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Stay away from "vision educators"
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From: Mike Tyner <lite...@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: Stay away from "vision educators"
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
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"Jenny06427" <jenny06...@aol.com> wrote
>MT >seeing sharp borders between colors where they aren't blurred together.
> It's still not the same as someone with perfect sight seeing, yes more
> functional
No but that wasnt' the argument. Bates said they see better color and
form worse with glasses. Nonsense.
> >and the spectrograph of CR-39 is remarkably flat.
> Disagree look through any glass less quality of color
Never mind the spectrographs, huh.
> MAybe we just become accustomed to blurriness? Sure seems like a little
> rebound effect. Who did without their glasses for 3 months, most people run
> right out?
Because they get better when they lose their glasses?
> Ask them whether they'd rather see without them no problem. Yes most everyone
> would prefer not to need glasses
Yes but most people see better with them. Bates said they see better
without them.
> >them. - These are unpleasantnesses that CANNOT be overcome."
> >But people overcome them all the time.
> People become accustomed and function alright, there is still changes in the
> way things are seen compared to perfect sight
So the "unpleasantness" cannot be overcome?
> How well can you see out of corner of your eye with glasses. It's all blurry
> and lose attention to this field focusing only on part glasses make
> artificially clear.
That wasn't the argument. The field of vision is not always smaller
with lenses, so Bates was wrong.
> I already posted the studies that it's not all the lens either.
Yes but that doesn't change the experience of EVERYONE who has
cataract surgery or cycloplegic drops. Where is this "other"
accommodation when the lens is removed?
> Minus lenses make the eyes worse some of us think. Otis just posted about
this
> better than I can.
Otis didn't post any proof. He posted an 80-year-old opinion that is
contradicted by several studies. I quoted them here and Otis just
ignored them.
> Got to go don't have time to address any more, will do changes in refraction
> later.
-MT
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