BTE Bi-cross hering aids. I've
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them at all. I'e tried just one hearing aid for my working ear, but
not very effective, only effective with the bi-cross. They're an
ugly pair and I'd love to replace them with more modern, less noticeable
pair, however I don't thing bi-cross has evolved too much over the last
few years...
JJ
Jason Tyler
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Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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I have phonak BTE bicros aid which means that my left ear which is completely dead has a microphone and the right has a normal aid with a receiver than recieves what the microphone picks up it then amplifies it like a normal hearing aid would and the T-switch setting is in the same setting as the microphone so if I use my FM system to hear choir or my viola then I also hear through the Hearing aid as well whcih find very useful. I have had them since mid 2007 when my centrelink DSP came through, I have been deaf since october 2006. They are free aids on the government hearing services voucher. I think they are good and because I like this type of aid in comparison to just having one in my good ear and nothing in the dead ear I dont think I could get anything that was worth paying a 'top up' for. However because of my hearing loss I need to use my FM system for just about everything. I love it. A hearing aid alone is not enough for me. also for some reason music sounds heaps better through the FM system rather than through my hearing aids. (I am in a choir, play viola/violin and before becoming wheelchair bound was in an orchestra which unfortunately rehearse up a set of stairs with no disabled access.) I will keep using them until the audi thinks I need a new pair or they break. I guess new technology my improve the bicros aids that are available.
How long can hearing aids last for?
Good luck in your search Judy. I hope you find better aids that you like.
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That's very interesting regarding your
BTE Bicros, it sounds like you have the same as I do. Can you tell
me more about the FM system, how it works, etc? I agree with you
- I much prefer the bi-cros system where it tranmits sound from my dead
(right) ear to my good ear, rather than just one on my good ear (I've tried
this, and it works no where near as effectively as having one on both ears).
It was a pleasure reading what you had
written Erin, very inspirational,
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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I have phonak BTE bicros aid which means that my left ear which is
completely dead has a microphone and the right has a normal aid with a
receiver than recieves what the microphone picks up it then amplifies it
like a normal hearing aid would and the T-switch setting is in the same
setting as the microphone so if I use my FM system to hear choir
or my
viola then I also hear through the Hearing aid as well whcih find
very
useful. I have had them since mid 2007 when my centrelink DSP came through,
I have been deaf since october 2006. They are free aids on the government
hearing services voucher. I think they are good and because I like this
type
of aid in comparison to just having one in my good ear and nothing in the
dead ear I dont think I could get anything that was worth paying a 'top
up'
for. However because of my hearing loss I need to use my FM system for
just
about everything. I love it. A hearing aid alone is not enough for me.
also
for some reason music sounds heaps better through the FM system rather
than
through my hearing aids. (I am in a choir, play viola/violin and before
becoming wheelchair bound was in an orchestra which unfortunately rehearse
up a set of stairs with no disabled access.) I will keep using them until
the audi thinks I need a new pair or they break. I guess new technology
my
improve the bicros aids that are available.
How long can hearing aids last for?
Good luck in your search Judy. I hope you find better aids that you like.
Erin
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BTE Bi-cross hering aids. I've had them for the last 3 years. They're okay, better than not having them at all. I'e tried just one hearing aid for my working ear, but not very effective, only effective with the bi-cross. They're an ugly pair and I'd love to replace them with more modern, less noticeable pair, however I don't thing bi-cross has evolved too much over the last few years...
JJ
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An FM system has two components a transmitter and a reciever. The transmitter has a microphone which can be placed in front of TV, choir, on my instrument or given to a person this transmits to the reciever which picks up the sound either through headphones or through an induction plate or loop which you wear round your neck or which goes behind the hearing aid on the t-switch (telecoil) program or if your hearing aid is set up like mine the telecoil and microphone program are the same switch so as I said I get the sound from the bicros plus the sound from the FM system. I am borrowing one from TAFE a very old but very good system that I really like. A newer one is the phonak smart link one which has three levels of mic buit into the transmitter omni-dir, directional and superdirectional. This also apparently has the ability to have the reciever attached to the microphone part of the bicrosaid meaning that there is no loop/plate (not that its that bad you can put it under a jumper and noone knows its there.) It just means its more discreet. Anyway only problem is they cost about $2000. This is what I am saving for especially since I wont have the TAFE one forvever. I hope this helps. let me know if you want more info.
Erin
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Hi Erin,
That's very interesting regarding your BTE Bicros, it sounds like you have the same as I do. Can you tell me more about the FM system, how it works, etc? I agree with you - I much prefer the bi-cros system where it tranmits sound from my dead (right) ear to my good ear, rather than just one on my good ear (I've tried this, and it works no where near as effectively as having one on both ears).
It was a pleasure reading what you had written Erin, very inspirational,
JJ
Jason Tyler
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I have phonak BTE bicros aid which means that my left ear which is completely dead has a microphone and the right has a normal aid with a receiver than recieves what the microphone picks up it then amplifies it like a normal hearing aid would and the T-switch setting is in the same setting as the microphone so if I use my FM system to hear choir or my viola then I also hear through the Hearing aid as well whcih find very useful. I have had them since mid 2007 when my centrelink DSP came through, I have been deaf since october 2006. They are free aids on the government hearing services voucher. I think they are good and because I like this type of aid in comparison to just having one in my good ear and nothing in the dead ear I dont think I could get anything that was worth paying a 'top up' for. However because of my hearing loss I need to use my FM system for just about everything. I love it. A hearing aid alone is not enough for me. also for some reason music sounds heaps better through the FM system rather than through my hearing aids. (I am in a choir, play viola/violin and before becoming wheelchair bound was in an orchestra which unfortunately rehearse up a set of stairs with no disabled access.) I will keep using them until the audi thinks I need a new pair or they break. I guess new technology my improve the bicros aids that are available.
How long can hearing aids last for?
Good luck in your search Judy. I hope you find better aids that you like.
Erin
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Hi Erin, they are Phonak bicros hearing
aids. Sorry, what does "HA" stand for?
JJ
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What type are they? I have the same type
of HA you're the first person I've met with BTE bicros!
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BTE Bi-cross hering aids. I've had them for the last 3 years. They're
okay, better than not having them at all. I'e tried just one hearing
aid for my working ear, but not very effective, only effective with the
bi-cross. They're an ugly pair and I'd love to replace them with
more modern, less noticeable pair, however I don't thing bi-cross has evolved
too much over the last few years...
JJ
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Very interesting Erin. It's amazing
how hearing aids and hearing aid components cost so much money for something
so small, yet I can go out and by a 42 inch LCD tv for a quarter of the
price of a hearing aid. Thanks for feedback on an FM system. I
can understand why you find it so useful, however I think I would live
okay without one (I'm not a musician, although love listening to music),
JJ
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and a reciever. The transmitter has a microphone which can be placed in
front of TV, choir, on my instrument or given to a person this transmits
to the reciever which picks up the sound either through headphones or through
an induction plate or loop which you wear round your neck or which goes
behind the hearing aid on the t-switch (telecoil) program or if your hearing
aid is set up like mine the telecoil and microphone program are the same
switch so as I said I get the sound from the bicros plus the sound from
the FM system. I am borrowing one from TAFE a very old but very good system
that I really like. A newer one is the phonak smart link one which has
three levels of mic buit into the transmitter omni-dir, directional and
superdirectional. This also apparently has the ability to have the reciever
attached to the microphone part of the bicrosaid meaning that there is
no loop/plate (not that its that bad you can put it under a jumper and
noone knows its there.) It just means its more discreet. Anyway only problem
is they cost about $2000. This is what I am saving for especially since
I wont have the TAFE one forvever. I hope this helps. let me know if you
want more info.
Erin
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Hi Erin,
That's very interesting regarding your BTE Bicros, it sounds like you have
the same as I do. Can you tell me more about the FM system, how it
works, etc? I agree with you - I much prefer the bi-cros system where
it tranmits sound from my dead (right) ear to my good ear, rather than
just one on my good ear (I've tried this, and it works no where near as
effectively as having one on both ears).
