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Robert Montgomery  
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 More options Oct 1, 10:16 am
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From: Robert Montgomery <info-bl...@northern-data-tech.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:16:27 GMT
Local: Thurs, Oct 1 2009 10:16 am
Subject: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
How harmful to teeth, gums and insulin levels are evaporated cane juice
and evaporated cane sugar, compared to other sweeteners, such as sugar,
sucrose, fructose, honey and syrop?

I read some information on the Net that said that unrefined sugar cane
juice is okay, but I want to confirm that.

I'm looking for some cookies that will satisfy my sweet teeth without
damaging my teeth or agravating my gum disease and insulin levels.

I've been eating Voortman's sugar-free cookies, but I'm concerned about
those, too, because they're sweetened partly with acesulfame potassium,
which wasn't sufficiently tested before being released to the public by
the FDA, according to the Center for Science in the Public Interest and
others.

Robert


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Dartos  
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 More options Oct 1, 3:17 pm
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From: Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 1 2009 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
On Sep 30, 7:16 pm, Robert Montgomery <info-bl...@northern-data-

tech.net> wrote:
> How harmful to teeth, gums and insulin levels are evaporated cane juice
> and evaporated cane sugar, compared to other sweeteners, such as sugar,
> sucrose, fructose, honey and syrop?

Probably selling something, right?  'Evaporated' cane juice and
'evaporated' cane sugar
is still SUCROSE.  The concentration would be the only consideration.
With sugar,
the dental disease risks go up as the concentration rises.
'Evaporation' increases the concentration
and gets you right up there with other 'syrups'.

> I'm looking for some cookies that will satisfy my sweet teeth without
> damaging my teeth or agravating my gum disease and insulin levels.

Best thing I've found so far is using SplendaŽ.  Won't bake a cake
though, without using 50/50 with
sugar.

JMO,
Steve Fawks DDS


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vaughn  
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 More options Oct 1, 10:57 pm
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From: "vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESS...@gmail.FAKE.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:57:20 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 1 2009 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice

"Dartos" <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote in message

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Best thing I've found so far is using SplendaŽ.  Won't bake a cake
though, without using 50/50 with sugar

     You can make a very acceptable whole-berry cranberry sauce with
Splenda.  I use Splenda plus the juice & pulp from one orange.

Vaughn


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The Webby  
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 More options Oct 2, 4:02 am
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From: The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:02:30 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 2 2009 4:02 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
In article <ha28vg$4d...@news.eternal-september.org>,

 "vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESS...@gmail.FAKE.com> wrote:
> "Dartos" <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote in message
> news:82cabf77-64b2-4642-8c17-508dabea8e5e@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Best thing I've found so far is using SplendaŽ.  Won't bake a cake
> though, without using 50/50 with sugar

>      You can make a very acceptable whole-berry cranberry sauce with
> Splenda.  I use Splenda plus the juice & pulp from one orange.

> Vaughn

I see it's time for cooking-talk!  We (maybe not everyone) know when and
why that happens.   ;-)

Webby


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Nunyerbidnez Atall  
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 More options Oct 2, 7:55 am
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From: Nunyerbidnez Atall <Nunyerbid...@all.invalid>
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:55:28 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 2 2009 7:55 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Dartos

What about xylitol? Research shows it is good for gums, no?
I have been using xylitol for a couple years, thinking - from what
I've read  that it's good for teeth and gums, or at least not harmful.
No?

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Robert Montgomery  
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 More options Oct 3, 4:16 am
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From: Robert Montgomery <info-bl...@northern-data-tech.net>
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:16:17 GMT
Local: Sat, Oct 3 2009 4:16 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice

Yes. Xylitol not just benign, it's acutually beneficial at reducing
cavities (and may be good for gums, too – I'm not sure about the gums).
But I don't recall seeing any cookie ingedients lists on the packaging
at the supermarkets – or even health food stores – that included Xylitol.

Robert


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Robert Montgomery  
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 More options Oct 3, 5:14 am
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From: Robert Montgomery <info-bl...@northern-data-tech.net>
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:14:17 GMT
Local: Sat, Oct 3 2009 5:14 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice

Dartos wrote:
> On Sep 30, 7:16 pm, Robert Montgomery <info-bl...@northern-data-
> tech.net> wrote:
>> How harmful to teeth, gums and insulin levels are evaporated cane juice
>> and evaporated cane sugar, compared to other sweeteners, such as sugar,
>> sucrose, fructose, honey and syrop?

