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Jonathan Clarke  
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From: Jonathan Clarke <clarke.jonat...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:12:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 12:12 pm
Subject: Charitable Software Projects
So I'm into my final year of my Masters in Software Development and
one of the stages I need to complete is a thesis which will last about
1 year.  I've been thinking quite a lot about developing software for
charities and NGOs as part of this module and I'd just like to get
some of your initial thoughts on possible projects you would like to
see undertaken.

After 6 years of University I have yet to see many projects developed
by students specifically aimed towards NGOs which is an incredible
shame.  Much of the work completed by Undergraduates/Postgraduates
never seem to see the light of day.

Anyhow, I just want to get a feeling for what your thoughts are on
what I am undertaking.  I'm more than happy to hear from any charity
or NGO about any project they have on their wish lists, the module
does not start until September however I want to have a clear idea of
the project before then.

The aim would be to find a common theme amongst them all and open
source the final solution at the end.  This would of course only be
possible through working with potential stakeholders every step of the
way.  Comments are very welcome

Thanks and kind regards,

Jonathan Clarke


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Nathan de Vries  
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From: Nathan de Vries <nat...@atnan.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:54:39 +1000
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Charitable Software Projects
On 01/07/2009, at 12:12 PM, Jonathan Clarke wrote:

> Comments are very welcome...

Pat Allan [1] lurks on this list and from what I understand has a fair  
amount of experience doing software development for NGOs in Cambodia.  
You might also want to get in touch with Engineers Without Borders  
[2], who would probably be more than happy to steer you in the right  
direction.

Cheers,

Nathan de Vries

[1] http://freelancing-gods.com/about
[2] http://www.ewb.org.au


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dimka  
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From: dimka <dimka.koz...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Charitable Software Projects
Hi Jonathan,

I am not working for any charity and I don't know what kind of
problems do they have to deal with.
Here are couple of quick thoughts from an outside perspective.

Charities need better transparency.
How can I find out what do they spend donated money on? How effective
are they? What percentage of money goes to cover the management
overhead and what serves the proclaimed purpose? What do they actually
do to make their work more effective? There are so many types of
charities, some of them do their work fine, some not. How to figure
out who is who?

Collecting money from public could be improved. I do not think that
sending volunteers to streets is the most effective way.
Examples: http://www.freerice.com

Helping people by simply giving money away may not necessarily be a
good thing and may achieve completely the opposite result. What
charities do about that?
Examples: http://www.kiva.org/

Regards,
Dmitri.

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Nick Gonios  
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From: Nick Gonios <nickgon...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:55:01 +1000
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Charitable Software Projects
Hi Jonathan

I have had direct experience with one web based business that is  
seriously creating change when it comes to NGOs.

Company is everyday heroes.

They provide a very successful fundraising plAtform for NGOs with well  
over $11m already raised using their platform in the local market.

Check them out.

Nick Gonios

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Mat French  
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From: Mat French <mat.fre...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:31:50 +1000
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Charitable Software Projects

Grants Management System would be good.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Jonathan Clarke
<clarke.jonat...@gmail.com>wrote:

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Regards,

Mathew French


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chieftech  
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From: chieftech <james.del...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:57:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Charitable Software Projects
Just so I'm clear, for your thesis are you actually going to develop
anything? If not, what's your intended output?

You might also like to get in touch with http://www.connectingup.org/
or go along to http://www.meetup.com/The-Sydney-NetSquared-Meetup-Group/calendar/104...
and meet some non-profit peeps.

