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From: drew bloode <colt...@hotmail.com>
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Why don't DVD's/itunes/inflight have whether or not there are subtitles lis=
ted on the description. Its becoming common for this not to be listed on t=
he cover, which makes it impossible to determine wheter or not we are wasti=
ng our money on something we cant watch.
=20
Would anyone be interested in a google group (and possibly emails etc to th=
e companies distributors and studios that are not including subtitles), so =
that there is a list of offenders, and include stuff like "worst subtitles"=
"worst typos" "lips don't match sound offenders" that's a pet hate. Also =
a list of shows like law & order that use alot of face shots or other techn=
iques which make it easier to follow what they are saying.
=20
Is there anything out there like a cd which can show everyone what it is li=
ke to have a hearing loss (TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT IT IS NOT LIKE TURNING TH=
E BLOODY VOLUME DOWN, AND THAT TURNING THE TV UP DOESN'T HELP), or any info=
on those that have lost their middle range and how that effects us (both e=
ars) with balance and other stuff that people just don't get, coz I've trie=
d hearing aids (they just make the crap I don't want to hear louder, drowni=
ng out what I need to hear????), and advice for coping with noisy places li=
ke shopping centres and schools where I feel like im in a massive whirlwind=
and after an hour I'm having a meltdown for no reason.
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Also whilst I'm at it, I have a 5 year old (perfect hearing) who because I =
cant hear the difference between many sounds hasn't learnt to make those so=
unds. He has a speech therapist, but she doesn't really understand that I =
cannot hear ANY difference between Chair and Care or Kip and Tip, etc altho=
ugh I can make the sounds, or I think I can?, hee he.
=20
cheers
drew
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> From: ami...@iinet.net.au
> To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com
> Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Inflight experiences - seeking your com=
ment
> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:12:40 +1000
>=20
>=20
> Hi Nicole,
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> I'd love to see improvements for HOH on board planes.
>=20
> All those points mentioned need looking at and procedures put in place fo=
r
> both staff and the HOH to follow when boarding a plane.
>=20
> Mostly would love to see captioning on programs/movies as often I can't
> follow the movie and end up very bored or just reading.
>=20
> With the safety demos I found that I've always had to have a read through
> the pamphlet they give you because I can't always follow the demo, can on=
ly
> see them waving their arms around! And often the seats are too high and
> can't see over them anyway to follow the demo. Hehe
>=20
> Also, the travelling with carers is a big one for me, I don't like to tra=
vel
> alone, just in case I miss some important emergency instruction while I'm=
on
> board the plane, I get very anxious if there was to be an emergency
> situation and had to act quickly that I would be lost as the airline
> attendants aren't aware of my hearing loss.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Scrnuch.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com [mailto:SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of s...@netspace.net.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 9:54 AM
> To: SHHH Support Group (Self Help for Hard of Hearing People)
> Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Inflight experiences - seeking your comment
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Hi SHHH Googlegroupers,
>=20
> An update from Deafness Forum-
>=20
> Deafness Forum participates in a working group where we are working with
> government, airline and airport industry representatives to improve aviat=
ion
> access for people who are Deaf, Deafblind, have a hearing impairment, or =
a
> chronic disorder of the ear.
>=20
> We are seeking your comments on in flight travel (that is when you get on
> the plane, not about the airport itself) for some upcoming meetings in Ju=
ly.
>=20
>=20
> This might include
> - captioning of programs/movies
> - safety demos/explanations
> - emergency instructions
> - assistance animals
> - exit row seating
> - travelling with carers or independently
> - communication with flight attendants
> - other alerts or information on board that you cannot hear
> - other
>=20
> If you have any examples, good or bad, of in flight experiences, please l=
et
> me know by 7 July 2009.
>=20
> We are covering airports in a separate meeting and I can seek feedback ab=
out
> that another time. Please limit your comments only to when you are on boa=
rd
> the plane.
>=20
> Please feel free to pass this message on to others who might have an
> interest in providing comments.
>=20
> I hope to hear from you so we can try to improve the in flight experience=
in
> future.