It was a pleasure reading what you had written Erin, very inspirational,
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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I have phonak BTE bicros aid which means that my left ear which is
completely dead has a microphone and the right has a normal aid with a
receiver than recieves what the microphone picks up it then amplifies it
like a normal hearing aid would and the T-switch setting is in the same
setting as the microphone so if I use my FM system to hear choir
or my
viola then I also hear through the Hearing aid as well whcih find
very
useful. I have had them since mid 2007 when my centrelink DSP came through,
I have been deaf since october 2006. They are free aids on the government
hearing services voucher. I think they are good and because I like this
type
of aid in comparison to just having one in my good ear and nothing in the
dead ear I dont think I could get anything that was worth paying a 'top
up'
for. However because of my hearing loss I need to use my FM system for
just
about everything. I love it. A hearing aid alone is not enough for me.
also
for some reason music sounds heaps better through the FM system rather
than
through my hearing aids. (I am in a choir, play viola/violin and before
becoming wheelchair bound was in an orchestra which unfortunately rehearse
up a set of stairs with no disabled access.) I will keep using them until
the audi thinks I need a new pair or they break. I guess new technology
my
improve the bicros aids that are available.
How long can hearing aids last for?
Good luck in your search Judy. I hope you find better aids that you like.
Erin
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hearing aids sorry for acronymns! We probably have the same ones!! apparently my audi says that people with one dead ear either love bicros or hate it. I love it and only really discovered this when mine went in for repairs and I had a borrowed one from the audi just for my good ear. I hated it. Anyway at least that meant I had the right pair for me. I orginially had a different branded HA but because I was looking into getting the receiver for them that I mentioned they said the phonak ones would be better. Erin
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Hi Erin, they are Phonak bicros hearing aids. Sorry, what does "HA" stand for?
JJ
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BTE Bi-cross hering aids. I've had them for the last 3 years. They're okay, better than not having them at all. I'e tried just one hearing aid for my working ear, but not very effective, only effective with the bi-cross. They're an ugly pair and I'd love to replace them with more modern, less noticeable pair, however I don't thing bi-cross has evolved too much over the last few years...
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That's fair enough. One thing I should mention though FM systems are not designed for what I have been using it for they are designed for speech like in a meeting you can put the microphone in the middle of the table and it picks up everyone around the table or for studying or at school the teacher or lecturer wears it and you can hear what they're saying. I am probably the only musician that uses an FM system in this way. I am on another list the association for adult musicians with a hearing loss (AAMHL) run from the US and there are other string players and singers who do not do what I do. I learnt to do it by trial and error. I am in Adelaide and there is a place here run from the guide dogs called hearing solutions and they have lip reading classes and also one on one information about telephones, hearing the TV, and Assistive listening devices (of which an FM system) is one and when I saw it for the first time before I got my HAs I said to the lady helping me wow I can actually hear you but could I use this with my viola? I thought I might have to give it up you see. Anyway she said the only way to find out is to try and they let me try it out for a couple of weeks for free. and I fell in love with it. My teacher thought my tuning improved immensely plus I was able to hear the TV and put it in front of the stereo and listen to it at the other end of the house. It also worked for choir (at the time I was in two and then later three and now one) I was so happy but we couldn't afford it. anyway awhile later after borrowing it twice from hearing solutions and then the other model from my audi to see the difference I decided I could not live without it. when I started TAFE and found out I could borrow one so I could hear the videoconferences and keep it in between lectures I was over the moon. Plus I know the disability officer cause she worked at Adelaide Uni and when she heard the financial predicament we were in she let me keep it over christmas twice now. I have even got sick and been unable to study and they have let me keep it. Anyway I am just lucky eventually I will have to get my own. You can even get models where there are more than one transmitter so I could put one on one side of the choir and one on the other thus getting a better range etc. Thats what I would love. Its also great for hearing the conductor so you know where you are going from.
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Very interesting Erin. It's amazing how hearing aids and hearing aid components cost so much money for something so small, yet I can go out and by a 42 inch LCD tv for a quarter of the price of a hearing aid. Thanks for feedback on an FM system. I can understand why you find it so useful, however I think I would live okay without one (I'm not a musician, although love listening to music),
JJ
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An FM system has two components a transmitter and a reciever. The transmitter has a microphone which can be placed in front of TV, choir, on my instrument or given to a person this transmits to the reciever which picks up the sound either through headphones or through an induction plate or loop which you wear round your neck or which goes behind the hearing aid on the t-switch (telecoil) program or if your hearing aid is set up like mine the telecoil and microphone program are the same switch so as I said I get the sound from the bicros plus the sound from the FM system. I am borrowing one from TAFE a very old but very good system that I really like. A newer one is the phonak smart link one which has three levels of mic buit into the transmitter omni-dir, directional and superdirectional. This also apparently has the ability to have the reciever attached to the microphone part of the bicrosaid meaning that there is no loop/plate (not that its that bad you can put it under a jumper and noone knows its there.) It just means its more discreet. Anyway only problem is they cost about $2000. This is what I am saving for especially since I wont have the TAFE one forvever. I hope this helps. let me know if you want more info. Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Hi Erin,
That's very interesting regarding your BTE Bicros, it sounds like you have the same as I do. Can you tell me more about the FM system, how it works, etc? I agree with you - I much prefer the bi-cros system where it tranmits sound from my dead (right) ear to my good ear, rather than just one on my good ear (I've tried this, and it works no where near as effectively as having one on both ears).
It was a pleasure reading what you had written Erin, very inspirational,
JJ
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I have phonak BTE bicros aid which means that my left ear which is completely dead has a microphone and the right has a normal aid with a receiver than recieves what the microphone picks up it then amplifies it like a normal hearing aid would and the T-switch setting is in the same setting as the microphone so if I use my FM system to hear choir or my viola then I also hear through the Hearing aid as well whcih find very useful. I have had them since mid 2007 when my centrelink DSP came through, I have been deaf since october 2006. They are free aids on the government hearing services voucher. I think they are good and because I like this type of aid in comparison to just having one in my good ear and nothing in the dead ear I dont think I could get anything that was worth paying a 'top up' for. However because of my hearing loss I need to use my FM system for just about everything. I love it. A hearing aid alone is not enough for me. also for some reason music sounds heaps better through the FM system rather than through my hearing aids. (I am in a choir, play viola/violin and before becoming wheelchair bound was in an orchestra which unfortunately rehearse up a set of stairs with no disabled access.) I will keep using them until the audi thinks I need a new pair or they break. I guess new technology my improve the bicros aids that are available.
How long can hearing aids last for?
Good luck in your search Judy. I hope you find better aids that you like.
Erin
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Hi Erin, I should have worked that out
myself (HA for Hearing Aid), good acronymn. At the moment my receiver
side isn't working, so until I can get it repaired I've tried just using
the one for my good ear, and I hate it too. If I can't have both
sides, then I prefer not to have it on at all. Given the fact it's
been three years since I originally purchased mine, I'm looking around
to see if technology has improved for bicros hearing aids, as to
be honest I hate the look of mine. I tried a more modern one a couple
of months ago, which was quite good, but unfortunately not bicros. Like
you said, people either love bicros or hate it, apparently most people
hate it, so they haven't really invested much into imrpoving bicros technology.
You probably know a lot more about hearing technology than I do,
but I'll let you know if I come across anything in my quest - JJ
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hearing aids sorry for acronymns! We probably
have the same ones!! apparently my audi says that people with one dead
ear either love bicros or hate it. I love it and only really discovered
this when mine went in for repairs and I had a borrowed one from the audi
just for my good ear. I hated it. Anyway at least that meant I had the
right pair for me. I orginially had a different branded HA but because
I was looking into getting the receiver for them that I mentioned they
said the phonak ones would be better.
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Hi Erin, they are Phonak bicros hearing aids. Sorry, what does "HA"
stand for?
JJ
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What type are they? I have the same type of HA you're the first person
I've met with BTE bicros!
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BTE Bi-cross hering aids. I've had them for the last 3 years. They're
okay, better than not having them at all. I'e tried just one hearing
aid for my working ear, but not very effective, only effective with the
bi-cross. They're an ugly pair and I'd love to replace them with
more modern, less noticeable pair, however I don't thing bi-cross has evolved
too much over the last few years...
