Whilst we muddle around with cannabis, a drug still safer than alcohol and tobacco, this disgusting rubbish[*] is finding its' way up kids noses. It wouldn't surprise me if they've switched from the cannabis plant to this chemical extract due to this hysteria led by the very befuddled and the exceedingly hypocritical.
[*] I've tried it - it's awful shit.
Half city's youth 'take cocaine'
More than 50% of young people in Liverpool admit to having taken cocaine, a new report claims.
The finding is part of research that shows an "epidemic" of drug use, with respondents saying they take drugs and drinking to enhance their sex lives.
Researchers from Liverpool John Moores University surveyed youngsters from nine European cities in their study.
Drug and alcohol charity Addaction said the city had been unfairly pinpointed but the findings were not shocking.
The poll was carried out among 1,341 youngsters and was led by Professor Mark Bellis, from the Centre for Public Health at Liverpool John Moores University (LJMU).
It showed a third of men and a quarter of women, aged 16 to 35, drank to increase their chances of having sex.
An "epidemic" of recreational drug use and binge drinking is exposing millions of youngsters to drugs, which increases their chance of unsafe sex and increased sexual partners, experts warned.
The authors said these substances altered their sexual decisions and increased their chances of unsafe and regretted sex.
"For many, substance use has become an integral part of their strategic approach to sex, locking them into continued use," they said.
'Unfairly' targeted
The cities included were Liverpool, Vienna, Brno in the Czech Republic, Berlin, Athens, Venice, Lisbon, Ljubljana in Slovenia, and Palma, Spain.
But Elliot Elam, spokesperson for Addaction, the UK's largest drugs and alcohol charity, said: "I think this report does pinpoint Liverpool a little unfairly.
"Liverpool was the only British city surveyed and it's like saying Palma is representative of the whole of Spain - it's not.
"Although I'm not totally shocked by the statistics, we know we have a problem as compared to the rest of Europe in some areas.
"Drugs, particularly cocaine, are very prevalent and readily available."
He accepted that people "experiment", but often do not have access to enough information to make proper decisions about what they take.
"There is still an acceptability and cachet to taking cocaine," he said.
"[But] most young won't take drugs in isolation they won't just take cocaine, ecstasy or cannabis, they will take whatever is available."
> Whilst we muddle around with cannabis, a drug still safer than alcohol and > tobacco, this disgusting rubbish[*] is finding its' way up kids noses. It > wouldn't surprise me if they've switched from the cannabis plant to this > chemical extract due to this hysteria led by the very befuddled and the > exceedingly hypocritical.
> [*] I've tried it - it's awful shit.
> Half city's youth 'take cocaine'
A hit of crack would work out cheaper. Heroin would be cheaper and wouldn't string them out so much. The thing is it has been available to the middle class for years. As the price drops then it becomes more popular all over the place. I expect groups of kids are all chipping in to buy half a gramme. One line each if they are lucky.
There are radical Islamists who are trying to flood this country with all manner of class A substances.
On 2008-05-09, Baldoni <baldon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A hit of crack would work out cheaper. Heroin would be cheaper and > wouldn't string them out so much. The thing is it has been available > to the middle class for years. As the price drops then it becomes more > popular all over the place. I expect groups of kids are all chipping > in to buy half a gramme. One line each if they are lucky.
A while ago, some Italian researchers decided to work out how much cocaine is _actually_ being taken, by a rather devious route. They worked out what happens to cocaine in a person's body, which is it gets turned into something else and excreted in urine.
The metabolite only comes from cocaine, and the only natural source of it is cocaine taken by people. So, work out how much metabolite is in the sewage and you know how much cocaine is being taken per day by people.
Turns out the figure is about ten times higher than any previous research (all based on asking people and guesstimating an answer) had said. Ordinarily, I'd be highly suspicious of such an outlying figure, but here, what with this being the only quantitative study made and all the rest being subject to huge reporting bias, I'm inclined to believe it.
This result (and the "Me Too!" one done in London, with similar results) tells us a few things:
Firstly, the level and amount of cocaine use is much, much higher than the Government thought.
Secondly, well over 95% of cocaine users are undetected by law enforcement, medical science or anything.
Thirdly, the overwhelming majority of people who use cocaine suffer no detectable ill effects from it (otherwise we'd know about it).
Finally, data from the police shows that the street price of cocaine is going down. The number of users isn't likely to be decreasing, so what is happening is that the amount of cocaine smuggled in is increasing.
We're losing this war on drugs.
Let's try something different, please. Fighting a losing war that we know we cannot win is incredibly stupid.