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> Nicole Lawder
> Chief Executive Officer
> Deafness Forum of Australia
>=20
> 218 Northbourne Avenue
> Braddon ACT 2612
>=20
> phone 02 6262 7808
> TTY 02 6262 7809
> Fax 02 6262 7810
> Mob 0404 037 177
>=20
> email nicole.law...@deafnessforum.org.au
>=20
> www.deafnessforum.org.au
> www.hearingawarenessweek.org.au
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >=20
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Why don't DVD's/itunes/inflight have whether or not there are subtitle=
s listed on the description. Its becoming common for this not to=
be listed on the cover, which makes it impossible to determine wheter=
or not we are wasting our money on something we cant watch.<BR>
<BR>
Would anyone be interested in a google group (and possibly emails etc to th=
e companies distributors and studios that are not including subtitles)=
, so that there is a list of offenders, and include stuff like&nb=
sp;"worst subtitles" "worst typos" "lips don't match sound offenders" that'=
s a pet hate. Also a list of shows like law & order tha=
t use alot of face shots or other techniques which make it easier to f=
ollow what they are saying.<BR>
<BR>
Is there anything out there like a cd which can show everyone wha=
t it is like to have a hearing loss (TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT IT IS NOT LIKE =
TURNING THE BLOODY VOLUME DOWN, AND THAT TURNING THE TV UP DOESN'T HELP),&n=
bsp;or any info on those that have lost their middle range and how tha=
t effects us (both ears) with balance and other stuff that people just don'=
t get, coz I've tried hearing aids (they just make the crap I don't want to=
hear louder, drowning out what I need to hear????), and advice for coping =
with noisy places like shopping centres and schools where I feel like im in=
a massive whirlwind and after an hour I'm having a meltdown for no re=
ason.<BR>
<BR>
Also whilst I'm at it, I have a 5 year old (perfect hearing) who because I =
cant hear the difference between many sounds hasn't learnt to make those so=
unds. He has a speech therapist, but she doesn't really understand th=
at I cannot hear ANY difference between Chair and Care or Kip and Tip, etc =
although I can make the sounds, or I think I can?, hee he.<BR>
<BR>
cheers<BR>
drew<BR> <BR>> From: ami...@iinet.net.au<BR>> To: SHHHgroups@goo=
glegroups.com<BR>> Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Inflight experience=
s - seeking your comment<BR>> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:12:40 +1000<BR>&=
gt; <BR>> <BR>> Hi Nicole,<BR>> <BR>> I'd love to see improveme=
nts for HOH on board planes.<BR>> <BR>> All those points mentioned ne=
ed looking at and procedures put in place for<BR>> both staff and the HO=
H to follow when boarding a plane.<BR>> <BR>> Mostly would love to se=
e captioning on programs/movies as often I can't<BR>> follow the movie a=
nd end up very bored or just reading.<BR>> <BR>> With the safety demo=
s I found that I've always had to have a read through<BR>> the pamphlet =
they give you because I can't always follow the demo, can only<BR>> see =
them waving their arms around! And often the seats are too high and<BR>>=
can't see over them anyway to follow the demo. Hehe<BR>> <BR>> Also,=
the travelling with carers is a big one for me, I don't like to travel<BR>=
> alone, just in case I miss some important emergency instruction while =
I'm on<BR>> board the plane, I get very anxious if there was to be an em=
ergency<BR>> situation and had to act quickly that I would be lost as th=
e airline<BR>> attendants aren't aware of my hearing loss.<BR>> <BR>&=
gt; Thanks,<BR>> Scrnuch.<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR=
>> From: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com [mailto:SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com=
] On<BR>> Behalf Of s...@netspace.net.au<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 June =
2009 9:54 AM<BR>> To: SHHH Support Group (Self Help for Hard of Hearing =
People)<BR>> Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Inflight experiences - seekin=
g your comment<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hi SHHH Googlegroupers,<B=
R>> <BR>> An update from Deafness Forum-<BR>> <BR>> Deafness Fo=
rum participates in a working group where we are working with<BR>> gover=
nment, airline and airport industry representatives to improve aviation<BR>=
> access for people who are Deaf, Deafblind, have a hearing impairment, =
or a<BR>> chronic disorder of the ear.<BR>> <BR>> We are seeking y=
our comments on in flight travel (that is when you get on<BR>> the plane=
, not about the airport itself) for some upcoming meetings in July.<BR>>=
<BR>> <BR>> This might include<BR>> - captioning of programs/movi=
es<BR>> - safety demos/explanations<BR>> - emergency instructions<BR>=
> - assistance animals<BR>> - exit row seating<BR>> - travelling w=
ith carers or independently<BR>> - communication with flight attendants<=
BR>> - other alerts or information on board that you cannot hear<BR>>=
- other<BR>> <BR>> If you have any examples, good or bad, of in flig=
ht experiences, please let<BR>> me know by 7 July 2009.<BR>> <BR>>=
We are covering airports in a separate meeting and I can seek feedback abo=
ut<BR>> that another time. Please limit your comments only to when you a=
re on board<BR>> the plane.<BR>> <BR>> Please feel free to pass th=
is message on to others who might have an<BR>> interest in providing com=
ments.<BR>> <BR>> I hope to hear from you so we can try to improve th=
e in flight experience in<BR>> future.<BR>> <BR>> Regards<BR>> =
<BR>> Nicole Lawder<BR>> Chief Executive Officer<BR>> Deafness For=
um of Australia<BR>> <BR>> 218 Northbourne Avenue<BR>> Braddon ACT=
2612<BR>> <BR>> phone 02 6262 7808<BR>> TTY 02 6262 7809<BR>> =
Fax 02 6262 7810<BR>> Mob 0404 037 177<BR>> <BR>> email nicole.law=
d...@deafnessforum.org.au<BR>> <BR>> www.deafnessforum.org.au<BR>> =
www.hearingawarenessweek.org.au<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> </html>
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