JJ
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Thanks Erin, that gives me a better
understanding of how FM systems are useful. My hearing probably isn't
to the extent that I would need an FM system in conjunction to HAs. I
hear okay without HAs, but I miss a lot. Even having them on doesn't
exacttly make it perfect, but I do hear a lot more. I think my hearing
is deterioriating though, probably more so over the last 3 months or so.
I can see how an FM system would be useful in a meeting or a conference
though, but they are expensive. Your comment regarding how your FM
system helps to tune your violin better made me think how when I where
my bicros, my balance and co-ordination improves immensely, and I speak
more clearly. The one thing it doesn't help me to do though is knowing
which direction sound is coming from ...
JJ
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That's fair enough. One thing I should mention
though FM systems are not designed for what I have been using it for they
are designed for speech like in a meeting you can put the microphone in
the middle of the table and it picks up everyone around the table or for
studying or at school the teacher or lecturer wears it and you can hear
what they're saying. I am probably the only musician that uses an FM system
in this way. I am on another list the association for adult musicians with
a hearing loss (AAMHL) run from the US and there are other string players
and singers who do not do what I do. I learnt to do it by trial and error.
I am in Adelaide and there is a place here run from the guide dogs called
hearing solutions and they have lip reading classes and also one on one
information about telephones, hearing the TV, and Assistive listening devices
(of which an FM system) is one and when I saw it for the first time before
I got my HAs I said to the lady helping me wow I can actually hear you
but could I use this with my viola? I thought I might have to give it up
you see. Anyway she said the only way to find out is to try and they let
me try it out for a couple of weeks for free. and I fell in love with it.
My teacher thought my tuning improved immensely plus I was able to hear
the TV and put it in front of the stereo and listen to it at the other
end of the house. It also worked for choir (at the time I was in two and
then later three and now one) I was so happy but we couldn't afford it.
anyway awhile later after borrowing it twice from hearing solutions
and then the other model from my audi to see the difference I decided I
could not live without it. when I started TAFE and found out I could borrow
one so I could hear the videoconferences and keep it in between lectures
I was over the moon. Plus I know the disability officer cause she worked
at Adelaide Uni and when she heard the financial predicament we were in
she let me keep it over christmas twice now. I have even got sick and been
unable to study and they have let me keep it. Anyway I am just lucky eventually
I will have to get my own. You can even get models where there are more
than one transmitter so I could put one on one side of the choir and one
on the other thus getting a better range etc. Thats what I would love.
Its also great for hearing the conductor so you know where you are going
from.
Erin
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Very interesting Erin. It's amazing how hearing aids and hearing
aid components cost so much money for something so small, yet I can go
out and by a 42 inch LCD tv for a quarter of the price of a hearing aid.
Thanks for feedback on an FM system. I can understand why you
find it so useful, however I think I would live okay without one (I'm not
a musician, although love listening to music),
JJ
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An FM system has two components a transmitter and a reciever. The transmitter
has a microphone which can be placed in front of TV, choir, on my instrument
or given to a person this transmits to the reciever which picks up the
sound either through headphones or through an induction plate or loop which
you wear round your neck or which goes behind the hearing aid on the t-switch
(telecoil) program or if your hearing aid is set up like mine the telecoil
and microphone program are the same switch so as I said I get the sound
from the bicros plus the sound from the FM system. I am borrowing one from
TAFE a very old but very good system that I really like. A newer one is
the phonak smart link one which has three levels of mic buit into the transmitter
omni-dir, directional and superdirectional. This also apparently has the
ability to have the reciever attached to the microphone part of the bicrosaid
meaning that there is no loop/plate (not that its that bad you can put
it under a jumper and noone knows its there.) It just means its more discreet.
Anyway only problem is they cost about $2000. This is what I am saving
for especially since I wont have the TAFE one forvever. I hope this helps.
let me know if you want more info.
Erin
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Hi Erin,
That's very interesting regarding your BTE Bicros, it sounds like you have
the same as I do. Can you tell me more about the FM system, how it
works, etc? I agree with you - I much prefer the bi-cros system where
it tranmits sound from my dead (right) ear to my good ear, rather than
just one on my good ear (I've tried this, and it works no where near as
effectively as having one on both ears).
It was a pleasure reading what you had written Erin, very
...
Thats interesting my balance (before I ended up in a wheelchair) and coordination are bad whether I wear them or not - I had to use a walking stick to help me - at my balance physios idea. Actually it usually was heaps worse at night in the dark so bad that I often had to get my husband to help me from the car to the house. Being in a wheelchair I haven't had to worry about that except when I transfer. I guess I speak clearer with them in but my husband still complains that he cant understand me. I think my hearing has deteriorated too, I haven't had a test for about 12 months. I guess I will have to have another one soonish and see where I am at. It was worse last year from the previous test and when I asked the audi whether they thought I would be able to tell the difference with that small amount they said cause I only had 1 good ear that it would make enough difference for me to notice, so they turned up the volume of the mic and t-switch settings of the HA and put them in the same setting which at first confused me and then when I got used to it I liked it. I really can't be without the FM system I hate missing things especially when people say it doesn't matter or dont worry about it. I hate not knowing what direction the sound is coming from especially when crossing the road. One day I would love to apply for a hearing dog then they would be able to help with things like that. There aren't pedestrian crossings at every corner and the road we live on is quite busy cause a bus goes on it and its heaps hard to cross.
From Erin
I think the reason why I hjave been able to continue with viola since I got deaf and in a wheelchair is because my teacher has a husband who is deaf (he used to play oboe in the ASO) and she has been heaps understanding of everything that has happened to me.
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Thanks Erin, that gives me a better understanding of how FM systems are useful. My hearing probably isn't to the extent that I would need an FM system in conjunction to HAs. I hear okay without HAs, but I miss a lot. Even having them on doesn't exacttly make it perfect, but I do hear a lot more. I think my hearing is deterioriating though, probably more so over the last 3 months or so. I can see how an FM system would be useful in a meeting or a conference though, but they are expensive. Your comment regarding how your FM system helps to tune your violin better made me think how when I where my bicros, my balance and co-ordination improves immensely, and I speak more clearly. The one thing it doesn't help me to do though is knowing which direction sound is coming from ...
JJ
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That's fair enough. One thing I should mention though FM systems are not designed for what I have been using it for they are designed for speech like in a meeting you can put the microphone in the middle of the table and it picks up everyone around the table or for studying or at school the teacher or lecturer wears it and you can hear what they're saying. I am probably the only musician that uses an FM system in this way. I am on another list the association for adult musicians with a hearing loss (AAMHL) run from the US and there are other string players and singers who do not do what I do. I learnt to do it by trial and error. I am in Adelaide and there is a place here run from the guide dogs called hearing solutions and they have lip reading classes and also one on one information about telephones, hearing the TV, and Assistive listening devices (of which an FM system) is one and when I saw it for the first time before I got my HAs I said to the lady helping me wow I can actually hear you but could I use this with my viola? I thought I might have to give it up you see. Anyway she said the only way to find out is to try and they let me try it out for a couple of weeks for free. and I fell in love with it. My teacher thought my tuning improved immensely plus I was able to hear the TV and put it in front of the stereo and listen to it at the other end of the house. It also worked for choir (at the time I was in two and then later three and now one) I was so happy but we couldn't afford it. anyway awhile later after borrowing it twice from hearing solutions and then the other model from my audi to see the difference I decided I could not live without it. when I started TAFE and found out I could borrow one so I could hear the videoconferences and keep it in between lectures I was over the moon. Plus I know the disability officer cause she worked at Adelaide Uni and when she heard the financial predicament we were in she let me keep it over christmas twice now. I have even got sick and been unable to study and they have let me keep it. Anyway I am just lucky eventually I will have to get my own. You can even get models where there are more than one transmitter so I could put one on one side of the choir and one on the other thus getting a better range etc. Thats what I would love. Its also great for hearing the conductor so you know where you are going from.
