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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:46:58 +1000
From: "Elias Bizannes" <elias.bizan...@gmail.com>
To: silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: New project idea: Bringing back Twitter SMS
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...3Jam is a company with two Aussies that work there as well. Nice.
- Brad was the guy that organised all the STUB's that then sparked  the
nation wide *TUB. He recently moved to the States, and has taken on a  lead
role for their web development, which from what he has told me in the past,
this is a company we should watch. Turning the company into more than what
it currently is.
- Cathy, I don't know her, but is in marketing and is a Melbournite.


On 8/19/08, Chris Saad <chris.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like someone is solving the problem:
>
>
> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/3jam-offers-refuge-for-abandoned-twitter-users/
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Suhit Anantula <anant...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Mark:
>>
>> Good one there.
>>
>> I think it is a bigger issue that just twitter. I still think there is
>> value in SMS as a medium, just because of the multitude of phones that do
>> not have a good online interface (I mean not like iPhones!) and also of the
>> fact that many do not subscribe to mobile data plans for the reasons that
>> you have articulated.
>>
>> Considering the discussions, the telco model for making profits in
>> Australia on SMS is tough to break. If there is a cheaper solution available
>> it will be a great one.
>>
>> I use one alternative. I am on 3 and they provide unlimited e-mails (to
>> and fro) from the 3 e-mail account for $3 a month or part of the many mobile
>> data packages that they provide. With my Sony K610i, it supports push e-mail
>> from 3.
>>
>> I generally forward from my gmail account the specfic e-mails that I want
>> to recieve while on the go, whether they are from a person, twitter etc. I
>> am always connected and it is cheap and unlimited.
>>
>> That is one way to go.
>>
>> Another option is Twitter or other social network RSS feed. Again it is
>> built into my Sony K610i and it is easy to access and does not cost a lot in
>> mobile data.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Suhit
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mark Neely <mark.ne...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm sure that developing a Twitter-to-SMS would be a fairly
>>> straightforward
>>> exercise, given their API and the fact they currently support it in other
>>> countries.
>>>
>>> I am just wondering if this is a retrograde solution.
>>>
>>> Anyone who has dealt with telcos will tell you that they love to skim
>>> profits. The artificially high data rates for mobile data (and SMS for
>>> that
>>> matter) is a classic case in point. They charge like wounded bulls
>>> because
>>> they can - they own the infrastructure and, in the case of SMS, they own
>>> the
>>> billing engine.
>>>
>>> Given that 3G is fast becoming a standard globally, why would you develop
>>> a
>>> solution based on 1G technology - and force yourself into bed with the
>>> profiteering telcos?
>>>
>>> Why not look at the other data channel (IP) and use that to create an
>>> SMS-esque application? Create a solution that gives a SMS-like experience
>>> -
>>> beeping/vibrating when incoming messages are received, with a reply
>>> service
>>> - but which operates independently of a specific carrier?
>>>
>>> And, if you're going to go down that path, why not build the app in such
>>> a
>>> way that it can be interfaced with other social services?
>>>
>>> The pain that has been articulated - wanting to keep an eye on 'social
>>> updates' when away from your primary computer - is real. But it is felt
>>> by a
>>> lot more people than just Twitter users.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> -----
>>> Mark Neely
>>> Master Strategist
>>> Infolution Pty Ltd
>>>
>>> e: m...@infolution.com.au
>>> m: +61 (0)412 0417 29
>>> skype: mark.neely
>>>
>>> Read my blogs --> www.infolution.com.au
>>>                            www.neelyready.com
>>> Connect on LinkedIn --> www.linkedin.com/in/markneely
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> [mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bart
>>> Jellema
>>> Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 1:06 AM
>>> To: Silicon Beach Australia
>>> Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: New project idea: Bringing back Twitter SMS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think pricing is an issue at all... I just build it with my modem
>>> for fun... using a gateway is just as easy and just as cheap...
>>> 5c to 7c per message...
>>> http://www.clickatell.com/pricing/pricing_wizard.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Suhit Anantula
>>
>> www.worldisgreen.com
>> Yahoo/MSN/Skype ID : suhit_a
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/worldisgreen
>>
>> "if the people lead, the leaders will follow." - bumper sticker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Saad
>
> FaradayMedia - For Audiences of One
> Particls - Are You Paying Attention?
