It is over 8 years ago that I began to explain the reasoning behind the rotation of our planet through 360 degrees in 24 hours or what amounts to the same thing,it will rotate 1669.8 km for every 15 degrees/1 hour at the Equator and a full 40,075 km in 24 hours -
It is now a painful experience to encounter a total disregard for the most basic of all planetary facts of shape and dimensions organised around the Earth's rotational characteristics due to the dominance of the 'sidereal time' value and the flawed reasoning which originated through John Flamsteed in trying to do something no astronomer ever did - try to justify the rotation of the constellations around Polaris using planetary dynamics -
Why,for goodness sake,would an entire civilisation abandon the sprawling history of timekeeping averages surrounding both the astronomical principles and the creation of accurate watches which reflect rotation once in 24 hours or at a rate of 15 degrees every hour that any sane person can seen from spinning the globes above ? .
This is not just about a simple fact of the value for the Earth's rotation for that only focuses attention on the situation,this is about the temporary dominance of thinking which is a complete dishonor to the human race,a cancer borne of cowardice and mediocrity for surely no intelligence person would argue against the 24 hour value which contains all the information on planetary shape and dimensions.
I do not,do not know how people can do this for there is not the slightest goodness in following a stupid error created by one person in the late 17th century in trying to explain planetary motions through the motions of the constellations around Polaris.Financial meltdowns and 'climate change' are nothing compared to this shocking situations where nobody can tell that the Earth is round,rotating and takes 24 hours to turn once.
> It is over 8 years ago that I began to explain the reasoning behind > the rotation of our planet through 360 degrees in 24 hours or what > amounts to the same thing,it will rotate 1669.8 km for every 15 > degrees/1 hour at the Equator and a full 40,075 km in 24 hours -
> It is now a painful experience to encounter a total disregard for the > most basic of all planetary facts of shape and dimensions organised > around the Earth's rotational characteristics due to the dominance of > the 'sidereal time' value and the flawed reasoning which originated > through John Flamsteed in trying to do something no astronomer ever > did - try to justify the rotation of the constellations around Polaris > using planetary dynamics -
> Why,for goodness sake,would an entire civilisation abandon the > sprawling history of timekeeping averages surrounding both the > astronomical principles and the creation of accurate watches which > reflect rotation once in 24 hours or at a rate of 15 degrees every > hour that any sane person can seen from spinning the globes above ? .
> This is not just about a simple fact of the value for the Earth's > rotation for that only focuses attention on the situation,this is > about the temporary dominance of thinking which is a complete dishonor > to the human race,a cancer borne of cowardice and mediocrity for > surely no intelligence person would argue against the 24 hour value > which contains all the information on planetary shape and dimensions.
> I do not,do not know how people can do this for there is not the > slightest goodness in following a stupid error created by one person > in the late 17th century in trying to explain planetary motions > through the motions of the constellations around Polaris.Financial > meltdowns and 'climate change' are nothing compared to this shocking > situations where nobody can tell that the Earth is round,rotating and > takes 24 hours to turn once.
If you don't understand frames of reference you are doomed, and since you do not have the ability to actually learn anything new, you are permanently stuck.
360 degrees per 24 hours is only true with respect to the sun.
Period.
End of discussion.
There is no stupid error created by one person, only a stupid interpretation by one person...
> On Nov 1, 12:11 pm, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is over 8 years ago that I began to explain the reasoning behind > > the rotation of our planet through 360 degrees in 24 hours or what > > amounts to the same thing,it will rotate 1669.8 km for every 15 > > degrees/1 hour at the Equator and a full 40,075 km in 24 hours -
> > It is now a painful experience to encounter a total disregard for the > > most basic of all planetary facts of shape and dimensions organised > > around the Earth's rotational characteristics due to the dominance of > > the 'sidereal time' value and the flawed reasoning which originated > > through John Flamsteed in trying to do something no astronomer ever > > did - try to justify the rotation of the constellations around Polaris > > using planetary dynamics -
> > Why,for goodness sake,would an entire civilisation abandon the > > sprawling history of timekeeping averages surrounding both the > > astronomical principles and the creation of accurate watches which > > reflect rotation once in 24 hours or at a rate of 15 degrees every > > hour that any sane person can seen from spinning the globes above ? .
