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  <title type="text">sci.med.vision Google Group</title>
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  Human vision, visual correction, and visual science.
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  <updated>2009-11-08T11:15:11Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Lelouch Lamperouge</name>
  <email>misa...@googlemail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T11:15:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/b47d6abf20f74452/18c713c5093173c3?show_docid=18c713c5093173c3</id>
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  <title type="text">Presbyopia: Its Cause and Cure</title>
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  [...] &lt;br&gt; Presbyopia: Its Cause and Cure &lt;br&gt; By W. H. Bates, M.D. &lt;br&gt; Presbyopia is the name given to the loss of power to use the eyes at &lt;br&gt; the near point, without the aid of glasses, which usually occurs after &lt;br&gt; the age of forty. &lt;br&gt; The text-books teach that this change is a normal one: but it is a &lt;br&gt; noteworthy fact that many other eye troubles often date from the time
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  <author>
  <name>Ms.Brainy</name>
  <email>mikabra...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T01:57:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/cd3459f9d8adf56d/dbbdfad4fe2c5a17?show_docid=dbbdfad4fe2c5a17</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/cd3459f9d8adf56d/dbbdfad4fe2c5a17?show_docid=dbbdfad4fe2c5a17"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Methods That Have Succeeded in Presbyopia</title>
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  Any useful advice of overcoming gravity?
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  <author>
  <name>Mike Tyner</name>
  <email>mty...@mindspring.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T01:09:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3db7ec5414294132/9755317b457e9a75?show_docid=9755317b457e9a75</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3db7ec5414294132/9755317b457e9a75?show_docid=9755317b457e9a75"/>
  <title type="text">Re: contrast sensitivity, visual acuity, and Photoshop</title>
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  &amp;quot;Liz&amp;quot; &amp;lt;fraternobom...@yahoo.com&amp;gt; wrote &lt;br&gt; BinGO gurlie. &lt;br&gt; That&#39;s the principle, absolutely. &lt;br&gt; Generally a &amp;quot;cycle&amp;quot; would be a repetition, any repetition. &lt;br&gt; But if we limit our analysis to &amp;quot;cycles&amp;quot; we can plot as waves, then the math &lt;br&gt; becomes MUCH simpler, because we already have mathematics for waves. The &lt;br&gt; same trigonometry works for all waves, in electricity, water, and music, as
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Salmon Egg</name>
  <email>salmon...@sbcglobal.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T21:55:29Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: contrast sensitivity, visual acuity, and Photoshop</title>
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  In article &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;da6362e5-b77e-40f4-87eb-101ce 2d9d...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroup s.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; Do you understand audio or temporal frequency? If you do, you understand &lt;br&gt; that your hearing system has limited high frequency response. That &lt;br&gt; response limits the sharpness of clicks you might be able to hear. &lt;br&gt; Similarly, your visual system has limited capability for things changing
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  <author>
  <name>Joe</name>
  <email>jganda...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T20:01:29Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Color Correcting Lens Coatings?</title>
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  On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:22:51 -0800, Salmon Egg &lt;br&gt; OK, I am not *completely* color-blind to red - as I mentioned before, &lt;br&gt; I do see red, just not very well. If the ambient light is brighter, I &lt;br&gt; see red better, but if the ambient light is dim, red doesn&#39;t show up, &lt;br&gt; so I am left with the impression that the color is black (no color).
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  <author>
  <name>Liz</name>
  <email>fraternobom...@yahoo.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T19:28:25Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: contrast sensitivity, visual acuity, and Photoshop</title>
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  Mike, your explanation is SO much better than those articles! &lt;br&gt; Degrees as in 0 to 360? The way astronomers say something is &amp;quot;15 &lt;br&gt; degrees above the horizon&amp;quot;? I think so. In other words, straight &lt;br&gt; ahead is 0, straight overhead is 90, and the space in between is &lt;br&gt; divided into 90 equal pieces... &lt;br&gt; Yes, I see how the distance wouldn&#39;t matter.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Liz</name>
  <email>fraternobom...@yahoo.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T18:29:25Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: contrast sensitivity, visual acuity, and Photoshop</title>
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  I&#39;m not complaining about the measurement aspect. Of course you have &lt;br&gt; to use math to measure it. &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m saying that I can&#39;t figure out WHAT is being measured. I mean in &lt;br&gt; terms of anything concrete that I know what it is. &lt;br&gt; Unfortunately I don&#39;t know what &amp;quot;spatial frequency&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;transfer &lt;br&gt; modulation function&amp;quot;, are. Sorry! Yes, I looked them up and read
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mike Tyner</name>
  <email>mty...@mindspring.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T15:46:26Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3db7ec5414294132/a6357d984c6482d5?show_docid=a6357d984c6482d5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: contrast sensitivity, visual acuity, and Photoshop</title>
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  &amp;quot;Liz&amp;quot; &amp;lt;fraternobom...@yahoo.com&amp;gt; wrote &lt;br&gt; Pretend your eye is the center of a circle. If you look at a letter &amp;quot;E&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; several feet away, you could measure the height of the letter in degrees, &lt;br&gt; couldn&#39;t you? &lt;br&gt; The nice thing about degrees is we don&#39;t care how far away something is, as &lt;br&gt; long as it covers the same angle.