-- Dan Holdsworth PhD d...@drh.me.uk By caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, By the beans of Java do thoughts acquire speed, hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, By caffeine alone do I set my mind in motion
> on 09/05/2008, Dr John Watson supposed : > > Whilst we muddle around with cannabis, a drug still safer than alcohol and > > tobacco, this disgusting rubbish[*] is finding its' way up kids noses. It > > wouldn't surprise me if they've switched from the cannabis plant to this > > chemical extract due to this hysteria led by the very befuddled and the > > exceedingly hypocritical.
> > [*] I've tried it - it's awful shit.
> > Half city's youth 'take cocaine'
> A hit of crack would work out cheaper. Heroin would be cheaper and > wouldn't string them out so much. The thing is it has been available > to the middle class for years. As the price drops then it becomes more > popular all over the place. I expect groups of kids are all chipping > in to buy half a gramme. One line each if they are lucky.
> There are radical Islamists who are trying to flood this country with > all manner of class A substances.
> -- > Baldoni > Who cares, let them kill themselves>
Dr Dan Holdsworth wrote: > Thirdly, the overwhelming majority of people who use cocaine suffer no > detectable ill effects from it (otherwise we'd know about it).
This just isn't true. Cocaine does increase the risk of heart disease. IIRC a high proportion of patients admitted to hospital for a heart attack in their 40's show traces of cocaine in their system.
> A while ago, some Italian researchers decided to work out how much > cocaine is _actually_ being taken, by a rather devious route. They > worked out what happens to cocaine in a person's body, which is it gets > turned into something else and excreted in urine.
> The metabolite only comes from cocaine, and the only natural source of > it is cocaine taken by people. So, work out how much metabolite is in > the sewage and you know how much cocaine is being taken per day by > people.
> Turns out the figure is about ten times higher than any previous > research (all based on asking people and guesstimating an answer) had > said. Ordinarily, I'd be highly suspicious of such an outlying figure, > but here, what with this being the only quantitative study made and all > the rest being subject to huge reporting bias, I'm inclined to believe > it.
> This result (and the "Me Too!" one done in London, with similar results) > tells us a few things:
> Firstly, the level and amount of cocaine use is much, much higher than > the Government thought.
> Secondly, well over 95% of cocaine users are undetected by law > enforcement, medical science or anything.
> Thirdly, the overwhelming majority of people who use cocaine suffer no > detectable ill effects from it (otherwise we'd know about it).
> Finally, data from the police shows that the street price of cocaine is > going down. The number of users isn't likely to be decreasing, so what > is happening is that the amount of cocaine smuggled in is increasing.
> We're losing this war on drugs.
It was lost over 20 years ago.
> Let's try something different, please. Fighting a losing war that we > know we cannot win is incredibly stupid.
Repeating something that's already failed expecting a different outcome shows some kind of psychosis.
Dr John Watson wrote: > Noticed at Sat, 10 May 2008 11:07:31 +0000: Dr Dan Holdsworth informed us:
>> A while ago, some Italian researchers decided to work out how much >> cocaine is _actually_ being taken, by a rather devious route. They >> worked out what happens to cocaine in a person's body, which is it gets >> turned into something else and excreted in urine.
>> The metabolite only comes from cocaine, and the only natural source of >> it is cocaine taken by people. So, work out how much metabolite is in >> the sewage and you know how much cocaine is being taken per day by >> people.
>> Turns out the figure is about ten times higher than any previous >> research (all based on asking people and guesstimating an answer) had >> said. Ordinarily, I'd be highly suspicious of such an outlying figure, >> but here, what with this being the only quantitative study made and all >> the rest being subject to huge reporting bias, I'm inclined to believe >> it.
>> This result (and the "Me Too!" one done in London, with similar results) >> tells us a few things:
>> Firstly, the level and amount of cocaine use is much, much higher than >> the Government thought.
>> Secondly, well over 95% of cocaine users are undetected by law >> enforcement, medical science or anything.
>> Thirdly, the overwhelming majority of people who use cocaine suffer no >> detectable ill effects from it (otherwise we'd know about it).
>> Finally, data from the police shows that the street price of cocaine is >> going down. The number of users isn't likely to be decreasing, so what >> is happening is that the amount of cocaine smuggled in is increasing.
>> We're losing this war on drugs.
> It was lost over 20 years ago.
>> Let's try something different, please. Fighting a losing war that we >> know we cannot win is incredibly stupid.
> Repeating something that's already failed expecting a different outcome > shows some kind of psychosis.
Well if you were talking about a person then you would be correct but you are talking about a government and the term psychosis would not apply. Dysfunctional would apply I believe and the prisoner of special interests would work.
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