heart every time a British soldier was killed in Palestine. and largesections of the American media echoed this sentiment.November 27 -Eight British soldiers killed in bomb attack on police station Jerusalem,Palestine, in Jewish Irgun terrorist attack.http://www.cdiss.org/terror_1940s.htmJuly 22 - Ninety people killed and forty five wounded after Jewishterrorists blow up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, Palestine, which washome to British government and military offices. The terrorists held workersat pistol point while they planted the explosives in the basement of thehotel.July 12 - Jewish Irgun terrorists kidnap and then hang two British Armysergeants. The terrorists were trying to secure the release of three Irgunmembers who had been sentenced to death by the British authorities inPalestine.September 29 - Jewish Irgun terrorists bomb police station in Haifa,Palestine, killing four British and four Arab policemen, as well as two Arabcivilians. Forty six people injured.http://forum.cari.com.my/archiver/?tid-117974.htmlDecember 4, 1948New Palestine PartyVisit of Menachem Begin and Aims of Political Movement DiscussedTO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergencein the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut),a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, politicalphilosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formedout of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, aterrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.Attack on Arab VillageA shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin.This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had takenno part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use thevillage as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bandsattacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in thefighting, killed most of its inhabitants - 240 men, women, and children -and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets ofJerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and theJewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan.But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of thismassacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondentspresent in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc atDeir Yassin.The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of theFreedom Party. (signed)Isidore Abramowitz, Hannah Arendt, Abraham Brick, Rabbi Jessurun Cardozo,Albert Einstein, Herman Eisen, M.D., Hayim Fineman, M. Gallen, M.D., H.H.Harris, Zelig S. Harris, Sidney Hook, Fred Karush, Bruria Kaufman, Irma L.Lindheim, Nachman Maisel, Symour Melman, Myer D. Mendelson, M.D., Harry M.Orlinsky, Samuel Pitlick, Fritz Rohrlich, Louis P. Rocker, Ruth Sager,Itzhak Sankowsky, I.J. Schoenberg, Samuel Shuman, M. Znger, Irma Wolpe,Stefan WolpeNew York, Dec. 2, 1948[/quote]http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article1197235.ec e"B.H. Cramer" <benjis...@yourservice.com wrote in messagenews:4MKdnSvnVuD_lmrVnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@giganews.com... "Jason P" <jasp...@REMOVE.gmail.com wrote in message news:xY6dndIdJenal2rVnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@earthlink.com... "B.H. Cramer" <benjis...@yourservice.com wrote in message news:fvmdnZT_ff_ILmnVnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com... NEVER FORGET: "Deborah Lipstadt, author of the anti-revisionistpolemic Denying the Holocaust, has assigned [Binjamin Wilkormiski's book] Fragments in her Emory University class on Holocaust memoirs. When confrontedwith evidence that it is a fraud [the author spent the war in comfort in Switzerland, not Auschwitz, and was not even a Jew], she commentedthat the new revelations 'might complicate matters somewhat, but [the work] is still powerful.'" - In other words, who cares about fact or fiction where the Holocaustis concerned? And she had the classic Jew audacity to discredit David Irving, andthen make news about it, going on TV with her Jewtardian anti-revisionismsound bites. Jason P Lipstadt is a disgusting, ugly, lying jewess, who is a tad smarter than cohen. Here's some questions put to the slag which she has never acknowledged. Questions for Lipstadt WE ARE often asked for questions to put to Professor Lipstadt in her well-funded peregrinations around the world. ________________________________________ . . . here are just a few: 1. Prof. Lipstadt - why were you afraid to go into the witness box and expose yourself even to the questioning of an amateur like Mr. Irving?You effectively pleaded the Fifth Amendment, which is the traditional routeof those with something to hide. (Mr. Irving subjected himself voluntarilyto three weeks' cross examination by one of the world's leading triallawyers, and he voluntarily made available to you his entire private and public papers.) 