See the faults? See the ice ridges? Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
-- Florian "Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée; ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
> See the faults? See the ice ridges? > Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
> It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
> -- > Florian > "Toute v rit passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculis e; > ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d' tre accept e comme > une totale vidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
How do you know it's not subducting round the back? It could be argued (within Plate Tectonics) that it could be is proof that it is. And anyway, every one of those creases you see could be *evidence* that it's subducting round the front as well.
It won't be long till that's proof that it is too. Ask Stuart.
Pity you had to choose April the first for this one :-) No fools on this newsgroup. You watch.
On 1 avr, 00:24, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
> Look out everybody, ...Florian's stuck a trojan on this one.
Well Don, Saturn is well beyond growing since it has lost its lithosphere in outer space & has been submitted to intense alchemical transformation to lighter elements .... Remember each planet beyond ours are older in True Geology term, while the ones before our position are younger ...
... and so has Enceladus !
Elementary Dr Watson
Do you want to take a trip to check that ???? Well, it won't be with that Retards ' rocket type of "fossil" fuel technology of course, neither will it be with anything they are tossing about in their futurist outlook ! Too long would it take indeed...
> On 1 avr, 00:24, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
> > Look out everybody, ...Florian's stuck a trojan on this one.
> Well Don, Saturn is well beyond growing since it has lost its > lithosphere in outer space & has been submitted to intense alchemical > transformation to lighter elements .... Remember each planet beyond > ours are older in True Geology term, while the ones before our > position are younger ...
> ... and so has Enceladus !
> Elementary Dr Watson
> Do you want to take a trip to check that ???? Well, it won't be with > that Retards ' rocket type of "fossil" fuel technology of course, > neither will it be with anything they are tossing about in their > futurist outlook ! > Too long would it take indeed...
> See the faults? See the ice ridges? > Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
> It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
Considering that it is venting prodigious amounts of matter (mostly in the form of water ice), one could easily argue that rather than gaining mass, it is losing it. The ice ridges are just pressure ridges, probably not unlike what we see in our own Arctic region. If anything, it is convincing evidence of a liquid subsurface.
> See the faults? See the ice ridges? > Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
Nope.
> It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
Ooh! What a cool word you've found!
About twenty years ago I lived in Denver. At the time, a friend of mine was hot-air balloon pilot. I'd occasionally help her out in launching and landing the balloon, and for my efforts I got some free rides. One such ride was over frozen Chatfield Reservoir. The thing was cracking and splitting,making some very cool space-war game sounds. I brought my Balloon Camera with me--one I would not be terribly upset if something bad were to happen to it--and took photos of the lake.
I was in a bit of a photography lull, so it was months before I got the film developed and pictures printed. In the mean time, Voyager had visited Jupiter and beamed back some astonishing photos.
Eventually I looked through the pictures I had taken. Ah, sunrise illuminating the snowy Rocky Mountains. Ah, the Chatfeild Recreation area balloon launch pad. Some balloons being launched. My friends. The surface of Europa. More pictures of Europa. Some trees sticking out of the ice. Wait a moment ... I don't recall having gone to Europa! Ah, that was frozen Chatfield Reservoir, which looks just like the surface of frozen Europa.
Enceladus looks like that, too, except it has more craters in some areas and is all folded and heaved and cracked in others, somewhat like the ice arena, where I play hockey, on a bad day.
No expansion is needed to explain this. That's just ice moving around under thermal and tidal stress.
-- Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com "When you post sewage, don't blame others for emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
In article <334b0241-7c16-4de1-ae06-0f8f4cf86...@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote: > On 1 avr, 00:24, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote: > > Look out everybody, ...Florian's stuck a trojan on this one.
> Well Don, Saturn is well beyond growing since it has lost its > lithosphere in outer space & has been submitted to intense alchemical > transformation to lighter elements
Like I said the other day: no schist.
And thus nominated.
> .... Remember each planet beyond > ours are older in True Geology term, while the ones before our > position are younger ...
> ... and so has Enceladus !
> Elementary Dr Watson
> Do you want to take a trip to check that ???? Well, it won't be with > that Retards ' rocket type of "fossil" fuel technology of course, > neither will it be with anything they are tossing about in their > futurist outlook ! > Too long would it take indeed...
> jpturcaud
-- Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com "When you post sewage, don't blame others for emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
> > See the faults? See the ice ridges? > > Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
> Nope.
Let's see, we have a surface with open faults and ridges extruding ice... So where is the ice going?
[...]
> No expansion is needed to explain this. That's just ice moving around > under thermal and tidal stress.
Of course, if you dare to compare a pond to a moon...
-- Florian "Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée; ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
George <Geo...@george.net> wrote: > Considering that it is venting prodigious amounts of matter (mostly in the > form of water ice), one could easily argue that rather than gaining mass, it > is losing it.
It is losing mass to ring E, but at the same time shows no sign of ice collapse or the like. In contrary, we have ice ridges spreading new ice and open cracks demonstrating tensional surface all over the moon...
That is a clinching case.
BTW Georgie, did the frequency of volcanic activity increased or decreased on Mars?
-- Florian "Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée; ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
Shalom Shabbat Rabbid dog, do you eat Kosher at long last ... gutless Groenstein ? ... ashamed of your name or something ?
Further they have never nor would let you in in Havana ... Eduardo liar !
... btw how are ya faring these days with that new aspect of the DDD ( Divine Drudging Drench ) ...the crocodiles are walking the streets now ?
Goood !