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Very interesting Erin. It's amazing how hearing aids and hearing aid components cost so much money for something so small, yet I can go out and by a 42 inch LCD tv for a quarter of the price of a hearing aid. Thanks for feedback on an FM system. I can understand why you find it so useful, however I think I would live okay without one (I'm not a musician, although love listening to music),
JJ
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An FM system has two components a transmitter and a reciever. The transmitter has a microphone which can be placed in front of TV, choir, on my instrument or given to a person this transmits to the reciever which picks up the sound either through headphones or through an induction plate or loop which you wear round your neck or which goes behind the hearing aid on the t-switch (telecoil) program or if your hearing aid is set up like mine the telecoil and microphone program are the same switch so as I said I get the sound from the bicros plus the sound from the FM system. I am borrowing one from TAFE a very old but very good system that I really like. A newer one is the phonak smart link one which has three levels of mic buit into the transmitter omni-dir, directional and superdirectional. This also apparently has the ability to have the reciever attached to the microphone part of the bicrosaid meaning that there is no loop/plate (not that its that bad you can put it under a jumper and noone knows its there.) It just means its more discreet. Anyway only problem is they cost about $2000. This is what I am saving for especially since I wont have the TAFE one forvever. I hope this helps. let me know if you want more info. Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Hi Erin,
That's very interesting regarding your BTE Bicros, it sounds like you have the same as I do. Can you tell me more about the FM system, how it works, etc? I agree with you - I much prefer the bi-cros system where it tranmits sound from my dead (right) ear to my good ear, rather than just one on my good ear (I've tried this, and it works no where near as effectively as having one on both ears).
It was a pleasure reading what you had written Erin, very inspirational,
JJ
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I have phonak BTE bicros aid which means that my left ear which is completely dead has a microphone and the right has a normal aid with a receiver than recieves what the microphone picks up it then amplifies it like a normal
Wow, you've had to go through a lot
Erin. From your emails I admire the fact that you appear to have
a positive outlook and are not letting things like being in a wheelchair
or not being able to hear well stop you from doing things that you enjoy.
I too hate it when people say to me "it doesn't matter"
or "don't worry about it" becasue I haven't heard what they've
said. Can I ask how your hearing impairment has affected your relationship
with your husband? My wife is pretty understanding and supportive
and all that, but I think she does get frustrated at me at times if I don't
hear her, and I get frustrated with her sometimes if I have to ask her
to repeat what she has said, although I generally don't have a problem
hearing her. I do have a lot of problems understanding what my children
are saying at times (especially in the car when I'm driving), and sometimes
I get frustrated when I have to ask them several times what they have said.
Someone in this group also mentioned they had trouble hearing what
children are saying. The other thing I hate is when people talk to
me on my right hand side when they know I'm deaf on that side (if I have
my bicros on this isn't a problem). That's why I hate dinner parties
and stuff like that, where there is a chance that someone could be sitting
on my right side and I won't be able to hear them. If I have my bicros
on it makes it easier, but one thing I've found is that they don't work
that well in noisy places, which is why I generally only wear them at work.
JJ
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Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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Thats interesting my balance (before I ended
up in a wheelchair) and coordination are bad whether I wear them or not
- I had to use a walking stick to help me - at my balance physios idea.
Actually it usually was heaps worse at night in the dark so bad that I
often had to get my husband to help me from the car to the house. Being
in a wheelchair I haven't had to worry about that except when I transfer.
I guess I speak clearer with them in but my husband still complains that
he cant understand me. I think my hearing has deteriorated too, I haven't
had a test for about 12 months. I guess I will have to have another one
soonish and see where I am at. It was worse last year from the previous
test and when I asked the audi whether they thought I would be able
to tell the difference with that small amount they said cause I only had
1 good ear that it would make enough difference for me to notice, so they
turned up the volume of the mic and t-switch settings of the HA and put
them in the same setting which at first confused me and then when I got
used to it I liked it. I really can't be without the FM system I hate missing
things especially when people say it doesn't matter or dont worry about
it. I hate not knowing what direction the sound is coming from especially
when crossing the road. One day I would love to apply for a hearing dog
then they would be able to help with things like that. There aren't pedestrian
crossings at every corner and the road we live on is quite busy cause a
bus goes on it and its heaps hard to cross.
From Erin
I think the reason why I hjave been able
to continue with viola since I got deaf and in a wheelchair is because
my teacher has a husband who is deaf (he used to play oboe in the ASO)
and she has been heaps understanding of everything that has happened to
me.
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Thanks Erin, that gives me a better understanding of how FM systems are
useful. My hearing probably isn't to the extent that I would need
an FM system in conjunction to HAs. I hear okay without HAs, but
I miss a lot. Even having them on doesn't exacttly make it perfect,
but I do hear a lot more. I think my hearing is deterioriating though,
probably more so over the last 3 months or so. I can see how an FM
system would be useful in a meeting or a conference though, but they are
expensive. Your comment regarding how your FM system helps to tune
your violin better made me think how when I where my bicros, my balance
and co-ordination improves immensely, and I speak more clearly. The
one thing it doesn't help me to do though is knowing which direction sound
is coming from ...
JJ
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That's fair enough. One thing I should mention though FM systems are not
designed for what I have been using it for they are designed for speech
like in a meeting you can put the microphone in the middle of the table
and it picks up everyone around the table or for studying or at school
the teacher or lecturer wears it and you can hear what they're saying.
I am probably the only musician that uses an FM system in this way. I am
on another list the association for adult musicians with a hearing loss
(AAMHL) run from the US and there are other string players and singers
who do not do what I do. I learnt to do it by trial and error. I am in
Adelaide and there is a place here run from the guide dogs called hearing
solutions and they have lip reading classes and also one on one information
about telephones, hearing the TV, and Assistive listening devices (of which
an FM system) is one and when I saw it for the first time before I got
my HAs I said to the lady helping me wow I can actually hear you but could
I use this with my viola? I thought I might have to give it up you see.
Anyway she said the only way to find out is to try and they let me try
it out for a couple of weeks for free. and I fell in love with it. My teacher
thought my tuning improved immensely plus I was able to hear the TV and
put it in front of the stereo and listen to it at the other end of the
house. It also worked for choir (at the time I was in two and then later
three and now one) I was so happy but we couldn't afford it. anyway awhile
later after borrowing it twice from hearing solutions and then the
other model from my audi to see the difference I decided I could not live
without it. when I started TAFE and found out I could borrow one so I could
hear the videoconferences
...
Yeah it definately affected our relationship especially when it first happened. I have had one thing happen after another. It has taken awhile but he's OK with it now and has been very supportive. I lost my hearing in 2006 when an ENT dr pulled gromets out to put new ones in causing my ears to bleed which led to a bad infection. He denied that there was anything wrong and I went to a different dr who sent me to an audi which was when I found out that the damage to my left ear was permanent and irreversible. Anyway what really helped was going to hearing solutions which I mentioned earlier - finding the FM system and getting other devices to help me helped our relationship - I use a big button phone which has a special volume control which doesn't blur the sound when it is amplified, I have a vibrating alarm clock and a special smoke alarm which has a vibrating pad and a strobe light, also a doorbell which flashes so if I am watching TV and expecting someone then I can put it on the table in front of me - very useful since I am using access taxis at the moment. The other thing that they do is run a 20 week free speech reading/communication strategy course (in 4 5 week blocks) of which we have done 15 weeks and intend to do the last 5 when I am better health wise. This helped to teach Jeff what it is like to be hearing imparied cause we did the speech reading without voice so everyone was in the same boat of course that is the worst case senario like at a dinner party or restuarant. Things like sitting with your back to a wall (if possible) and away from the kitchen/coffee machines, picking places with good light - those things really help me. Jeff and I both get frustrated about my hearing loss when we are tired that is the worst. And we both forget - dont start conversations from another room and if Ive got the FM system in front of the TV he basically cant talk to me unless we put it on mute. I do find children and women with high voices harder to hear thats cause of the pitch of their voices and also cause children often speak quietly. The car is definately a problem which is another use for the FM system say the kids are int he back and you are in the front well the microphone can be given to them and you can hear whats being said in the back - I did this from Canberra to sydney with my parentsin law in the front and me in the back - Jill spoke into the mic and I could hear her in the back, brian was driving and didn't talk much. Thats another reason why I like to use the FM system in noisy places especially the newer model that has a superdirectional microphone. Its hard when you feel socially isolated because of being hearing impaired and that you have to choose to miss out or go and hope you can hear. At least with HA that arent bicros different settings are available to knock out some of the background noise. Maybe future technology will allow this to happen as well as bicros. I wear mine the whole time I am awake noisy environment or not -only take out for shower and sleep.
