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Kevin  
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 More options Mar 30 2008, 10:37 pm
Newsgroups: sci.med.vision
From: Kevin <lite...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Mar 30 2008 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: Stay away from "vision educators"
On 30 Mar, 13:35, LarryDoc <lite...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> In article <MPG.199ecb5f8066fe68989...@news.ntlworld.com>,

>  Kevin <sevenths...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > It is well known that in general all myopes have a deterioration at the
> > very edges of the retina as compared to people who have not worn
> > glasses.
> > An optometrist assumes that the deterioration is a result of being
> > myopic. I would suggest that the fact that the person is trained into
> > using a smaller area of the retina should not be ignored.
> > Kevin

> BatesCultist:

> Your statements are absolutely scientifically false.

> 1. ALL myopes DO NOT have deterioration of the retina. Some do, some
> don't. For that matter, so do hyperopes. Some do, some don't. For that
> matter, so do people with no optical correction. Some do, some don't.
> And some people are born with a predisposition, and some people are
> simply born that way.

> 2. Lattice degeneration, peripheral holes and tears have nothing to do
> with whether a person has worn glasses or not, and hardly to do with
> whether or not there is a refractive error. The only FACT we know for
> certain is that SOME people with enlongated axial length or who have a
> physical growth anomolgy thining the peripheral retina, or those who
> have had head trauma are at higher risk for "deterioration". Wearing
> glasses has nothing to with it. Hitting your head on the windshield
> because some loonatic crashed into you because s/he was Bate-d into
> not using optical correction is a definate potential cause.

> 3. We don't ASSUME anything, We examine, we observe, we report.

> 4. It is not a fact that a myope wearing glasses is trained into using
> a smaller area of the retina. The perihperal retina gets plently of
> stimulation----and whatever, it has nothing to do with peripheral
> retina anomolies.

> SO....

> Your statements are absolutely scientifically false. Like most
> everything Bates.  But, your a zealot, a fanatic and nothing contrary
> to your position means a damn thing to you.

> --LB

Heavens, Your points are interesting and I've noted them, but what an
astonishing reaction!

I did not say 'degeneration at the edge of the retina is due to the
wearing of glasses', I merely suggested that it not be ignored as a
possible contributing factor in the causation of this condition.
That's a line of enquiry, not a scientific proclamation.

But your reaction is to me the very opposite of unassuming.

> 3. We don't ASSUME anything, We examine, we observe, we report.

Try responding to me again in a much less assumptive manner , then
maybe your words won't sound so hollow.

Kevin


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