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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:56:57 GMT
Local: Thurs, Apr 3 2008 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote in news:33e797e8-8f0c-4fc6-912c-0e71f97532b1
@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> I think ... fucked up ... reasoning

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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
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> Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

>> Would you make up your mind what your question actually is?

> Are you Georgie? I don't think so.

A litle cranky, eh?

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 More options Apr 3 2008, 8:00 pm
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From: auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis. net (Florian)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:00:09 +0200
Local: Thurs, Apr 3 2008 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
> I don't deny the existence of ridges.  I see no evidence that the ridges are
> extruding ice.

Georgie, there is crystalline ice along the ridges:

<http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03551>

Crystalline ice is transformed into amorphous ice by UV and cosmic
radiation in less than 1000 years. It means that it recently forms
either by freezing of liquid water or vapor and that water came from the
ridges.

It is exactly the same phenomenon as the oceanic ridges, except that the
main component of the eruption is water.

So Georgie, do you question the existence of ridges extruding water on
enceladus?

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ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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From: "George" <Geo...@george.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:04:51 -0500
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message

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Floppy, since that region on Enceladus is exactly the same region where
there is highly active geysers on the moon, did it not occur to you that the
origin of the very young crystalline surface coating of ice is the geyser
activity?  The geyser activity is not coming from the ridges.  It is coming
from the fractures (what they refer to as the tiget stripes) between the
ridges.  Duh!

George


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 More options Apr 4 2008, 6:23 am
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From: auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis. net (Florian)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 22:23:52 +0200
Local: Fri, Apr 4 2008 6:23 am
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
> Floppy, since that region on Enceladus is exactly the same region where
> there is highly active geysers on the moon, did it not occur to you that the
> origin of the very young crystalline surface coating of ice is the geyser
> activity?  The geyser activity is not coming from the ridges.  It is coming
> from the fractures (what they refer to as the tiget stripes) between the
> ridges.  Duh!

Is it a joke or what?

The "tiger stripes "ARE the ridges we're talking about! Those are the
ridges you deny they extrude ice! God are you dumb!

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ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer


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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:22:14 GMT
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
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> God are you dumb!

The only dumb one here is you. Is English a second language for
you? Because you seem to have an utter lack of comprehension
of what is being told to you.

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From: auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis. net (Florian)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:50:57 +0200
Local: Sat, Apr 5 2008 2:50 am
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
> news:1ieue4g.9k3rnl1g6p674N%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net:

> > God are you dumb!

> The only dumb one here is you. Is English a second language for
> you? Because you seem to have an utter lack of comprehension
> of what is being told to you.

Incredible! Even Georgie has a buffoon!
That is pretty damn low on the scale...

--
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ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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 More options Apr 5 2008, 1:22 pm
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From: "George" <Geo...@george.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:22:51 -0500
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message

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> George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:

>> Floppy, since that region on Enceladus is exactly the same region where
>> there is highly active geysers on the moon, did it not occur to you that
>> the
>> origin of the very young crystalline surface coating of ice is the geyser
>> activity?  The geyser activity is not coming from the ridges.  It is
>> coming
>> from the fractures (what they refer to as the tiget stripes) between the
>> ridges.  Duh!

> Is it a joke or what?

> The "tiger stripes "ARE the ridges we're talking about! Those are the
> ridges you deny they extrude ice! God are you dumb!

Wrong:

http://www.universetoday.com/2007/10/10/old-faithful-on-enceladus/

Saturn's moon Enceladus is one of the most peculiar objects in the Solar
System. We now know there are geysers of water ice blasting from its
southern pole; a place marked with long gashes that researchers have dubbed
"tiger stripes". Ever since the geysers were first discovered, scientists
have been puzzling out their source. Now they understand how the geysers and
tiger stripes are linked.

New research by the Cassini imaging team, CICLOPS, shows that the jets of
Enceladus emanate from its southern pole, pouring out of four of the tiger
stripes. The researchers have named them Alexandria, Cairo, Baghdad and
Damascus. Of the four, Baghdad and Damascus are the most active and
Alexandria is the least.
By taking Cassini's two-year observations of the jets that spray from the
surface, and combining this with thermal imaging of the stripes, the team
was able to determine that the jets were spraying vertically out of the
stripes, which are ***cracks (i.e, fractures) on the surface of
Enceladus.***


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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:40:58 GMT
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
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> Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

>> auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
>> news:1ieue4g.9k3rnl1g6p674N%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net:

>> > God are you dumb!

>> The only dumb one here is you. Is English a second language for
>> you? Because you seem to have an utter lack of comprehension
>> of what is being told to you.

> Incredible! Even Georgie has a buffoon!
> That is pretty damn low on the scale...

I'm not saying he's right (or wrong). I'm only saying you don't
seem to comprehend what he is telling you.

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From: auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis. net (Florian)
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:17:51 +0200
Local: Sat, Apr 5 2008 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
>  ***cracks (i.e, fractures) on the surface of
> Enceladus.***

Georgie, on Earth, how do you call the features where oceanic
lithosphere is emplaced? Don't you call them ridges?
Don't you understand that the "tiger stripes" are ridges?

--
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ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:17:50 +0200
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> I'm not saying he's right (or wrong). I'm only saying you don't
> seem to comprehend what he is telling you.