> Probably selling something, right?  

Wrong.

Perhaps you are selling Splenda?

Splenda is a poinsonous chlorocarbon. It's in the same class of
chemicals as DDT, PCBs and Agent Orange, all of which contain chlorine.
No long-term studies have been done on it, and most of the studies that
found it to be safe were funded by the manufacturer.

http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/

A new short-term study on rats conducted at Duke University found
"numerous adverse effects, including (1) reduction in beneficial fecal
microflora, (2) increased fecal pH, and (3) enhanced expression levels
of P-gp, CYP3A4, and CYP2D1, which are known to limit the
bioavailability of orally administered drugs."

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all?content=10.1080/15287...

Robert


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Robert Montgomery  
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 More options Oct 5, 11:43 pm
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From: Robert Montgomery <info-bl...@northern-data-tech.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:43:34 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 5 2009 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice

So, Steve, are you still having your cake and lacing it, too, with Splenda?

You didn't respond to my letter. Is it because you've been hospitalized
from eating too many of those Splenda-laced cakes and cookies?   ;-)

As a DDS, you should know better than adding Splenda to your food.

I've dubbed Splenda "The Splendid Poison".

Robert Mongermery, BAA


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Dartos  
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 More options Oct 8, 4:42 am
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From: Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:42:02 -0500
Local: Thurs, Oct 8 2009 4:42 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice

As a reasonable human being that does not listen to every 'poison'
scandal on the internet, yes I use SplendaŽ in some cooking.  My
wife is diabetic so carb content is important.  From a dental
standpoint, so is the exposure to simple sugars.

I would have replied sooner if I had realized it was so important
to you (plus I've been in Hawaii the last 9 days <G>).

Best wishes,
Steve Fawks


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The Webby  
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 More options Oct 8, 6:58 am
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From: The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:58:18 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 8 2009 6:58 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
Aloha!!!!
When I was living in Hawaii as a kid, sugar cane was a favored treat.  I
didn't care for it... but I was the exception.  I preferred dried squid,
cuttlefish and other "delicacies".  I never knew what candy bars were
... I guess they hadn't made it to the middle of the Pacific during the
50's but I'm sure there was plenty of junk to destroy kids teeth!

Webby

In article <1254930576_22...@news.newsville.com>,


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 More options Oct 8, 8:42 am
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From: "vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESS...@gmail.FAKE.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:42:34 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 8 2009 8:42 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice

"The Webby" <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net> wrote in message

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> When I was living in Hawaii as a kid, sugar cane was a favored treat.

I used to grow that stuff in my back yard.   All you need to do is buy a
stalk at a fruit stand, cut off a few of the joints, plant same, & stand
back.  Oh yes; move to South Florida first or those instructions may not
work. ;-)

Vaughn


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The Webby  
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 More options Oct 8, 9:29 am
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From: The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:29:28 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 8 2009 9:29 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
In article <haj5gm$70...@news.eternal-september.org>,

 "vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESS...@gmail.FAKE.com> wrote:
> "The Webby" <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:tmjiatroepidemic-F29EF4.13581707102009@newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com..
> .

> > When I was living in Hawaii as a kid, sugar cane was a favored treat.

> I used to grow that stuff in my back yard.   All you need to do is buy a
> stalk at a fruit stand, cut off a few of the joints, plant same, & stand
> back.  Oh yes; move to South Florida first or those instructions may not
> work. ;-)

> Vaughn

Probably not a chance of them working in southern Nevada either!!!

Webby


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Nunyerbidnez Atall  
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 More options Oct 26, 5:04 pm
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From: Nunyerbidnez Atall <Nunyerbid...@all.invalid>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:04:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
I'm not on an anti-splenda crusade, but have you ever considered using
xylitol or stevia instead of splenda? I believe xylitol is actually
good for the teeth and gums, and stevia has no calories nor negatives
at all, from what I've heard.

Xylitol is okay for diabetics, I'm pretty sure, and I know Stevia is.

I swtiched to xylitol because it looks like sugar and acts like sugar
except it's less sweet and healthier. I don't like the taste of stevia
but some do. Try various brands before you give up, some were almost
okay with me, others were very bitter or had a weird after taste. But
all xylitols I've tried taste the same.


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Dartos  
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 More options Oct 28, 12:31 am
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From: Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:31:18 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 12:31 am
Subject: Re: Evaporated cane sugar and evaporated cane juice
Sounds reasonable.
D


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