> > This is not just about a simple fact of the value for the Earth's > > rotation for that only focuses attention on the situation,this is > > about the temporary dominance of thinking which is a complete dishonor > > to the human race,a cancer borne of cowardice and mediocrity for > > surely no intelligence person would argue against the 24 hour value > > which contains all the information on planetary shape and dimensions.
> > I do not,do not know how people can do this for there is not the > > slightest goodness in following a stupid error created by one person > > in the late 17th century in trying to explain planetary motions > > through the motions of the constellations around Polaris.Financial > > meltdowns and 'climate change' are nothing compared to this shocking > > situations where nobody can tell that the Earth is round,rotating and > > takes 24 hours to turn once.
> If you don't understand frames of reference you are doomed, and since > you do not have the ability to actually learn anything new, you are > permanently stuck.
In some circles that is called the 'language of non-thought",it appears to say something to those who know no better but is actually a cult trait
> 360 degrees per 24 hours is only true with respect to the sun.
> Period.
This cult which attaches the wrong value for daily rotation,a value which contains all the information on planetary shape and rotational characteristics relies on its members positively refusing to believe what is written and before them regardless of the authority,in this case Huygens -
"Here take notice, that the Sun or the Earth passeth the 12. Signes, or makes an entire revolution in the Ecliptick in 365 days, 5 hours 49 min. or there about, and that those days, reckon'd from noon to noon, are of different lenghts; as is known to all that are vers'd in Astronomy." Huygens
When geologists can't look at a simple world globe,turn it through 15 degrees and see the geography of the planet move 1669.8 km at the Equator then they are in big trouble as the data arriving from the GOCE satellite,if it does its job properly will indicate a relationship between the fractured surface crust and the rotation of the viscous composition beneath it.
Unlike the surface crust,the rotation of the viscous interior will rotate unevenly from its maximum speed at the Equator towards the geographical poles and while the following tables show the decreasing rotational speeds for different latitudes ,information which contains the values for each 4 minutes of rotation -
What has happened is unconscionable,not the mistake by Flamsteed in the 17th century but now,today as geologists look on and do nothing even though their discipline will increasingly rely on planetary dynamics now that the symmetrical generation of crust off the Mid Atlantic ridge and fracture zones which display the signatures of the rotational mechanism beneath the crust.
> End of discussion.
> There is no stupid error created by one person, only a stupid > interpretation by one person...
A stupid,stupid 'sidereal time' conception that is a complete dishonor to the human race and contrary to all known astronomical principles and the sprawling history surrounding longitude -
I refuse to believe people are so cowardly that they would sacrifice their own area of study to uphold the ideas of an empiricist cult,even if they rely on the empirical approach for their wages.People are going to have to bite the bullet and just go on ahead and set aside the reasoning behind 'sidereal time' which causes unsurmountable difficulties where planetary dynamics are needed for who else can alter this dismal situation where scientists can express basic planetary facts.
On Nov 11, 11:47 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A stupid,stupid 'sidereal time' conception that is a complete dishonor > to the human race and contrary to all known astronomical principles > and the sprawling history surrounding longitude -
The problem with this statement is that sidereal time is NOT just a conception, it is an easily measurable fact, one that you can do yourself. One does not need to belong to a cult to perform a simple timing.
On Nov 15, 11:30 pm, palsing <pnals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 11:47 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A stupid,stupid 'sidereal time' conception that is a complete dishonor > > to the human race and contrary to all known astronomical principles > > and the sprawling history surrounding longitude -
> The problem with this statement is that sidereal time is NOT just a > conception, it is an easily measurable fact, one that you can do > yourself.