James*

*PS A belated introduction... I've been lurking via RSS for a while.
I'm involved with ICT Illawarra (ICTI), an ICT industry cluster for
the Illawarra region in NSW http://www.icti.org.au/ and this explains
my primary interst in Silicon Beach Australia. My day job is with
Headshift http://www.headshift.com/ who are a specialist social media
and social computing consultancy. We're sort of in start up mode in
Australia, but we're pretty well known in the UK. Based in Sydney, but
working virtually from Wollongong most of the time :-)

--

James Dellow
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Blog: http://chieftech.com.au
Twitter: chieftech Skype: james.dellow

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Jax  
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From: Jax <jec...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 2 2009 9:01 am
Subject: Re: Charitable Software Projects
Hi Jonathan,
You could also check out CES http://www.community-exchange.org/ as a
successful implementation of purpose built software.
CES was built to support LETS - Local Energy Trading Systems around
the world (they exchange goods and services using alternative
currencies).
Sydney LETS can be found here http://www.auslets.org/sydney/

cheers
Jacqui


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Pat Allan  
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 More options Jul 6, 5:46 am
From: Pat Allan <p...@freelancing-gods.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 15:46:43 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 6 2009 5:46 am
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Charitable Software Projects
Thanks for the mention Nathan, and doubly so for promoting Engineers  
Without Borders - they run some fantastic projects.

Jonathan - sorry it's taken me a few days to respond. A few points  
from my small experience in this space:

* Big NGOs (such as World Vision) as very much like large corporates:  
there's plenty of bureaucracy bullshit to deal with, and they usually  
have their own team of developers.
* Small NGOs in developing nations often have slow internet (if they  
have internet at all), low technical skills, and low English skills.  
In Cambodia, they struggle with software like Microsoft Word, because  
they don't understand the alerts and icons.
* So much of their resources are focused on their projects, and the  
rest on getting funding for said projects. Generally no budget exists  
for looking at new software.
* That said, I realise you're suggesting university students do these  
projects pro-bono - which is fantastic. Finding such projects requires  
time and energy, though, and it seems the onus is on universities to  
source them (that's the impression I got for my final year project).
* Ideally, you need someone who is already connecting with the NGOs,  
and then push the idea of pro-bono projects at them. I wouldn't expect  
open-sourcing such things to be a sticking point (although  
universities might). I was able to do a handful of websites for NGOs  
in Cambodia because one of my best friends was working with one, and  
knew people at others.

With that said, I've not dealt with any NGOs in Australia - my  
knowledge of World Vision is purely through friends who have worked  
there. Pete Yandell and Mike Bailey might be better sources (both of  
whom you may have met at Rails Camp?) - Pete does some great work for  
the refugee support group in Melbourne, and Mike was a driver behind  
setting up a website for dogs needing temporary homes after the  
bushfires in February.

 From a less tech perspective, both Ross Hill (Geelong) and Steve  
Hopkins (Melbourne) are tech-savvy young entrepreneurs not too long  
out of Uni, so may have some connections to make such projects happen.  
Steve has also spent some time at World Vision.

On a more generic note, Kiva has recently opened up an API to their  
micro-finance service, which would be something awesome to integrate  
into a web application, should you find a viable connection. A local  
alternative for e-commerce sites is the Footprints API, which you can  
siphon off a small percentage off of transactions and direct them to  
charities.

Pete Yandell: http://notahat.com/
Mike Bailey: http://www.bailey.net.au/
Ross Hill: http://www.rosshill.com.au/
Steve Hopkins: http://www.thesquigglyline.com/blog/
Kiva API: http://build.kiva.org/
Footprints: http://www.footprints.org.au/

Cheers

--
Pat

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Ryan Cross  
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From: Ryan Cross <ryanecr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:12:14 +1000
Local: Mon, Jul 6 2009 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Charitable Software Projects
I work primarly in open source and also just finished a research
degree, so I will jet quickly point out civicrm (crm aimed at npo
specific needs) and sahara (open source disaster management platform)

also, I am always glad to see students wanting to make their time
useful but I would point out that there are actually lots of
academic/research code that ends up being open sourced. Happy to point
out more if you are keen

-Ryan


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Sam Lai  
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From: Sam Lai <samuel....@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:19:50 +1000
Local: Mon, Jul 6 2009 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Charitable Software Projects
Ryan, do you have a link for sahara, the open source disaster
management platform? My quick google searches aren't turning up
anything useful.