2. are you aware that one of your main researchers, Dr. David Cesarani,said that Mr. Irving gave the defence some scary moments, particularly whentheir chief expert witness on the architecture of Auschwitz, Prof. Van Pelt, proved unable to explain what had happened to the bodies (i.e. thelogistics of disposing, for example, of 450,000 Hungarian Jews' bodies in three weeks - around 50,000 tons of corpses, by a small Sonderkommando in one crematory building) [Internet link: see http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/trial3/DieZeit120400e.html] 3. why did you not accept David Irving's challenge, made three times publicly in the courtroom, that he would halt the case in mid-trial ifyou could find any evidence of the holes in the roof slab of Crematorium IIat Auschwitz - which still exists - through which "eye witnesses" in the payof war-crimes prosecution teams claimed to have seen SS officers tipping the Zyklon B granules? Your own chief witness Van Pelt said there are no such holes in the slab, so somebody lied, right? 4. why are you afraid of free debate? You have said there is no debate,but when push came to shove your highly paid Queen's Counsel felt itnecessary to fill the courtroom every day for three months with over thirtylawyers, counsel, barristers, assistants, historians, and researchers, just tostand up against Mr. Irving, who appeared in court alone. Was your case really that weak? 5. why have you and your friends done all you can to muzzle Mr. Irving -by putting pressure on publishers, broadcasters, television companies, and governments not to allow him to speak or to publish his widelyacknowledged books? What are you scared of? 6. in a trial which was about a very serious matter, why did you instruct your counsel to resort to smear tactics, branding Mr. Irving as an anti-Semite and a racist (although he, unlike your Counsel, frequently employs ethnic minorities as his personal staff), and although neither allegation was made in your book or pleaded in your initial Defence? Were you frightened of fighting the case on the facts of history? 7. how much money have you made out of this trial (articles, speakingfees, etc.) already? That's what it's about, isn't it - money? 8. do you think it right that your lawyers paid some of your so called "neutral" expert witnesses a quarter of a million dollars in inducementsto testify in your favour? Those six million dollars put up by Steven Spielberg - you are a religious scholar: Have you never heard the Biblesay, "Good wine needs no bush"? If your case is rock solid why was so muchmoney swilling around that London courtroom? [Internet link: http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/experts/payments.html] 9. a new Zealand academic tribunal has just found that Prof. RichardEvans, your chief witness, was guilty of grossly distorting, misquoting, exaggerating, and polemicizing in his similar "expert report" on Dr. Joel Hayward, and totally lacking in the objectivity that is expected by acourt of an expert witness. How do you feel about Evans now? [Internet link: http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/experts/Evans/NZReportExtract.html] 10. have you read Norman Finkelstein's book, The Holocaust Industry. Ishe a racist and anti-Semite too? 11. you have argued in your books and articles that Jews should neverstoop to marrying outside their religion and race. Is that not racism in its purest and most evil form? 12. who paid your own multi-million dollar legal expenses, and why didthe British High Court, unusually, not allow you to reclaim them? 13. Judge Gray found in his Judgment that three of the statements youmade in your book against Mr Irving are in fact serious lies just as heclaimed (the Stockholm terrorist conference, the Hitler painting "above hisdesk", the stealing or damaging of the Goebbels diaries from the Moscowarchives. Have you removed them from the book's latest editions?) (Answer: You have not).What fraud? Stop trying to divert attention from whats important here. Also,how has David Irving got anything to do w/ 'reactivating the Nazi Party'?He's a historian - also used to be a very famous one too, until he realisedthe truth & stopped writing about the 'Holocaust', THAT was his crime. Ialso believed in it until I started looking at all these reports. Q: Ifthere was a 100% certainty it never happened, what evidence would stop youbelieving? A : NONE while you accept the staus quo.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dQz86Ve8whttp://www.itszone.co.uk/zone 0/viewtopic.php?t=102884http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtCJtbSMiDw&feature= relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JI-axaRF4&feature=relatedGUTLESS WONDERS TAKE A LOOK AT SOME REAL GUTSY PEOPLE WHO ARENT ON THEIRKBEES AS SOON AS YOU MENTION JEW.the killing of Rachel Corrie a non Jewish American who was killed by the IDFby being run down by a bulldozer,and the driver then driving past the grieving peace vo;unteers with a smirkon his face.And apparently Christian america along with Christian Americans have not hada word to say.Just compare the difference below. http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/ One guy gets 10 years, the other gets a raise and promotion?? For killinga non jewish american? And gets to