I also have tinnitus and it is all the time in my left ear sounds like an off station radio and in my right it comes on and off. I have been told that I have it because of my hearing loss. It usually drives me crazy when it changes noises or when the right ear starts and then stops. I worry that if my right ear gets worse i'll have the amount of noise in my left ear now in the right as well. IK wouldn't be able to hear anything over the top of it - its bad enough as it is. I've asked the audi for help but the sound therapy really didn't help the best thing ive found is to use distraction like having TV or radio on in background.
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Wow, you've had to go through a lot Erin. From your emails I admire the fact that you appear to have a positive outlook and are not letting things like being in a wheelchair or not being able to hear well stop you from doing things that you enjoy. I too hate it when people say to me "it doesn't matter" or "don't worry about it" becasue I haven't heard what they've said. Can I ask how your hearing impairment has affected your relationship with your husband? My wife is pretty understanding and supportive and all that, but I think she does get frustrated at me at times if I don't hear her, and I get frustrated with her sometimes if I have to ask her to repeat what she has said, although I generally don't have a problem hearing her. I do have a lot of problems understanding what my children are saying at times (especially in the car when I'm driving), and sometimes I get frustrated when I have to ask them several times what they have said. Someone in this group also mentioned they had trouble hearing what children are saying. The other thing I hate is when people talk to me on my right hand side when they know I'm deaf on that side (if I have my bicros on this isn't a problem). That's why I hate dinner parties and stuff like that, where there is a chance that someone could be sitting on my right side and I won't be able to hear them. If I have my bicros on it makes it easier, but one thing I've found is that they don't work that well in noisy places, which is why I generally only wear them at work.
JJ
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Thats interesting my balance (before I ended up in a wheelchair) and coordination are bad whether I wear them or not - I had to use a walking stick to help me - at my balance physios idea. Actually it usually was heaps worse at night in the dark so bad that I often had to get my husband to help me from the car to the house. Being in a wheelchair I haven't had to worry about that except when I transfer. I guess I speak clearer with them in but my husband still complains that he cant understand me. I think my hearing has deteriorated too, I haven't had a test for about 12 months. I guess I will have to have another one soonish and see where I am at. It was worse last year from the previous test and when I asked the audi whether they thought I would be able to tell the difference with that small amount they said cause I only had 1 good ear that it would make enough difference for me to notice, so they turned up the volume of the mic and t-switch settings of the HA and put them in the same setting which at first confused me and then when I got used to it I liked it. I really can't be without the FM system I hate missing things especially when people say it doesn't matter or dont worry about it. I hate not knowing what direction the sound is coming from especially when crossing the road. One day I would love to apply for a hearing dog then they would be able to help with things like that. There aren't pedestrian crossings at every corner and the road we live on is quite busy cause a bus goes on it and its heaps hard to cross.
From Erin
I think the reason why I hjave been able to continue with viola since I got deaf and in a wheelchair is because my teacher has a husband who is deaf (he used to play oboe in the ASO) and she has been heaps understanding of everything that has happened to me.
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Thanks Erin, that gives me a better understanding of how FM systems are useful. My hearing probably isn't to the extent that I would need an FM system in conjunction to HAs. I hear okay without HAs, but I miss a lot. Even having them on doesn't exacttly make it perfect, but I do hear a lot more. I think my hearing is deterioriating though, probably more so over the last 3 months or so. I can see how an FM system would be useful in a meeting or a conference though, but they are expensive. Your comment regarding how your FM system helps to tune your violin better made me think how when I where my bicros, my balance and co-ordination improves immensely, and I speak more clearly. The one thing it doesn't help me to do though is knowing which direction sound is coming from ...
JJ
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That's fair enough. One thing I should mention though FM systems are not designed for what I have been using it for they are designed for speech like in a meeting you can put the microphone in the middle of the table and it picks up everyone around the table or for studying or at school the teacher or lecturer wears it and you can hear what they're saying. I am probably the only musician that uses an FM system in this way. I am on
By the sounds of things you have a case
for compensation from the doctor who did your gromets surgery. Was
your hearing fine before the operation? In my case I was born deaf
in my right ear, which apparently happened when the doctor delivering me
used forcepts to yank me out of my mother's ... well you know. I
was apparently bleeding from this ear at birth, and never have been able
to hear out of my right ear. Had I known the damage forcepts could
do as a baby, I would have tried harder to pull myself out of the womb
without assistance from the doctor ...
JJ
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Yeah it definately affected our relationship
especially when it first happened. I have had one thing happen after another.
It has taken awhile but he's OK with it now and has been very supportive.
I lost my hearing in 2006 when an ENT dr pulled gromets out to put new
ones in causing my ears to bleed which led to a bad infection. He denied
that there was anything wrong and I went to a different dr who sent me
to an audi which was when I found out that the damage to my left ear was
permanent and irreversible. Anyway what really helped was going to hearing
solutions which I mentioned earlier - finding the FM system and getting
other devices to help me helped our relationship - I use a big button phone
which has a special volume control which doesn't blur the sound when it
is amplified, I have a vibrating alarm clock and a special smoke alarm
which has a vibrating pad and a strobe light, also a doorbell which flashes
so if I am watching TV and expecting someone then I can put it on the table
in front of me - very useful since I am using access taxis at the moment.
The other thing that they do is run a 20 week free speech reading/communication
strategy course (in 4 5 week blocks) of which we have done 15 weeks and
intend to do the last 5 when I am better health wise. This helped to teach
Jeff what it is like to be hearing imparied cause we did the speech reading
without
voice so everyone was in the same boat of
course that is the worst case senario like at a dinner party or restuarant.
Things like sitting with your back to a wall (if possible) and away from
the kitchen/coffee machines, picking places with good light - those things
really help me. Jeff and I both get frustrated about my hearing loss when
we are tired that is the worst. And we both forget - dont start conversations
from another room and if Ive got the FM system in front of the TV he basically
cant talk to me unless we put it on mute. I do find children and women
with high voices harder to hear thats cause of the pitch of their voices
and also cause children often speak quietly. The car is definately a problem
which is another use for the FM system say the kids are int he back and
you are in the front well the microphone can be given to them and you can
hear whats being said in the back - I did this from Canberra to sydney
with my parentsin law in the front and me in the back - Jill spoke into
the mic and I could hear her in the back, brian was driving and didn't
talk much. Thats another reason why I like to use the FM system in noisy
places especially the newer model that has a superdirectional microphone.
Its hard when you feel socially isolated because of being hearing impaired
and that you have to choose to miss out or go and hope you can hear. At
least with HA that arent bicros different settings are available to knock
out some of the background noise. Maybe future technology will allow this
to happen as well as bicros. I wear mine the whole time I am awake noisy
environment or not -only take out for shower and sleep.
I also have tinnitus and it is all the time
in my left ear sounds like an off station radio and in my right it comes
on and off. I have been told that I have it because of my hearing loss.
It usually drives me crazy when it changes noises or when the right ear
starts and then stops. I worry that if my right ear gets worse i'll have
the amount of noise in my left ear now in the right as well. IK wouldn't
be able to hear anything over the top of it - its bad enough as it is.
I've asked the audi for help but the sound therapy really didn't help the
best thing ive found is to use distraction like having TV or radio on in
background.