> Engagd - The Open Attention Platform
> Media 2.0 Workgroup - Social, Democratic, Distributed
> APML - Your Attention Profile
> DataPortability - Connect, Control, Share, Remix
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Elias Bizannes
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<div>...3Jam is a company with&nbsp;two Aussies that work there as well. Nice.<br>- Brad was the guy that organised all the STUB&#39;s that then sparked&nbsp; the nation wide *TUB. He recently moved to the States, and has taken on a&nbsp; lead role for their web development, which from what he has told me in the past, this is a company we should watch. Turning the company into more than what it currently is.</div>

<div>- Cathy, I don&#39;t know her, but is in marketing and is a Melbournite.<br>&nbsp;</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/19/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Chris Saad</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:chris.s...@gmail.com">chris.s...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div dir="ltr">Looks like someone is solving the problem:<br><br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/3jam-offers-refuge-for-abandoned-twitter-users/" target="_blank">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/3jam-offers-refuge-for-abandoned-twitter-users/</a><br>
<br>Chris 
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Suhit Anantula <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:anant...@gmail.com" target="_blank">anant...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<div dir="ltr">Mark:<br><br>Good one there.<br><br>I think it is a bigger issue that just twitter. I still think there is value in SMS as a medium, just because of the multitude of phones that do not have a good online interface (I mean not like iPhones!) and also of the fact that many do not subscribe to mobile data plans for the reasons that you have articulated.<br>
<br>Considering the discussions, the telco model for making profits in Australia on SMS is tough to break. If there is a cheaper solution available it will be a great one.<br><br>I use one alternative. I am on 3 and they provide unlimited e-mails (to and fro) from the 3 e-mail account for $3 a month or part of the many mobile data packages that they provide. With my Sony K610i, it supports push e-mail from 3. <br>
<br>I generally forward from my gmail account the specfic e-mails that I want to recieve while on the go, whether they are from a person, twitter etc. I am always connected and it is cheap and unlimited.<br><br>That is one way to go.<br>
<br>Another option is Twitter or other social network RSS feed. Again it is built into my Sony K610i and it is easy to access and does not cost a lot in mobile data.<br><br>Cheers<br>Suhit 
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mark Neely <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:mark.ne...@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.ne...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><br>Hi,<br><br>I&#39;m sure that developing a Twitter-to-SMS would be a fairly straightforward<br>
exercise, given their API and the fact they currently support it in other<br>countries.<br><br>I am just wondering if this is a retrograde solution.<br><br>Anyone who has dealt with telcos will tell you that they love to skim<br>
profits. The artificially high data rates for mobile data (and SMS for that<br>matter) is a classic case in point. They charge like wounded bulls because<br>they can - they own the infrastructure and, in the case of SMS, they own the<br>
billing engine.<br><br>Given that 3G is fast becoming a standard globally, why would you develop a<br>solution based on 1G technology - and force yourself into bed with the<br>profiteering telcos?<br><br>Why not look at the other data channel (IP) and use that to create an<br>
SMS-esque application? Create a solution that gives a SMS-like experience -<br>beeping/vibrating when incoming messages are received, with a reply service<br>- but which operates independently of a specific carrier?<br><br>
And, if you&#39;re going to go down that path, why not build the app in such a<br>way that it can be interfaced with other social services?<br><br>The pain that has been articulated - wanting to keep an eye on &#39;social<br>
updates&#39; when away from your primary computer - is real. But it is felt by a<br>lot more people than just Twitter users.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Mark<br>-----<br>Mark Neely<br>Master Strategist<br>Infolution Pty Ltd<br>
<br>e: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:m...@infolution.com.au" target="_blank">m...@infolution.com.au</a><br>m: +61 (0)412 0417 29<br>skype: mark.neely<br><br>Read my blogs --&gt; <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.infolution.com.au/" target="_blank">www.infolution.com.au</a><br>
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<div><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com</a><br>
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<div>[mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com</a>] On Behalf Of Bart Jellema<br>Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 1:06 AM<br>
To: Silicon Beach Australia<br>Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: New project idea: Bringing back Twitter SMS<br><br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I don&#39;t think pricing is an issue at all... I just build it with my modem<br>for fun... using a gateway is just as easy and just as cheap...<br>5c to 7c per message... <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.clickatell.com/pricing/pricing_wizard.php" target="_blank">http://www.clickatell.com/pricing/pricing_wizard.php</a><br>
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<div><br>&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>&nbsp;</div></div>Suhit Anantula<br><br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.worldisgreen.com/" target="_blank">www.worldisgreen.com</a><br>
Yahoo/MSN/Skype ID : suhit_a<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/worldisgreen" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/worldisgreen</a><br><br>&quot;if the people lead, the leaders will follow.&quot; - bumper sticker<br>
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<div><br><br>&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br></span></div>Chris Saad<br><br>FaradayMedia - For Audiences of One<br>Particls - Are You Paying Attention?<br>Engagd - The Open Attention Platform<br>
Media 2.0 Workgroup - Social, Democratic, Distributed<br>APML - Your Attention Profile<br>DataPortability - Connect, Control, Share, Remix<br>&nbsp;</div>
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