smirk about it?JEWS CANNOT DO ENOUGH FOR AN AMERICAN JEW? WOULD U SAY JEWS ARE USING NONJEWISH AMERICANS.http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1993/051693.htmCompounding the duplicity swirling around the case was the jurors'remarkable verdict: Mr. Nelson was indeed guilty of depriving his victim ofhis civil rights by stabbing him - but not by killing him. Thus, instead ofa possible life sentence, the murderer, with credit for time served, may bea free man in a matter of months.http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/3dayriot.htmlIt is thus with intense interest that we watch as a federal jury in Brooklynhears the case of United States vs. Lemrick Nelson, Jr. and Charles Price --respectively, the accused killer of Yankel Rosenbaum, and the man chargedwith inciting the mob that pursued Rosenbaum. As Coalition goes to press,the trial has finally begun and the prosecution is presenting powerfulevidence against the two defendants http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/HOW ABOUT YOU BETRAYING THE USA AND IT'S ALLIES?????HOW ABOUT YOUR SHIPMATES 0- SORRY GOOD EHOUGH?http://www.ussliberty.com/challenge.htm - $10,000 challenge - The LibertyVeterans Association offers a $10,000 reward to anyone who can establish thetruth of A. Jay Cristol's claim: 1http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.htmlAt 0800 hrs, 8 June, 1967, eight Israeli recon flights flew over 'Liberty,'which was flying a large American flag. At 1400 hrs, waves of low-flyingIsraeli Mystere and Mirage-III fighter-bombers repeatedly attacked theAmerican vessel with rockets, napalm, and cannon. The air attacks lasted 20minutes, concentrating on the ship's electronic antennas and dishes. The'Liberty' was left afire, listing sharply. Eight of her crew lay dead, ahundred seriously wounded, including the captain, Commander WilliamMcGonagle.http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-l/agtr5.ht mOn the afternoon of 8 June 1967, while in international waters off the SinaiPeninsula, Liberty, though clearly marked as a U.S. Navy ship, was struck byIsraeli aircraft. After suffering damage and many personnel casualties fromgunfire, rockets and bombs, she was further attacked by three Israeli Navymotor torpedo boats. One torpedo hit her on the starboard side, forward ofthe superstructure, opening a large hole in her hull. In all, thirty-fourmen were killed in the attacks and nearly 170 wounded. Israel subsequentlyapologized for the incident, explaining that its air and naval forces hadmistaken the Liberty for a much smaller Egyptian Navy ship.December 12 - Twenty Arabs, five Jews and two British soldiers killed andthirty wounded in Jewish terrorist bomb attacks on buses in Haifa andRamleh, Palestine. British mandate to rule Palestine ends on 15 May 1948;state of Israel established.December 29 - Jewish Irgun terrorists throw grenades from passing taxi intocafé near the Damascus gate, Jerusalem, Palestine, killing eleven Arabs andtwo British policemen.March 11Headquarters of the Jewish Agency, Jerusalem, Palestine, destroyed by Arabcar bomb killing thirteen and injuring eighty four.April 9Jewish Irgun terrorist group attacks Deir Yassim, Palestine, murdering twohundred and fifty four Arab women and children captured in the remains ofthe village.JEWS APPEAR TO BE THE ONLY ONES WITH VOICES, WHAT HAS HPPENED TO THEPREVIOUSLY VOCIFEROUS WASPS, and other religious and non religious groups.ONE JEWISH HOLLYWOOD MOTION PICTURE MOGULThe the Jewish controlled American media proclaimed Americans were stronglypro Jewish and very anti British. One Hollywood motion picture Moguldeclared in the British press that he had a holiday in his heart every timea British soldier was killed in Palestine. and large sections of theAmerican media echoed this sentiment.http://hnn.us/articles/832.html"The Palestinians are fighting with human suicide bombers, that's all theyhave. The Israelis . . . they've got one of the most powerful militarymachines in the world. The Palestinians have nothing."-- Ted Turner, Founder of CNN"I do not think that in his heart an Israeli would deny that, if your enemyhas taken land that is rightfully yours and occupied it, then not just yourenemy's army but his wife and son and daughter and servants and all who,under his protection, come to live and make their living on the stolen land,are aggressors. By their presence they aid and abet the occupation."-- Matthew Parris, Saturday Times of London, June 22, 2002"David Ben-Gurion never moved against the Irgun and the Stern Gang untilafter the state was established and secured, which is definitely not true inthe case of the Palestinian Authority. Essentially, the Israelis are askingthe Palestinians to do something they themselves refused to do." i-- Hussein Ibish, Communication director of the American ArabAnti-Discrimination Committeehttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/mufti.html Zionist Jewish supremacists really hate this kind of article, that is why"Hate Crimes" exist. To protect the highest criminals.Is this Politically Correct??