Erin
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Wow, you've had to go through a lot Erin. From your emails I admire
the fact that you appear to have a positive outlook and are not letting
things like being in a wheelchair or not being able to hear well stop you
from doing things that you enjoy. I too hate it when people say to
me "it doesn't matter" or "don't worry about it" becasue
I haven't heard what they've said. Can I ask how your hearing impairment
has affected your relationship with your husband? My wife is pretty
understanding and supportive and all that, but I think she does get frustrated
at me at times if I don't hear her, and I get frustrated with her sometimes
if I have to ask her to repeat what she has said, although I generally
don't have a problem hearing her. I do have a lot of problems understanding
what my children are saying at times (especially in the car when I'm driving),
and sometimes I get frustrated when I have to ask them several times what
they have said. Someone in this group also mentioned they had trouble
hearing what children are saying. The other thing I hate is when
people talk to me on my right hand side when they know I'm deaf on that
side (if I have my bicros on this isn't a problem). That's why I
hate dinner parties and stuff like that, where there is a chance that someone
could be sitting on my right side and I won't be able to hear them. If
I have my bicros on it makes it easier, but one thing I've found is that
they don't work that well in noisy places, which is why I generally only
wear them at work.
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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Thats interesting my balance (before I ended up in a wheelchair) and coordination
are bad whether I wear them or not - I had to use a walking stick to help
...
Well yes my hearing was fine before and I have hearing tests that show that. I had a conductive hearing loss which is why I needed grommets due to non-allergic rhinitus basically hayfever symptoms with the allergy really annoying. We have a lawyer and I would like to sue for compensation we have so far aquired his extremely brief notes which dont mention the infection however its on my GPs notes cause I went there for the antibiotics- hes a lot closer and I was unable to drive to the city to see the ENT dr. it did effect both ears but the left one is completely dead and the right starts in mild range and then drops at about 1500 Hz which is why women and children are harder to hear. I also had an accident on a bus in 2005 (the driver took off before I was sitting down - the deaf thing came in 2006 and it either gave me or exacerbated fibromyalgia which is a pain syndrome which I can tell you more about if you want - anyway we are in the process of sueing the bus insurance company allianz but its become very complicated cause in july last year my specialist gave me medication which reacted badly to other meds I was on and made me very sick. I went to rehab which made me a lot worse and then outpatient rehab which was terrible. 5 days after that finished I developed tremours/muscle dystonia which have left me in a wheelchair so now there is almost another case against someone because of it putting me in a wheelchair. The lawyer is sorting it out for us. So you were right when you said that I have been through a lot.
Did you ever learn AUSLAN? I would love to do that even though I have some hearing left.
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By the sounds of things you have a case for compensation from the doctor who did your gromets surgery. Was your hearing fine before the operation? In my case I was born deaf in my right ear, which apparently happened when the doctor delivering me used forcepts to yank me out of my mother's ... well you know. I was apparently bleeding from this ear at birth, and never have been able to hear out of my right ear. Had I known the damage forcepts could do as a baby, I would have tried harder to pull myself out of the womb without assistance from the doctor ...
JJ
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Yeah it definately affected our relationship especially when it first happened. I have had one thing happen after another. It has taken awhile but he's OK with it now and has been very supportive. I lost my hearing in 2006 when an ENT dr pulled gromets out to put new ones in causing my ears to bleed which led to a bad infection. He denied that there was anything wrong and I went to a different dr who sent me to an audi which was when I found out that the damage to my left ear was permanent and irreversible. Anyway what really helped was going to hearing solutions which I mentioned earlier - finding the FM system and getting other devices to help me helped our relationship - I use a big button phone which has a special volume control which doesn't blur the sound when it is amplified, I have a vibrating alarm clock and a special smoke alarm which has a vibrating pad and a strobe light, also a doorbell which flashes so if I am watching TV and expecting someone then I can put it on the table in front of me - very useful since I am using access taxis at the moment. The other thing that they do is run a 20 week free speech reading/communication strategy course (in 4 5 week blocks) of which we have done 15 weeks and intend to do the last 5 when I am better health wise. This helped to teach Jeff what it is like to be hearing imparied cause we did the speech reading without voice so everyone was in the same boat of course that is the worst case senario like at a dinner party or restuarant. Things like sitting with your back to a wall (if possible) and away from the kitchen/coffee machines, picking places with good light - those things really help me. Jeff and I both get frustrated about my hearing loss when we are tired that is the worst. And we both forget - dont start conversations from another room and if Ive got the FM system in front of the TV he basically cant talk to me unless we put it on mute. I do find children and women with high voices harder to hear thats cause of the pitch of their voices and also cause children often speak quietly. The car is definately a problem which is another use for the FM system say the kids are int he back and you are in the front well the microphone can be given to them and you can hear whats being said in the back - I did this from Canberra to sydney with my parentsin law in the front and me in the back - Jill spoke into the mic and I could hear her in the back, brian was driving and didn't talk much. Thats another reason why I like to use the FM system in noisy places especially the newer model that has a superdirectional microphone. Its hard when you feel socially isolated because of being hearing impaired and that you have to choose to miss out or go and hope you can hear. At least with HA that arent bicros different settings are available to knock out some of the background noise. Maybe future technology will allow this to happen as well as bicros. I wear mine the whole time I am awake noisy environment or not -only take out for shower and sleep.
I also have tinnitus and it is all the time in my left ear sounds like an off station radio and in my right it comes on and off. I have been told that I have it because of my hearing loss. It usually drives me crazy when it changes noises or when the right ear starts and then stops. I worry that if my right ear gets worse i'll have the amount of noise in my left ear now in the right as well. IK wouldn't be able to hear anything over the top of it - its bad enough as it is. I've asked the audi for help but the sound therapy really didn't help the best thing ive found is to use distraction like having TV or radio on in background.
Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Wow, you've had to go through a lot Erin. From your emails I admire the fact that you appear to have a positive outlook and are not letting things like being in a wheelchair or not being able to hear well stop you from doing things that you enjoy. I too hate it when people say to me "it doesn't matter" or "don't worry about it" becasue I haven't heard what they've said. Can I ask how your hearing impairment has affected your relationship with your husband? My wife is pretty understanding and supportive and all that, but I think she does get frustrated at me at times if I don't hear her, and I get frustrated with her sometimes if I have to ask her to repeat what she has said, although I generally don't have a problem hearing her. I do have a lot of problems understanding what my children are saying at times (especially in the car when I'm driving), and sometimes I get frustrated when I have to ask them several times what they have said. Someone in this group also mentioned they had trouble hearing what children are saying. The other thing I hate is when people talk to me on my right hand side when they know I'm deaf on that side (if I have my bicros on this isn't a problem). That's why I hate dinner parties and stuff like that, where there is a chance that someone could be sitting on my right side and I won't be able to hear them. If I have my bicros on it makes it easier, but one thing I've found is that they don't work that well in noisy places, which is why I generally only wear them at work.
JJ
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Thats interesting my balance (before I ended up in a wheelchair) and coordination are bad whether I wear them or not - I had to use a walking stick to help me - at my balance physios idea. Actually it usually was heaps worse at night in the dark so bad that I often had to get my husband to help me from the car to the house. Being in a wheelchair I haven't had to worry about that except when I transfer. I guess I speak clearer with them in but my husband still complains that he cant understand me. I think my hearing has deteriorated too, I haven't had a test for about 12 months. I guess I will have to have another one soonish and see where I am at. It was worse last year from the previous test and when I asked the audi whether they thought I would be able to tell the difference with that small amount they said cause I only had 1 good
My apologies for not responding to your
email sooner - I receive the SHHHgroup emails to my work email address,
and I was away from the office yesterday. I've come in today to catch
up on what I missed yesterday. You definately have been through a
lot, my heart goes out to you. I hope in the end things go your way,
you certainly deserve it after what you've been through.
