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hmong  
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 More options Jun 30, 11:40 am
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From: hmong <plum_vill...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:40:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 30 2009 11:40 am
Subject: BBC News
A bit of a change of pace, this story on the Khmere Rouge in Cambodia.
Unbelievably bad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/asia-pacific/8123541.stm (link)

09:13 GMT, Monday, 29 June 2009 10:13 UK
Khmer Rouge survivor testifies

A foreign photographer, left, takes a photo of Vann Nath, 63, during
the tribunal

One of the few survivors of the Khmer Rouge regime's notorious Tuol
Sleng detention centre has testified at a UN-backed tribunal in
Cambodia.

Van Nath described how hunger had driven him to eat insects, and said
he had also eaten the food beside corpses of starved fellow prisoners.

He was appearing at the trial of the man who ran the prison, Comrade
Duch.

About 15,000 people were detained at Tuol Sleng in the late 1970s, but
only seven are thought to have survived.

Unique perspective

Van Nath has been waiting for his day in court for 30 years.

The tribunal has already heard plenty from Comrade Duch himself - as
well as a number of expert witnesses.

WHO WERE THE KHMER ROUGE?

    * Maoist regime that ruled Cambodia from 1975-1979
    * Founded and led by Pol Pot, who died in 1998
    * Abolished religion, schools and currency in a bid to create
agrarian utopia
    * Up to two million people thought to have died from starvation,
overwork or execution

Kaing Guek Eav, pictured in February

But according to the BBC's Guy DeLauney in Phnom Penh, Van Nath can
provide a unique perspective, as one of only three men still alive who
know what it is like to have been a prisoner at Tuol Sleng.

"The conditions were so inhumane and the food was so little," Van Nath
told the tribunal, as he broke down in tears. "I even thought eating
human flesh would be a good meal."

He said he was fed twice a day, but each meal only consisted of three
teaspoons of rice porridge.

"We were so hungry, we would eat insects that dropped from the
ceiling," he said. "We ate our meals next to dead bodies, and we
didn't care because we were like animals."

He described how prisoners were kept shackled - 20 or 30 of them
together - and ordered not to speak or move.

Van Nath owed his survival to his skills as a painter. He was forced
to produce portraits of Khmer Rouge leaders - on pain of death.

"I thought that if I could do good pictures and they were satisfied
with what I painted, they would be happy and I would survive," said
Van Nath before taking the stand.

Van Nath's portraits passed muster - and he has since become one of
Cambodia's most famous artists, and his work often depicts scenes from
Tuol Sleng.

Admission of guilt

Comrade Duch, whose real name is Kaing Guek Eav, is accused of
overseeing the torture and extermination of prisoners at the jail.

Earlier in his trial, the 66-year-old admitted responsibility for his
role as governor of the jail, and begged forgiveness from his victims.

But he also insisted that he did not hold a senior role in the regime,
and that he had had little choice but to work there.

Four other former Khmer Rouge leaders are currently in detention at
the court, and are expected to face trial in 2010.


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hmong  
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 More options Jun 30, 2:32 pm
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From: hmong <plum_vill...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 30 2009 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: BBC News
Unrelated but showing how things are, Mexico is so messed up now with
the Drug Wars, Mother Jones is reporting though, the Army of the
government there
is as bad as any of those cartels. The Army is apparently causing a
lot of the problems and terror according to Mother Jones.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/03/mexicos-drug-war-fully-us-loaded

Good article.


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 More options Jul 3, 1:37 am
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From: yawgnom <yawg...@rocketmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:37:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 3 2009 1:37 am
Subject: Re: BBC News
On Jul 2, 8:09 am, hmong <plum_vill...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> So where is this murdering slop now?? Answer me??!!!!

> We know it isn't the Hmong, thank goodness for them.

> They know no one is going to church for abuse support via St.
> Bonaventure's or via Father Jonson's cussing and all else the fat man
> has done.

> Whether it is at the numerous libraries where the rape stalking has
> taken place, Southdale, Oxboro on Portland near st. Bonaventure's,
> etc. these places need to be sued.

Hmong

You like you have so many problem that no one can solve.  Why you have
this so many problem? Look like you have problem with church, with
police, with sexual, with rape and the lists go on and on.

One thing that can help you is send your name, birth date and exackly
what problem you need to go away plus $50.00 to me so I will perform
miracle to help you get away from it. Send your name and address to my
email so I will send you my flyer and I will help you my friend. Good
luck on you.


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