2009/7/6 Ryan Cross <ryanecr...@gmail.com>:


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Ryan Cross  
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From: Ryan Cross <ryanecr...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:53:25 +1000
Local: Wed, Jul 8 2009 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Charitable Software Projects

Hey Sam,
Sorry for the typo - its sahana - http://www.sahana.lk/

-Ryan


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Dylan Jay  
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From: Dylan Jay <d...@pretaweb.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:40:57 +1000
Local: Wed, Jul 8 2009 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Charitable Software Projects
Another take on this would be to work with companies that create  
solutions for NGOs and work with them to get real requirements. These  
companies don't do charity work but they do specialise in NGO's as  
their cliental so would understand gaps where software could and  
should be created.
An example of such a company that we have relations with is http://www.onenw.org/

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Jason Held  
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From: Jason Held <jheld6...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 9 2009 10:53 am
Subject: Re: Charitable Software Projects
On a similar note...

The Mars Society International, a non-profit science and outreach
organization, has an immediate need for anyone with Drupal experience.

They have a research base near the north pole which simulates living
and working on Mars.  This year's team is fairly high profile,
consisting of a mix of NASA JPL, industry, and academic leaders.  The
team arrived a few days ago, and will be going into the full
simulation either today or tomorrow.  There are two "Mission Support"
teams (similar to "mission control").  One is in Denver USA, the other
is here in Sydney to provide 24-hour operational coverage.  Mission
Support has been tasked to take the myriad of reports and science data
and post it to the Drupal website (http://www.fmars2009.org/).

It's a volunteer organization ("All work, No pay, Eternal Glory"), and
is well known within the scientific and space engineering communites.
If you have Drupal skills it's a great opportunity to do some real
good work for good guys doing some very interesting things.  And it's
available right away.  If you are interested and have the skills
contact me asap.

Jason Held
0433-178-740
jheld6...@gmail.com

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Jonathan Clarke  
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From: Jonathan Clarke <clarke.jonat...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:07:41 +1000
Local: Thurs, Jul 9 2009 12:07 pm
Subject: Fwd: [SiliconBeach] Re: Charitable Software Projects
Hi all,

Thanks so much for such a great response.  I've since been in touch
with a Nepalese NGO to design a system which suits their unique
situation.  Currently the NGO is mentoring women and children from a
very abusive backgrounds and has been teaching them new skills which
they can use to provide for their families.  Much of these skills seem
to be developing various craft items which they then sell back to the
charity who then sells them from various  utlets throughout the
country.

The lack of electricity and Internet access has created a unique
situation within their organization and they are finding that it is
often impractical to have an e-commerce solution hosting their wares
as they are unable to access the system due to lack of Internet most
days and a lack of electricity.  It is a common situation that many
organizations face in the developing world.  Within Nepal, load
shedding up to 20 hours was recently recorded and this can often make
business impractical if not downright impossible.

My thesis is going to revolve around a simple yet expandable on-line
marketplace which can be set up quite easily for the non-technical
workers within these organizations.  This is only part of the plan as
having a hosted solution does not combat the issues they are
experiencing.

Through downloading a seperate application, my end goal is to provide
an exact replica system which can allow for these charities to work
off-line without any Internet access; think Google Gears but for
commerce.  The application will synchronize updated orders, product
inventories, etc, once a network connection is established.  This way,
work can continue both offline/online.  The system will be free to use
for any charitable institutions.

Now this is not an incredibly technically difficult application
compared to some of the projects I have tackled in the past number of
years (Location Applications GPS/ JXTA P2P (2005); Ericsson AXE
interface (2003)), but this time around I prefer to build a system
that will actually be used.  It will require a lot of liaising with
NGO stakeholders just to get their requirements right.

Unfortunately I am not allowed to collaborate with any other
developers on this application as it must be 100% of my own work and
research.  The solution will not be unveiled until after my thesis has
been submitted which is mid August 2010.  The proposal is being
submitted in September 2009 and has not yet been approved.  I shall be
aiming at expanding the number of charities for the initial beta so if
you know of any who may be interested please don't hesitate to get in
touch.

If you have any questions I'd be delighted to hear from you and thanks
once again for your wonderful feedback above.

Kind regards,

Jonathan Clarke


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