[The very creation of Israel required an act of terror. In 1948, most of thenon-Jewish indigenous people were ethnically cleansed from the part ofPalestine which became Israel. This action was carefully planned. Withoutit, no state with a Jewish majority and character would have been possible.Since 1948, the "Israeli Arabs", those Palestinians who avoided expulsion,have suffered continuous discrimination. Indeed, many have been internallydisplaced, ostensibly for "security reasons", but really to acquire theirlands for Jews.]No, the Zionofreaks want to ban any history but what they write.Isn't it quite glaringly obvious that "The Holocaust" legends would fallapart without laws that make it illegal to question it?Isn't it glaringly obvious that 911 was the "Goy Holocaust" for America,that short circuits critical thinking and creates a victim mentallity thatjustifies all sorts of crimes against "evil"?Without "The Holocaust" and "911", the manipulators of the US and Israelwould not have been able to carry out their "War on Terror" terrorismagainst the Arabs.But with a public that thinks it is persecuted and under attack, anyatrocity is justified.The terrorists have won. For now.Rassinier was in the same concentration camp/s for assisting Jews amongstother things with the underground and was treated so badly he had to becarried away on a stretcher when rescued yet he told a different story.And he was delayed by legal action for three years after the war before hecould publish his book. As happened to any Christian who wanted to telltheir story after the war.That is if their story did not jibe with the story the Jewish group/s wantedsupported.It is interesting - what would happen to Rassinier if he were still alive?http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.htmlThat's the strange thing about this whole discussion. You might argue. Ilove civilized reasoned discussion.So we should accept your position based on the fact that Jews pushedeveryone else out of the picture to present themselves as the main victimsof the war?And that was no mean feat; the Christian component out numbered them 10 to1.Usually they're for being silly enough to practice their Christianity andhelp Jews under the Nazis.And it was interesting the way Jews dismissed the Christian involvement andeffort. The only explanation I have ever heard given in the Anne Franke casewas that the family who kept them did it for money. Rather in the vein of'they should have been honored by the opportunity to help a superior Jewishfamily ' completely ignoring the fact that money was going to be needed andstill would not make up for the risk.So the poor Dutch family that helped Anne Franke did not even receive anhonorable mention in the movie.Did other Christians try to tell their story? Yes but it completedcontradicted a lot of the claims of the Jews so the huge difficulties theyhad to overcome to tell their story can be seen by Rassinier who was stoppedfrom publishing his story for more than three years after the war.Some gratitude seeing he was another who helped Jews escape during the war.And that was part of the reason he was in the concentration camp.http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.htmlAnd you will find a great number of pro Jewish sites just rubbishing him forno apparent reason except that he had the temerity to contradict the Jewsclaims very solidly as he was also in the same concentration camps.http://www.nafcash.com/Lest you think there must be some truth to the alleged Treblinka holocaust NAFCASH TM is offering a $250,000.00 REWARD For locating JUST ONE of the alleged "HUGE MASS GRAVES" of Treblinka NAFCASH TM presents THE TREBLINKA CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION CHALLENGE TM You must scientifically - forensically prove the grave's EXACT location,its EXACT dimensions and its EXACT volumetric density. The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent of the alleged massmurder. JUST ONE MASS GRAVE! - JUST ONE PERCENT!http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htmhttp://www.information clearinghouse.info/article21878.htmIsraeli warlord vows face-off with Iran:http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=84344§ionid=351020104Keep in mind that the 'A Clean Break' (war for Israel) agenda waswritten for Netanyahu (access the 'A Clean Break' link at the upperright ofhttp://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM)http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax. htmA look at these healthy happy jews will make you wonder just a little moreabout the hardship claims.http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/letters/2003oct_nbr01.htmThis is a contribution to your inquiry about the label: "holocaust-denial".First of all there was NO holocaust, other than those taking place in everycountry that is at war.The incarceration of "enemies of the state" is a world-wide practice. Theprimary question here is; what constitutes a holocaust? Camps, depravation,imprisonment, harsh treatment, executions, hunger etc.?Those conditions exist in all camps, in all nations, under all regimes.Remember Andersonville, Manzanar, the Gulags, the British camps in Africa,the American death-camps in Germany, they all constitute a "holocaust" ifviewed through the lenses of Jewish "holocaust-sufferers".Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent witnesses. http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.htmlThere are other indications as well that the theory of mass destruction ofthe Hungarian Jews is incorrect: the witnesses to this destructionunanimously claim that during these alleged mass exterminations the limitedcapacity of the Birkenau crematoria necessitated the excavation of enormouspits, in which the bodies were burned. Dark clouds of smoke, they claim,darkened the sky over Birkenau during this procedure. Fortunately (orunfortunately, depending on one's perspective) the aerial reconnaissancephotographs taken by the Allies during this time prove that in the Birkenaucamp, which was not obscured by clouds of smoke when the pictures weretaken, there were neither open fires, nor giant pits, nor smoke activity onany scale large or small, nor piles of dead bodies, nor great supplies offirewood, nor anything else of the sort.[45] The Polish Historical Societyconcludes that in light of this evidence the number of victims in Auschwitzmust be reduced by another 400,000 plus 74,000 (Polish Jews from theliquidated ghetto Lodz, who are also claimed to have been gassed around thistime), leaving some 500,000 victims for Auschwitz.[46]Even allegedly probative documents of the Nuremberg Tribunal cannot changethis, since such documents are by no means always genuine, or true, and onlyever provide evidence for deportations which are not disputed here in thefirst place - they never document an extermination. The reader is remindedof the example of Dachau, the concentration camp where the IMT alleged thathundreds of thousands were gassed, a claim which in the end turned out to benothing more substantial than an atrocity propaganda lie.[47] We shall comeacross another case of dubious IMT documents in the discussion of the SovietUnion.http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735http://www.ren se.com/general69/factua.htmRassinier seems to wrap it up. http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.htmlJews will once again subject Robert Faurisson (aged 78) to a trial for"holocaust denial." The French judicial police served Faurisson a summonsdemanding that he appear in court this Thursday (24 Jan 08). Faurisson ischarged with attending the December 11, 2006 conference in Iran titled,"Review of the Holocaust: Global Vision."This will be the fifteenth time that Jews have hauled Faurisson into court.Jews have already frozen his bank account, while court officials haverepeatedly visited his home, threatening him and his wife with seizure oftheir furniture to pay for financial "damages" caused by his "heretical"remarks.Faurisson is arguably the most thorough of all examiners of the holo-hoax.Ernst Zündel, Gemar Rudolph and others are in prison, but Jews considerFaurisson enemy #1, because of the meticulousness of his work. And since theholo-hoax cannot be defended with reason and science, Jews use oppressivelaws and prison sentences to protect it from rational criticism. In manycases they use extreme violence, as you will see later in this post.Fortunately the Goyim are too cowardly to resist Jewish terrorism.At the Iran conference, Faurisson said that for the past 32 years, he hasbeen waiting for someone to show him one of the chambers where Jews wheresupposedly gassed during the holo-hoax.In July 2006, a Paris court convicted Faurisson of "holocaust denial"because of remarks made by Faurisson on the Sahar 1 Iranian satellitechannel in February 2005. Faurisson was given a three-month suspended prisonterm, and was also fined 7,500 euros.The former Prime Minister of France, Dominique de Villepin, said, "We [theFrench people] are in a democracy. Everyone has the right to express hisviews freely."Therefore all defamatory remarks against Muslims or Islam are protected as"free speech."However, any questioning of the holo-hoax or Jewish atrocities is illegal.The Gayssot Act of 1990 - initiated by President Jaques Chirac -- prohibitsany questioning or examination of the holo-hoax.Faurisson's specialty is examining documents and manuscripts. In 1991 he wasfired from his university post for questioning the holo-hoax. He was chargedwith violating the Gayssot Act, (Loi Gayssot) passed on 13 July 1990 thatmakes it illegal in France to question the holo-hoax. The law was proposedby the communist deputy Jean-Claude Gayssot, and is one of several Europeanlaws that make it illegal to examine the holo-hoax.Its first article states that "any discrimination founded on the membershipor non-membership to an ethnic group, a nation, a race or a religion isprohibited."Discrimination against Muslims, of course, is permissible.When Faurisson was terminated at the university, he appealed to the ICCPRHRC(International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and Human RightsCommittee). This