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
phone: (08) 6310 1624 | fax: 63101010 | email: jason.tyler@horizonpower.com.au
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Well yes my hearing was fine before and I
have hearing tests that show that. I had a conductive hearing loss which
is why I needed grommets due to non-allergic rhinitus basically hayfever
symptoms with the allergy really annoying. We have a lawyer and I would
like to sue for compensation we have so far aquired his extremely brief
notes which dont mention the infection however its on my GPs notes cause
I went there for the antibiotics- hes a lot closer and I was unable to
drive to the city to see the ENT dr. it did effect both ears but the left
one is completely dead and the right starts in mild range and then drops
at about 1500 Hz which is why women and children are harder to hear. I
also had an accident on a bus in 2005 (the driver took off before I was
sitting down - the deaf thing came in 2006 and it either gave me or exacerbated
fibromyalgia which is a pain syndrome which I can tell you more about if
you want - anyway we are in the process of sueing the bus insurance company
allianz but its become very complicated cause in july last year my specialist
gave me medication which reacted badly to other meds I was on and made
me very sick. I went to rehab which made me a lot worse and then outpatient
rehab which was terrible. 5 days after that finished I developed tremours/muscle
dystonia which have left me in a wheelchair so now there is almost another
case against someone because of it putting me in a wheelchair. The lawyer
is sorting it out for us. So you were right when you said that I have been
through a lot.
Did you ever learn AUSLAN? I would love to
do that even though I have some hearing left.
Erin
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Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on
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By the sounds of things you have a case for compensation from the doctor
who did your gromets surgery. Was your hearing fine before the operation?
In my case I was born deaf in my right ear, which apparently happened
when the doctor delivering me used forcepts to yank me out of my mother's
... well you know. I was apparently bleeding from this ear at birth,
and never have been able to hear out of my right ear. Had I known
the damage forcepts could do as a baby, I would have tried harder to pull
myself out of the womb without assistance from the doctor ...
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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Yeah it definately affected our relationship especially when it first happened.
I have had one thing happen after another. It has taken awhile but he's
OK with it now and has been very supportive. I lost my hearing in 2006
when an ENT dr pulled gromets out to put new ones in causing my ears to
bleed which led to a bad infection. He denied that there was anything wrong
and I went to a different dr who sent me to an audi which was when I found
out that the damage to my left ear was permanent and irreversible. Anyway
what really helped was going to hearing solutions which I mentioned earlier
- finding the FM system and getting other devices to help me helped our
relationship - I use a big button phone which has a special volume control
which doesn't blur the sound when it is amplified, I have a vibrating alarm
clock and a special smoke alarm which has a vibrating pad and a strobe
light, also a doorbell which flashes so if I am watching TV and expecting
someone then I can put it on the table in front of me - very useful since
I am using access taxis at the moment. The other thing that they do is
run a 20 week free speech reading/communication strategy course (in 4 5
week blocks) of which we have done 15 weeks and intend to do the last 5
when I am better health wise. This helped to teach Jeff what it is like
to be hearing imparied cause we did the speech reading without
voice so everyone was in the same boat of course that is the worst case
senario like at a dinner party or restuarant. Things like sitting with
your back to a wall (if possible) and away from the kitchen/coffee machines,
picking places with good light - those things really help me. Jeff and
I both get frustrated about my hearing loss when we are tired that is the
worst. And we both forget - dont start conversations from another room
and if Ive got the FM system in front of the TV he basically cant talk
to me unless we put it on mute. I do find children and women with high
voices harder to hear thats cause of the pitch of their voices and also
cause children often speak quietly. The car is definately a problem which
is another use for the FM system say the kids are int he back and you are
in the front well the microphone can be given to them and you can hear
whats being said in the back - I did this from Canberra to sydney with
my parentsin law in the front and me in the back - Jill spoke into the
mic and I could hear her in the back, brian was driving and didn't talk
much. Thats another reason why I like to use the FM system in noisy places
especially the newer model that has a superdirectional microphone. Its
hard when you feel socially isolated because of being hearing impaired
and that you have to choose to miss out or go and hope you can hear. At
least with HA that arent bicros different settings are available to knock
out some of the background noise. Maybe future technology will allow this
to happen as well as bicros. I wear mine the whole time I am awake noisy
environment or not -only take out for shower and sleep.
I also have tinnitus and it is all the time in my left ear sounds like
an off station radio and in my right it comes on and off. I have been told
that I have it because of my hearing loss. It usually drives me crazy when
it changes noises or when the right ear
...
Thanks I'll keep you all posted about what happens.
My husband went to choir camp from fri night til today at lunchtime in the Adelaide hills and so I spent the weekend catching up with my grandma who is 89 and still living alone. I used to visit alot when I could drive but now we dont see each other that often and I miss her. It was a challenge getting around her unit but I did it once before and managed it again
Back home with the cats now!
----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Hi Erin,
My apologies for not responding to your email sooner - I receive the SHHHgroup emails to my work email address, and I was away from the office yesterday. I've come in today to catch up on what I missed yesterday. You definately have been through a lot, my heart goes out to you. I hope in the end things go your way, you certainly deserve it after what you've been through.
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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Well yes my hearing was fine before and I have hearing tests that show that. I had a conductive hearing loss which is why I needed grommets due to non-allergic rhinitus basically hayfever symptoms with the allergy really annoying. We have a lawyer and I would like to sue for compensation we have so far aquired his extremely brief notes which dont mention the infection however its on my GPs notes cause I went there for the antibiotics- hes a lot closer and I was unable to drive to the city to see the ENT dr. it did effect both ears but the left one is completely dead and the right starts in mild range and then drops at about 1500 Hz which is why women and children are harder to hear. I also had an accident on a bus in 2005 (the driver took off before I was sitting down - the deaf thing came in 2006 and it either gave me or exacerbated fibromyalgia which is a pain syndrome which I can tell you more about if you want - anyway we are in the process of sueing the bus insurance company allianz but its become very complicated cause in july last year my specialist gave me medication which reacted badly to other meds I was on and made me very sick. I went to rehab which made me a lot worse and then outpatient rehab which was terrible. 5 days after that finished I developed tremours/muscle dystonia which have left me in a wheelchair so now there is almost another case against someone because of it putting me in a wheelchair. The lawyer is sorting it out for us. So you were right when you said that I have been through a lot.
Did you ever learn AUSLAN? I would love to do that even though I have some hearing left.
Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
By the sounds of things you have a case for compensation from the doctor who did your gromets surgery. Was your hearing fine before the operation? In my case I was born deaf in my right ear, which apparently happened when the doctor delivering me used forcepts to yank me out of my mother's ... well you know. I was apparently bleeding from this ear at birth, and never have been able to hear out of my right ear. Had I known the damage forcepts could do as a baby, I would have tried harder to pull myself out of the womb without assistance from the doctor ...
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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Yeah it definately affected our relationship especially when it first happened. I have had one thing happen after another. It has taken awhile but he's OK with it now and has been very supportive. I lost my hearing in 2006 when an ENT dr pulled gromets out to put new ones in causing my ears to bleed which led to a bad infection. He denied that there was anything wrong and I went to a different dr who sent me to an audi which was when I found out that the damage to my left ear was permanent and irreversible. Anyway what really helped was going to hearing solutions which I mentioned earlier - finding the FM system and getting other devices to help me helped our relationship - I use a big button phone which has a special volume control which doesn't blur the sound when it is amplified, I have a vibrating alarm clock and a special smoke alarm which has a vibrating pad and a strobe light, also a doorbell which flashes so if I am watching TV and expecting someone then I can put it on the table in front of me - very useful since I am using access taxis at the moment. The other thing that they do is run a 20 week free speech reading/communication strategy course (in 4 5 week blocks) of which we have done 15 weeks and intend to do the last 5 when I am better health wise. This helped to teach Jeff what it is like to be hearing imparied cause we did the speech reading without voice so everyone was in the same boat of course that is the worst case senario like at a dinner party or restuarant. Things like sitting with your back to a wall (if possible) and away from the kitchen/coffee machines, picking places with good light - those things really help me. Jeff and I both get frustrated about my hearing loss when we are tired that is the worst. And we both forget - dont start conversations from another room and if Ive got the FM system in front of the TV he basically cant talk to me unless we put it on mute. I do find children and women with high voices harder to hear thats cause of the pitch of their voices and also cause children often speak quietly. The car is definately a problem which is another use for the FM system say the kids are int he back and you are in the front well the microphone can be given to them and you can hear whats being said in the back - I did this from Canberra to sydney with my parentsin law in the front and me in the back - Jill spoke into the mic and I could hear her in the back, brian was driving and didn't talk much. Thats another reason why I like to use the FM system in noisy places especially the newer model that has a superdirectional microphone. Its hard when you feel socially isolated because of being hearing impaired and that you have to choose to miss out or go and hope you can hear. At least with HA that arent bicros different settings are available to knock out some of the background noise. Maybe future technology will allow this to happen as well as bicros. I wear mine the whole time I am awake noisy environment or not -only take out for shower and sleep.