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  <author>
  <name>Robert Redelmeier</name>
  <email>red...@ev1.net.invalid</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T14:53:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3db7ec5414294132/7a9fa6476208db90?show_docid=7a9fa6476208db90</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3db7ec5414294132/7a9fa6476208db90?show_docid=7a9fa6476208db90"/>
  <title type="text">Re: contrast sensitivity, visual acuity, and Photoshop</title>
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  Liz &amp;lt;fraternobom...@yahoo.com&amp;gt; wrote in part: &lt;br&gt; Some of us like that stuff ! &lt;br&gt; People often use terms imprecisely. I would say &amp;quot;visual &lt;br&gt; acuity&amp;quot; presumes some sort of standard contrast, while &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;contrast sensitivity&amp;quot; is somewhat more general. &lt;br&gt; Oh, a photog -- look up &amp;quot;Modular Transfer Function&amp;quot; ... &lt;br&gt; maybe not if you dislike abstraction more than ignorance.
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  <author>
  <name>Salmon Egg</name>
  <email>salmon...@sbcglobal.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-07T12:44:21Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3db7ec5414294132/3859cae0eaa8bc0d?show_docid=3859cae0eaa8bc0d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: contrast sensitivity, visual acuity, and Photoshop</title>
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  In article &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;00b8ae25-844f-4164-9c2b-e8aa6 f5e8...@p35g2000yqh.googlegrou ps.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; Sorry Liz. If you are trying to quantify these terms to an objective &lt;br&gt; standard, I do not see how you can avoid math. Otherwise, all you have &lt;br&gt; is English teach arty-fartiness. Just take the Snellen chart. Not all &lt;br&gt; letters require the same acuity to be read. The cycles per degree or
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Salmon Egg</name>
  <email>salmon...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-07T12:28:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3f5117e05bfe6ab6/60104a718e74bbfa?show_docid=60104a718e74bbfa</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3f5117e05bfe6ab6/60104a718e74bbfa?show_docid=60104a718e74bbfa"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Color Correcting Lens Coatings?</title>
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  In article &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;b9a6d9ca-9114-4ed5-ae0a-6c23c 79c8...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroup s.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; In this quote note that &amp;quot;color balance&amp;quot; is not defined. &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Treatment&amp;quot; is not the right word to use.&amp;quot;Modified&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;compensated&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; might be a better word to use. As treatment, the method is equivalent to &lt;br&gt; treating myopia with glasses. Yjr best you can say is that myopia is
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mike Tyner</name>
  <email>mty...@mindspring.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-07T12:27:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/cd3459f9d8adf56d/bce38f7e801ebaad?show_docid=bce38f7e801ebaad</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/cd3459f9d8adf56d/bce38f7e801ebaad?show_docid=bce38f7e801ebaad"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Lies I have believed about Presbyopia</title>
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  &amp;quot;Lelouch Lamperouge&amp;quot; &amp;lt;misa...@googlemail.com&amp;gt; wrote &lt;br&gt; Nothing original, nothing that works.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Lelouch Lamperouge</name>
  <email>misa...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-07T12:15:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/cd3459f9d8adf56d/2d3cbf516ddcbec9?show_docid=2d3cbf516ddcbec9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/cd3459f9d8adf56d/2d3cbf516ddcbec9?show_docid=2d3cbf516ddcbec9"/>
  <title type="text">Methods That Have Succeeded in Presbyopia</title>
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  [...] &lt;br&gt; Methods That Have Succeeded in Presbyopia &lt;br&gt; The cure of presbyopia, as of any other error of refraction, is rest, &lt;br&gt; and many presbyopic patients are able to obtain this rest simply by &lt;br&gt; closing the eyes. They are kept closed until the patient feels &lt;br&gt; relieved, which may be in a few minutes, half an hour, or longer. Then
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>dada</name>
  <email>dada_do...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-07T07:41:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/347d56ba5bc81f99/1fb53b2c48120d4b?show_docid=1fb53b2c48120d4b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/347d56ba5bc81f99/1fb53b2c48120d4b?show_docid=1fb53b2c48120d4b"/>
  <title type="text">adult website accounts</title>
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  the following adult websites are available at massively reduced prices &lt;br&gt; (all are &amp;quot;acquired&amp;quot; by me personally lol ;-) ) &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.fuckingdungeon.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.hogtied.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.devicebondage.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.tsseduction.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://videoz.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://vip.pornaccess.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.smotheredslave.com/members&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.bangbros.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; -
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Liz</name>
  <email>fraternobom...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-07T06:36:48Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/3f5117e05bfe6ab6/c09b551047f83518?show_docid=c09b551047f83518"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Color Correcting Lens Coatings?</title>
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  Fascinating!!! I think this is what birds do (bear with me). They &lt;br&gt; have drops of colored oil in each cone, which sharply cuts off the &lt;br&gt; spectrum it can pick up on one side of its curve. This is supposed to &lt;br&gt; allow the bird to distinguish more colors, or different colors more &lt;br&gt; easily. It must only work if the brain somehow sorts the input from
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