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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:29:57 -0700
From: "Chris Saad" <chris.s...@gmail.com>
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Looks like someone is solving the problem:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/3jam-offers-refuge-for-abandoned-twitter-users/

Chris

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Suhit Anantula <anant...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark:
>
> Good one there.
>
> I think it is a bigger issue that just twitter. I still think there is
> value in SMS as a medium, just because of the multitude of phones that do
> not have a good online interface (I mean not like iPhones!) and also of the
> fact that many do not subscribe to mobile data plans for the reasons that
> you have articulated.
>
> Considering the discussions, the telco model for making profits in
> Australia on SMS is tough to break. If there is a cheaper solution available
> it will be a great one.
>
> I use one alternative. I am on 3 and they provide unlimited e-mails (to and
> fro) from the 3 e-mail account for $3 a month or part of the many mobile
> data packages that they provide. With my Sony K610i, it supports push e-mail
> from 3.
>
> I generally forward from my gmail account the specfic e-mails that I want
> to recieve while on the go, whether they are from a person, twitter etc. I
> am always connected and it is cheap and unlimited.
>
> That is one way to go.
>
> Another option is Twitter or other social network RSS feed. Again it is
> built into my Sony K610i and it is easy to access and does not cost a lot in
> mobile data.
>
> Cheers
> Suhit
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mark Neely <mark.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm sure that developing a Twitter-to-SMS would be a fairly
>> straightforward
>> exercise, given their API and the fact they currently support it in other
>> countries.
>>
>> I am just wondering if this is a retrograde solution.
>>
>> Anyone who has dealt with telcos will tell you that they love to skim
>> profits. The artificially high data rates for mobile data (and SMS for
>> that
>> matter) is a classic case in point. They charge like wounded bulls because
>> they can - they own the infrastructure and, in the case of SMS, they own
>> the
>> billing engine.
>>
>> Given that 3G is fast becoming a standard globally, why would you develop
>> a
>> solution based on 1G technology - and force yourself into bed with the
>> profiteering telcos?
>>
>> Why not look at the other data channel (IP) and use that to create an
>> SMS-esque application? Create a solution that gives a SMS-like experience
>> -
>> beeping/vibrating when incoming messages are received, with a reply
>> service
>> - but which operates independently of a specific carrier?
>>
>> And, if you're going to go down that path, why not build the app in such a
>> way that it can be interfaced with other social services?
>>
>> The pain that has been articulated - wanting to keep an eye on 'social
>> updates' when away from your primary computer - is real. But it is felt by
>> a
>> lot more people than just Twitter users.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark
>> -----
>> Mark Neely
>> Master Strategist
>> Infolution Pty Ltd
>>
>> e: m...@infolution.com.au
>> m: +61 (0)412 0417 29
>> skype: mark.neely
>>
>> Read my blogs --> www.infolution.com.au
>>                            www.neelyready.com
>> Connect on LinkedIn --> www.linkedin.com/in/markneely
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bart
>> Jellema
>> Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 1:06 AM
>> To: Silicon Beach Australia
>> Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: New project idea: Bringing back Twitter SMS
>>
>>
>> I don't think pricing is an issue at all... I just build it with my modem
>> for fun... using a gateway is just as easy and just as cheap...
>> 5c to 7c per message...
>> http://www.clickatell.com/pricing/pricing_wizard.php
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Suhit Anantula
>
> www.worldisgreen.com
> Yahoo/MSN/Skype ID : suhit_a
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/worldisgreen
>
> "if the people lead, the leaders will follow." - bumper sticker
>
> >
>


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<div dir="ltr">Looks like someone is solving the problem:<br><br><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/3jam-offers-refuge-for-abandoned-twitter-users/">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/3jam-offers-refuge-for-abandoned-twitter-users/</a><br>
<br>Chris<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Suhit Anantula <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:anant...@gmail.com">anant...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Mark:<br><br>Good one there.<br><br>I think it is a bigger issue that just twitter. I still think there is value in SMS as a medium, just because of the multitude of phones that do not have a good online interface (I mean not like iPhones!) and also of the fact that many do not subscribe to mobile data plans for the reasons that you have articulated.<br>