Coming back to that PE ( Planetary Expansion) issue, the Mechanism of such are unknown except of course in the True Geology approach !
The drama is that we have Savages rescuing a space ship in Papua - NG and trying to find out how it works ... with Papous ' scientists uttering their most balanced views on the subject to mesmerised audience, completely flabbergasted by the insight of their Scientists. Such analogy is excellent since it demonstrates the impossibility of those clowns of the present Official Geology to come to term with the reality ... Just beyond the scope of those Savages & Universities mind programmed fools ...
... in another fields they are the same who beuuulieve that germs cause dizeazezz & chemical fertiliserzz increase yields ... etc
Pathetic
Jean-Paul Turcaud Discoverer of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre mines in the Great Sandy Desert Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant Bus ph + 33 6 50 17 14 64 Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~
On 1 avr, 06:58, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
> Like I said the other day: no schist.
> And thus nominated.
Nominated ? Shist ? What do you mean ?
Incidentally why don't you see cracks in the ice when the water is freezing ??? ... since indeed ice is expanding when it does freeze ...
Hence those cracks in your iced lake were due to thawing ...Elementary Dr Watson ! ...resolutely refuting your analogy.
jpturcaud
> -- > Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>http://www.timberwoof.com > "When you post sewage, don't blame others for > emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
Georgie, do you deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus?
-- Florian "Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée; ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
> Georgie, do you deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus?
Did I say that I deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus? No, of course I didn't. But you didn't respond to my request. You simply obfuscated once again. Well?
George <Geo...@george.net> wrote: > Did I say that I deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus? No, of course I > didn't.
"Umm, ridges extruding ice?"
Sounds like you deny the existence of ridges extruding ice. So, Georgie, do you deny them yes or not?
-- Florian "Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée; ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
>> Georgie, do you deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus?
> Did I say that I deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus? No, of course I > didn't. But you didn't respond to my request. You simply obfuscated once > again. Well?
So how does ice tectonics differ from our version? What puzzles me is that so many of these ice moons are heavily cratered and old. But we also see rather young and active areas. So I guess ice tectonics would be a much slower process than on earth? Whatdya think?
*> *> So how does ice tectonics differ from our version? *> What puzzles me is that so many of these ice moons *> are heavily cratered and old. But we also see rather *> young and active areas. So I guess ice tectonics would *> be a much slower process than on earth? *> Whatdya think?
I think you are all fucked up with that type of reasoning : Quote Enceladus is much too small to be heated solely by the decay of radioactive material in its interior at present. But briefly after its formation 4.5 billion years ago short-lived radioisotopes may have provided enough heat to melt and differentiate the interior. That combined with modest present day heating from long-lived isotopes and tidal heating may account for the present day activity on Enceladus. Unquote
... and please stop talking about that tectonics folly for Saturn & vicinity, that dizeaze must be confined to that Earth mental asylum...
Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote: > Would you make up your mind what your question actually is?
Are you Georgie? I don't think so. Georgie questions the existence of ridges extruding ice on enceladus.
So please, let him answer the question, OK?
-- Florian "Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée; ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
and of course the usual comments from Rabbid Groenstein & heinous Tyrwhitt 's son, Christopher, alias Sunny ...
... while the Mining & Political Manure receive only praise for their Criminal Swindlling & Forfeiture / Dereliction of duty / Money Extortion etc This goes to prove that in the Land of Bastards, australia, only the worse Convict Rabble deserves "respect" & "honour" ! It demonstrates as well that in this Antipodean Hell On Earth of australia, all values are inverted such as Lie becomes Truth & most abject yellow Cowardice is most admirable ...
A country to be avoided at all cost under pain of a slow death life sentence : death of the mind, of the spirit and then of the body ! Death in that Hell on Earth seen as delivrance & release from suffering from over saturated evil miasmas emanating from such heaps of manure, aka austrlaians, exhaling their hate of beauty & their contempt for intelligence .... especially for sensible & inspired Geological acumen & understanding !
The DDD being in full force now ( Divine Drudging Drought & Divine Drudging Drench ) we can only congratulate ourselves on the stern application of the Almighty 's Laws of Eternal Justice & Divine Retribution upon that Antipodean Manure ! .. and I have issued command that such should be scaled up !!!
>> Would you make up your mind what your question actually is?
> Are you Georgie? I don't think so. Georgie questions the existence of > ridges extruding ice on enceladus.
> So please, let him answer the question, OK?
I don't deny the existence of ridges. I see no evidence that the ridges are extruding ice. The ridges could just as easily have been formed due to tidal forces in the subsurface, as shown by the example of ice ridges on the Antarctic ice sheet (a link to which you conveneniently deleded in your earlier response, and on which never made any comment). For ice to extrude implies that there is a fracture system from which the ice is extruding. Now, there are lots of fractures on the ice-covered surface of enceladus, so if you want to change your theory to include fracture systems as a primary means for ice "extrusion", be my guest. either way, it doesn't lead to your claim that the moon is expanding. Evidence for that would necessarily include measurements that the diameter of the moon is increasing, and that its mass is increasing. Where are those measurements, Floppy?
> < Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote in message > news:33e797e8-8f0c-4fc6-912c-0e71f97532b1@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>. and please stop talking about that tectonics folly for Saturn & >>vicinity, that dizeaze must be confined to that Earth mental >>asylum...
> Something to keep you company in your rubber room no doubt?
Gee, is he still knitting invisible sweaters? I thought they took his knitting needles away from him. Poor sod.
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