I do understand that he's constantly at lost. Georgie is wrong most of
the time. His speciality is denying and backpeddling.
There is no hope for that guy.

--
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"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:30:41 GMT
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
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> Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

>> I'm not saying he's right (or wrong). I'm only saying you don't
>> seem to comprehend what he is telling you.

> I do understand that he's constantly at lost. Georgie is wrong most of
> the time. His speciality is denying and backpeddling.
> There is no hope for that guy.

Yep. Thank you. You just proved yourself a crank.

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From: auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis. net (Florian)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:19:17 +0200
Local: Sun, Apr 6 2008 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> > I do understand that he's constantly at lost. Georgie is wrong most of
> > the time. His speciality is denying and backpeddling.
> > There is no hope for that guy.

> Yep. Thank you. You just proved yourself a crank.

LOL, Ask Georgie if we can tell that the frequency of major volcanic
episode increased on Mars, from that figure:

<http://www.esa.int/images/ChronologyModel_v02_H.jpg>

The guy assured me it was not! See his answer in
<news:JlzEj.32818$by3.18153@bignews5.bellsouth.net>

He can't correctly read a simple graph.
I tell you, there is no hope. But you're free to side with him.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:37:18 GMT
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
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> He can't correctly read a simple graph.
> I tell you, there is no hope. But you're free to side with him.

Yep. Typical Crank logic.

George being right or wrong is irrelevant. I have made no comments
either way.

My siding with him or not is irrelevant. Again, I have made no
comments either way.

You are still a Crank. *THAT* is the comment I am making. But because
you are a Crank, you can't see that. It's in your nature.

Brian


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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:19:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

Why is he a crank?  What is his nature?  How do you divine these
things?


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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:21:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message

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> George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:

>>  ***cracks (i.e, fractures) on the surface of
>> Enceladus.***

> Georgie, on Earth, how do you call the features where oceanic
> lithosphere is emplaced? Don't you call them ridges?
> Don't you understand that the "tiger stripes" are ridges?

El moron, the lava is not extruded on the ridges.  The lava is extruded on
the rift valley floors.  The ridges parallel the central rift valley where
all the action takes place.  Whether we are talking about a MOR or the tiger
stripes on Enceladus, the extrusions (be it ice or lava) do not occur on the
parallel ridges, but in the fracture zones between them.

George


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From: auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis. net (Florian)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:17:10 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 7 2008 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
> Why is he a crank?  What is his nature?  How do you divine these
> things?

This guy is just a troll. He presents zero interest.

--
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ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:17:11 +0200
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
> "Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
> news:1iex8jf.ok8yjtk3pp5jN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
> > George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:

> >>  ***cracks (i.e, fractures) on the surface of
> >> Enceladus.***

> > Georgie, on Earth, how do you call the features where oceanic
> > lithosphere is emplaced? Don't you call them ridges?
> > Don't you understand that the "tiger stripes" are ridges?

> El moron, the lava is not extruded on the ridges.  The lava is extruded on
> the rift valley floors.

No kidding!
Only a moron like you would suggest that I meant the lava or ice is
extruded ON the ridges.
Your poor attempt won't be sufficient to hide that you were denying
there is the equivalent of Earth's MOR (note the R for Ridge!) on
Enceladus.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

George can tap-dance across more tables than Fred Astair - when he's
not blundering into them, that is...


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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message

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> don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:

>> Why is he a crank?  What is his nature?  How do you divine these
>> things?

> This guy is just a troll. He presents zero interest.

> --
> Florian

That must be why you respond.

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Umm, your words, Floppy:

"Sounds like you deny the existence of ridges extruding ice".

When you backpedal, you usually go nowhere fast.

George


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 More options Apr 8 2008, 9:49 am
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From: Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:49:54 GMT
Local: Tues, Apr 8 2008 9:49 am
Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote in news:27e309e9-33fd-4a47-bd7a-
ca3df78ff...@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

> Why is he a crank?  What is his nature?  How do you divine these
> things?

Look in the mirror, Findlay. You're more of a Crank than he is.

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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:50:52 GMT
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote in
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> don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:

>> Why is he a crank?  What is his nature?  How do you divine these
>> things?

> This guy is just a troll. He presents zero interest.

Yep, typical Crank reply. You are so predictible as to be totally
boring.

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 More options Apr 8 2008, 11:45 am
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From: don findlay <d...@tower.net.au>
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:45:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

Skywise wrote:
> don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote in news:27e309e9-33fd-4a47-bd7a-
> ca3df78ff...@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

> > Why is he a crank?  What is his nature?  How do you divine these
> > things?

> Look in the mirror, Findlay. You're more of a Crank than he is.

Hi Brian, ..  Welcome back.  Good job you turned up when you did.
They're needing some intellectual support around here.  It's not just
a sinking ship you're coming to, it's a sinking *Titanic*, and Stuart
has set out in his rubber gear to try to save the day
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/rubber.html
However since he doesn't know where he's coming from and doesn't know
where he's going, it's good to see you've come and know he's not
alone.


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 More options Apr 8 2008, 2:40 pm
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:40:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: New pictures of enceladus

You're a blundering idiot, George.  Your only consolation is that
Stuart is not far in front of you.

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