<br>Considering the discussions, the telco model for making profits in Australia on SMS is tough to break. If there is a cheaper solution available it will be a great one.<br><br>I use one alternative. I am on 3 and they provide unlimited e-mails (to and fro) from the 3 e-mail account for $3 a month or part of the many mobile data packages that they provide. With my Sony K610i, it supports push e-mail from 3. <br>

<br>I generally forward from my gmail account the specfic e-mails that I want to recieve while on the go, whether they are from a person, twitter etc. I am always connected and it is cheap and unlimited.<br><br>That is one way to go.<br>

<br>Another option is Twitter or other social network RSS feed. Again it is built into my Sony K610i and it is easy to access and does not cost a lot in mobile data.<br><br>Cheers<br>Suhit<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mark Neely <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mark.ne...@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.ne...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
I&#39;m sure that developing a Twitter-to-SMS would be a fairly straightforward<br>
exercise, given their API and the fact they currently support it in other<br>
countries.<br>
<br>
I am just wondering if this is a retrograde solution.<br>
<br>
Anyone who has dealt with telcos will tell you that they love to skim<br>
profits. The artificially high data rates for mobile data (and SMS for that<br>
matter) is a classic case in point. They charge like wounded bulls because<br>
they can - they own the infrastructure and, in the case of SMS, they own the<br>
billing engine.<br>
<br>
Given that 3G is fast becoming a standard globally, why would you develop a<br>
solution based on 1G technology - and force yourself into bed with the<br>
profiteering telcos?<br>
<br>
Why not look at the other data channel (IP) and use that to create an<br>
SMS-esque application? Create a solution that gives a SMS-like experience -<br>
beeping/vibrating when incoming messages are received, with a reply service<br>
- but which operates independently of a specific carrier?<br>
<br>
And, if you&#39;re going to go down that path, why not build the app in such a<br>
way that it can be interfaced with other social services?<br>
<br>
The pain that has been articulated - wanting to keep an eye on &#39;social<br>
updates&#39; when away from your primary computer - is real. But it is felt by a<br>
lot more people than just Twitter users.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
-----<br>
Mark Neely<br>
Master Strategist<br>
Infolution Pty Ltd<br>
<br>
e: <a href="mailto:m...@infolution.com.au" target="_blank">m...@infolution.com.au</a><br>
m: +61 (0)412 0417 29<br>
skype: mark.neely<br>
<br>
Read my blogs --&gt; <a href="http://www.infolution.com.au" target="_blank">www.infolution.com.au</a><br>
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Connect on LinkedIn --&gt; <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/markneely" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/markneely</a><br>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com</a><br>
</div><div>[mailto:<a href="mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com</a>] On Behalf Of Bart Jellema<br>
Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 1:06 AM<br>
To: Silicon Beach Australia<br>
Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: New project idea: Bringing back Twitter SMS<br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div>I don&#39;t think pricing is an issue at all... I just build it with my modem<br>
for fun... using a gateway is just as easy and just as cheap...<br>
5c to 7c per message... <a href="http://www.clickatell.com/pricing/pricing_wizard.php" target="_blank">http://www.clickatell.com/pricing/pricing_wizard.php</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br></div></div>Suhit Anantula<br> <br><a href="http://www.worldisgreen.com" target="_blank">www.worldisgreen.com</a><br>Yahoo/MSN/Skype ID : suhit_a<br><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/worldisgreen" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/worldisgreen</a><br>

<br>&quot;if the people lead, the leaders will follow.&quot; - bumper sticker<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Chris Saad<br><br>FaradayMedia - For Audiences of One<br>Particls - Are You Paying Attention?<br>Engagd - The Open Attention Platform<br>Media 2.0 Workgroup - Social, Democratic, Distributed<br>
APML - Your Attention Profile<br>DataPortability - Connect, Control, Share, Remix<br>
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