> First off, Den Mat products are overpriced crap.
> You can get better materials for lower cost.
No need to say more.
...
> OK, I'll take a stab at it.
> First off, Den Mat products are overpriced crap.
> You can get better materials for lower cost.
> Second, there is no way to make a 'no-prep' dental restoration.
> The restoration, especially porcelain, must have some thickness
> for strength.
> The stupid 'contact lens' marketing is laughable, even lenses
> for the eye have thickness, and are for a vastly different function.
> Thirdly isolation during the 'bonding' procedure is paramount..!!!
> You cannot bond in a wet field with current materials, despite the
> hype of 'wet field bonding'.
> Have been using Calibra for porcelain veneers for years.
> Only two failures in 20 years, and that was due to fractured
> porcelain because of abnormal incisal forces.
> <0.01% failure rate.
> Veneer cases must be protected from parafunction, include
> a night guard of your choice.
> Recommend the NTI; include it for 'free' at delivery.
> My SisTaH <AmatusCremona> has a couple of decades of experience
> bonding porcelain restorations.
> If you are lucky, and she has a mind to chime in,
> you may receive a couple of diamonds of porcelain bonding info.
> Lastly, my advice to you is to immediately cease and desist from
> providing 'Lumineers' .
> The concept is faulty, despite the success of the media
> blitz campaign.
> Provide all of your previous 'lumineer clients' with *any* type of
> night-guard as soon as possible.
> Best wishes, Frenchy in London,
> -newB
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:07:01 -0700 (PDT), French dental practice in
> London <frenchdentalpract...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>Hi everyone,
>>since I tried using Lumineers, I keep having problems.
>>some chipped in different ways, but the main problem is that he
>>lutting process seems not reliable in my hands.
>>I use all the genuine denmat products, follow exactly the guidlines
>>but 15% of te placed lumineers fell off.
>>I must say that I am an experienced cosmetic dentist having placed a
>>large number of traditional veneers before, without any problem.
>>any suggestion? do you use any bonding protocol/products other than
>>those recommended by cerinate?
>>thanks for your comments.
>>bertrand