I also have tinnitus and it is all the time in my left ear sounds like an off station radio and in my right it comes on and off. I have been told that I have it because of my hearing loss. It usually drives me crazy when it changes noises or when the right ear starts and then stops. I worry that if my right ear gets worse i'll have the amount of noise in my left ear now in the right as well. IK wouldn't be able to hear anything over the top of it - its bad enough as it is. I've asked the audi for help but the sound therapy really didn't help the best thing ive found is to use distraction like having TV or radio on in background.
Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Wow, you've had to go through a lot Erin. From your emails I admire the fact that you appear to have a positive outlook and are not letting things like being in a wheelchair or not being able to hear well stop you from doing things that you enjoy. I too hate it when people say to me "it doesn't matter" or "don't worry about it" becasue I haven't heard what they've said. Can I ask how your hearing impairment has affected your relationship with your husband? My wife is pretty understanding and supportive and all that, but I think she does get frustrated at me at times if I don't hear her, and I get frustrated with her sometimes if I have to ask her to repeat what she has said, although I generally don't have a problem hearing her. I do have a lot of problems understanding what my children are saying at times (especially in the car when I'm driving), and sometimes I get frustrated when I have to ask them several times what they have said. Someone in this group also mentioned they had trouble hearing what children are saying. The other thing I hate is when people talk to me on my right hand side when they know I'm deaf on that side (if I have my bicros on this isn't a problem). That's why I hate dinner parties and stuff like that, where there is a chance
I am on the AAMHL list which is Association for adult musicians with a hearing loss from US and there's been a lot of discussion about telecoils and listening devices related to that and also mobile phones. Anyway one thing that I didn't know was that if you put most headphones over your hearing aid on the telecoil setting it works like an induction loop (the headphones) and so you can use this when listening to music. I certainly cant hear music through headphones without my HA and I have been using an induction loop attached to a stereo to mono converter cause the cd player is stereo and the loop is mono. This does work but I never knew you could use headphones in this way. One person also recommends an ear hook which I am assuming is an induction plate for listening to walkmans.
Erin
----- Original Message ----- From: Erin Mckenzie-Christensen To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Thanks I'll keep you all posted about what happens.
My husband went to choir camp from fri night til today at lunchtime in the Adelaide hills and so I spent the weekend catching up with my grandma who is 89 and still living alone. I used to visit alot when I could drive but now we dont see each other that often and I miss her. It was a challenge getting around her unit but I did it once before and managed it again
Back home with the cats now!
Erin
----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Hi Erin,
My apologies for not responding to your email sooner - I receive the SHHHgroup emails to my work email address, and I was away from the office yesterday. I've come in today to catch up on what I missed yesterday. You definately have been through a lot, my heart goes out to you. I hope in the end things go your way, you certainly deserve it after what you've been through.
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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Well yes my hearing was fine before and I have hearing tests that show that. I had a conductive hearing loss which is why I needed grommets due to non-allergic rhinitus basically hayfever symptoms with the allergy really annoying. We have a lawyer and I would like to sue for compensation we have so far aquired his extremely brief notes which dont mention the infection however its on my GPs notes cause I went there for the antibiotics- hes a lot closer and I was unable to drive to the city to see the ENT dr. it did effect both ears but the left one is completely dead and the right starts in mild range and then drops at about 1500 Hz which is why women and children are harder to hear. I also had an accident on a bus in 2005 (the driver took off before I was sitting down - the deaf thing came in 2006 and it either gave me or exacerbated fibromyalgia which is a pain syndrome which I can tell you more about if you want - anyway we are in the process of sueing the bus insurance company allianz but its become very complicated cause in july last year my specialist gave me medication which reacted badly to other meds I was on and made me very sick. I went to rehab which made me a lot worse and then outpatient rehab which was terrible. 5 days after that finished I developed tremours/muscle dystonia which have left me in a wheelchair so now there is almost another case against someone because of it putting me in a wheelchair. The lawyer is sorting it out for us. So you were right when you said that I have been through a lot.
Did you ever learn AUSLAN? I would love to do that even though I have some hearing left.
Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
By the sounds of things you have a case for compensation from the doctor who did your gromets surgery. Was your hearing fine before the operation? In my case I was born deaf in my right ear, which apparently happened when the doctor delivering me used forcepts to yank me out of my mother's ... well you know. I was apparently bleeding from this ear at birth, and never have been able to hear out of my right ear. Had I known the damage forcepts could do as a baby, I would have tried harder to pull myself out of the womb without assistance from the doctor ...
JJ
Jason Tyler
Senior Business Analyst
Horizon Power, 18 Brodie Hall Drive, Bentley, WA, 6102, Australia
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Yeah it definately affected our relationship especially when it first happened. I have had one thing happen after another. It has taken awhile but he's OK with it now and has been very supportive. I lost my hearing in 2006 when an ENT dr pulled gromets out to put new ones in causing my ears to bleed which led to a bad infection. He denied that there was anything wrong and I went to a different dr who sent me to an audi which was when I found out that the damage to my left ear was permanent and irreversible. Anyway what really helped was going to hearing solutions which I mentioned earlier - finding the FM system and getting other devices to help me helped our relationship - I use a big button phone which has a special volume control which doesn't blur the sound when it is amplified, I have a vibrating alarm clock and a special smoke alarm which has a vibrating pad and a strobe light, also a doorbell which flashes so if I am watching TV and expecting someone then I can put it on the table in front of me - very useful since I am using access taxis at the moment. The other thing that they do is run a 20 week free speech reading/communication strategy course (in 4 5 week blocks) of which we have done 15 weeks and intend to do the last 5 when I am better health wise. This helped to teach Jeff what it is like to be hearing imparied cause we did the speech reading without voice so everyone was in the same boat of course that is the worst case senario like at a dinner party or restuarant. Things like sitting with your back to a wall (if possible) and away from the kitchen/coffee machines, picking places with good light - those things really help me. Jeff and I both get frustrated about my hearing loss when we are tired that is the worst. And we both forget - dont start conversations from another room and if Ive got the FM system in front of the TV he basically cant talk to me unless we put it on mute. I do find children and women with high voices harder to hear thats cause of the pitch of their voices and also cause children often speak quietly. The car is definately a problem which is another use for the FM system say the kids are int he back and you are in the front well the microphone can be given to them and you can hear whats being said in the back - I did this from Canberra to sydney with my parentsin law in the front and me in the back - Jill spoke into the mic and I could hear her in the back, brian was driving and didn't talk much. Thats another reason why I like to use the FM system in noisy places especially the newer model that has a superdirectional microphone. Its hard when you feel socially isolated because of being hearing impaired and that you have to choose to miss out or go and hope you can hear. At least with HA that arent bicros different settings are available to knock out some of the background noise. Maybe future technology will allow this to happen as well as bicros. I wear mine the whole time I am awake noisy environment or not -only take out for shower and sleep.
I also have tinnitus and it is all the time in my left ear sounds like an off station radio and in my right it comes on and off. I have been told that I have it because of my hearing loss. It usually drives me crazy when it changes noises or when the right ear starts and then stops. I worry that if my right ear gets worse i'll have the amount of noise in my left ear now in the right as well. IK wouldn't be able to hear anything over the top of it - its bad enough as it is. I've asked the audi for help but the sound therapy really didn't help the best thing ive found is to use distraction like having TV or radio on in background.
Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Tyler To: SHHHgroups@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: {SHHH Support Group} Re: Discussion on listening-devices-inc-hearing-aids
Wow, you've had to go through a lot Erin. From your emails I admire the fact that you appear to have a positive outlook
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