Even geologists looking at the time lapse footage can spot the apparent rotation of the constellation Ursa Major or the 'Big Dipper' around Polaris at the bottom left side of the screen -
No astronomer worthy of the name,from remote antiquity up to the time of Flamsteed, ever linked the rotation of the constellations around Polaris with the daily cycle ,it is much like the unfortunate guy who thinks he sees a skull in a layer of coal and draws a silly conclusion,that is how awful Flamsteed's statement actually is -
"... our clocks kept so good a correspondence with the Heavens that I doubt it not but they would prove the revolutions of the Earth to be isochronical..." Flamsteed
There is an incredible satisfaction in accumulating ideas which arise from the details of planetary dynamics and especially the links between daily rotation and geological signatures such as the magnificent symmetrical generation of crust that divides Africa/Europe from the Americas and that lovely jewel known as the Romanche trench which encapsulates the rotation of the viscous interior and its effects on the fracture crust -
Come what may,there is always a lovely feeling moving into new conceptual territory based on applying rotational dynamics to terrestrial sciences,that the empirical stranglehold on astronomy is built on the wrong facts for basic planetary facts of dimensions,shape and rotational characteristics,facts easily gleaned by spinning a simple globe where the geography of the equatorial region turns 1669.8 km per hour and an entire circumference in 24 hours hours stands as a beacon for the 'sidereal time' freaks who imagine it otherwise.
One does not need to belong to a cult to perform a simple
On Nov 16, 10:06 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No astronomer worthy of the name,from remote antiquity up to the time > of Flamsteed, ever linked the rotation of the constellations around > Polaris with the daily cycle...
That is true, but what does that have to do with anything? I've told you before, the solar day and the sidereal day don't have much in common, they each measure Earth's rotation with respect to different frames of reference.
The Earth, the moon, the other planets, etc., just do what they do, and all we can do is observe, take notes, and formulate theories. At this point in time, pretty much everything about the mechanics of the whole shebang is extremely well known, and documented 6 ways from Sunday, and it is virtually impossible that you could ever come up with a "new" idea, force, or "orbital specific", and any such thinking on your part is just a dead-end.
Without a rudimentary knowledge of frames of reference, you have no chance of understanding it all...
On Nov 18, 5:20 am, palsing <pnals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 10:06 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No astronomer worthy of the name,from remote antiquity up to the time > > of Flamsteed, ever linked the rotation of the constellations around > > Polaris with the daily cycle...
> That is true, but what does that have to do with anything?
No geologist worthy of the name can consider the triumvirate of geometry,geography and geography in any terms other than rotation at a rate of 15 degrees per hour amounting to 1669.8 km for each 15 degrees/ 1 hour at the Equator -
The reason that 'convection cells' exist as the posited mechanism for crustal evolution is due to the unhealthy situation which sees the loss of the most basic planetary facts due to 'sidereal time' reasoning which pins the daily cycle to the rotation of the constellations around Polaris for each star in the constellation will return to the same position in 23 hours 56 minutes based on timekeeping averages -
So,whether people like it or not,terrestrial sciences now exist at a point at which intelligence ceases and it is not possible to fall any lower yet despite this huge crisis,there is no sign that there is a movement away from this human tragedy and in the direction of productive investigations based on interpretation rather than outright speculation.
> you before, the solar day and the sidereal day don't have much in > common, they each measure Earth's rotation with respect to different > frames of reference.
> The Earth, the moon, the other planets, etc., just do what they do, > and all we can do is observe, take notes, and formulate theories. At > this point in time, pretty much everything about the mechanics of the > whole shebang is extremely well known, and documented 6 ways from > Sunday, and it is virtually impossible that you could ever come up > with a "new" idea, force, or "orbital specific", and any such thinking > on your part is just a dead-end.
> Without a rudimentary knowledge of frames of reference, you have no > chance of understanding it all...
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