is a UN group that polices literature for any questioningof the holo-hoax. (It is not to be confused with the more high-profileCommission on Human Rights, a Charter-based mechanism, or its replacement,the Human Rights Council, which of course is controlled by Jews.)http://www.von-waldenburg.com/reviews.htmlA person who lived in Germany during the war.http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/57JNX3Frederich Born leader of the ICRC in Hungary and honored by the jews.Of course that strengthens the credibility of the Yad Vashem and who cansay anything about a man being honored and who probably deserved the hnor.Most of their purchases ofrelief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jewsavoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continuedthroughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey.But they were living in the best part of Europe as far as food wasconcerned. And the terrible reflects the difficulties of keeping people incamps and all the terribles do not describe genocide, or even conditions asbad as Israel today.And the fact that some leaders might have stretched the truth about whatthey thought Hitler said or thought about killing of jews, there is no proofof genocide as a policy and no treatment as there is in Israel today. Ofattacking people with planes, helicopters, and tanks. As happens in Israelon a daily basis.The Toben case today:http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/oct/17/germany-australia"Johnny Asia" <bardic26...@mypacks.net wrote in messagenews:o_mdnWiesd-_YMrUnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@earthlink.com...Ø Among the fooled, at least the partially fooled, was Berenbaum, former director of the United States Holocaust Research Institute at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Berenbaum had been asked to read the manuscript by film producer Harris Salomon, who still plans an adaptation of the book. Berenbaum's tentative support - "Crazier things have happened," he toldThe Associated Press last fall - was cited by the publisher as it initially defended the book. Berenbaum now says he saw factual errors, including Rosenblat's description of Theresienstadt, the camp from which he was eventually liberated, but didn't think of challenging the love story. "There's a limit to what I can verify, because I was not there," he says."I can verify the general historical narrative, but in my research I relyupon the survivors to present the specifics of their existence with integrity. When they don't, they destroy so much and they ruin so much, and that's terrible." "I was burned," he added. "And I have to read books more skepticallybecause I was burned." Anger, sadness over fabricated Holocaust story By HILLEL ITALIE, AP National Writer - Sun Dec 28, 1:09 pm ET NEW YORK - It's the latest story that touched, and betrayed, the world. "Herman Rosenblat and his wife are the most gentle, loving, beautiful people," literary agent Andrea Hurst said Sunday, anguishing over whyshe, and so many others, were taken by Rosenblat's story of love born onopposite sides of a barbed-wire fence at a concentration camp. "I question why I never questioned it. I believed it; it was anincredible, hope-filled story." On Saturday, Berkley Books canceled Rosenblat's memoir, "Angel at the Fence." Rosenblat acknowledged that he and his wife did not meet, as they had said for years, at a sub-camp of Buchenwald, where she allegedlysneaked him apples and bread. The book was supposed to come out in February. Rosenblat, 79, has been married to the former Roma Radzicky for 50 years, since meeting her on a blind date in New York. In a statement issued Saturday through his agent, he described himself as an advocate of loveand tolerance who falsified his past to better spread his message. "I wanted to bring happiness to people," said Rosenblat, who now lives in the Miami area. "I brought hope to a lot of people. My motivation was to make good in this world." Rosenblat's believers included not only his agent and his publisher, but Oprah Winfrey, film producers, journalists, family members and strangerswho ignored, or didn't know about, the warnings from scholars that his story didn't make sense. Other Holocaust memoirists have devised greater fantasies. MishaDefonseca, author of "Misha: A Memoire of the Holocaust Years," pretended she was a Jewish girl who lived with wolves during the war, when she was actually a non-Jew who lived, without wolves, in Belgium. Historical records prove Rosenblat was indeed at Buchenwald and othercamps. "How sad that he felt he had to embellish a life of surviving theHolocaust and of being married for half a century," said Holocaust scholar Michael Berenbaum. The damage is broad. Publishing, the most trusting of industries, hasagain been burned by a memoir that fact-checking might have prevented. Berkleyis an imprint of Penguin Group (USA), which in March pulled Margaret B.Jones' "Love and Consequences" after the author acknowledged she had inventedher story of gang life in
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