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Jim Flanagan  
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 More options Nov 8, 8:22 am
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From: Jim Flanagan <jf...@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:22:42 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 8:22 am
Subject: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
anyone have an extra
they want to sell or barter?  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.  Mine
is being used in a sample
and hold circuit that bit the dust.  I'm trying to not have to kludge a fix.

Thanks
Jim


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Jamie  
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 More options Nov 8, 9:28 am
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From: Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:28:13 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 9:28 am
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

Jim Flanagan wrote:
> I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
> anyone have an extra
> they want to sell or barter?  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.  Mine
> is being used in a sample
> and hold circuit that bit the dust.  I'm trying to not have to kludge a fix.

> Thanks
> Jim

  If I think of, I'll bring a couple home monday. I'm sure we have spares
since we have boards that use them.

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David Eather  
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 More options Nov 8, 9:36 am
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From: David Eather <eat...@tpg.com.au>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:36:39 +1000
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 9:36 am
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

Jim Flanagan wrote:
> I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
> anyone have an extra
> they want to sell or barter?  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.  Mine
> is being used in a sample
> and hold circuit that bit the dust.  I'm trying to not have to kludge a fix.

> Thanks
> Jim

It looks like (you better check if you use this idea) that an TL071
(jfet inputs) would slot in very well if you can live with the reduced
bandwidth (3MHz vs 20MHz) and slew rate (13V/uS vs 40V/us)

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Dave M  
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 More options Nov 8, 10:48 am
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From: "Dave M" <masondg4...@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:48:40 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 10:48 am
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

Jim Flanagan wrote:
> I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
> anyone have an extra
> they want to sell or barter?  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.  Mine
> is being used in a sample
> and hold circuit that bit the dust.  I'm trying to not have to kludge
> a fix.

> Thanks
> Jim

Unicorn Electronics has the LM310N in stock at
http://www.unicornelectronics.com/IC/LINEAR.html.  They have a $25.00
minimum, but they ship quickly.  Have ordered many times from Unicorn with
excellent service.
Consolidated also lists them as being in stock at
http://www.ceitron.com/semi/semi.phtml?part=LM310.  They have a $25.00
minimum as well.

--
David
masondg44 at comcast dot net


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Jamie  
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 More options Nov 8, 11:24 am
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From: Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:24:27 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 11:24 am
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

Nice to know about that site, I noticed they're not cheap!

  I also noticed they have some LM377N which I have a crap load
of from years ago :)
   I used them not for audio but for small servo to run little
DC motors in a bridge mode.
   Maybe I can offer to sell them! :)


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Phil Allison  
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 More options Nov 8, 11:12 am
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From: "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:12:35 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 11:12 am
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

"Jim Flanagan"

> I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
> anyone have an extra they want to sell or barter?

>  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.

**  Better take a look at a data sheet.

      The LM310 is not jfet.

 .....  Phil


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Jim Flanagan  
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 More options Nov 8, 3:27 pm
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From: Jim Flanagan <jf...@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:27:43 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

Yes... you are quite right.  Not  sure where I got 'JFET' input from?
Thanks


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Phil Allison  
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 More options Nov 8, 4:58 pm
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From: "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:58:08 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

"Jim Flanagan"

> Phil Allison wrote:

>>> I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
>>> anyone have an extra they want to sell or barter?

>>>  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.

>> **  Better take a look at a data sheet.

>>      The LM310 is not jfet.

> Yes... you are quite right.  Not  sure where I got 'JFET' input from?

** 1nA input bias current gives one that sort of impression.

 Seems to be using the same "super gain"  NPN transistors for the inputs as
the LM308 does.

 Amazing stuff for ICs released in the late 1960s.

.....   Phil


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Bill Sloman  
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 More options Nov 9, 5:51 am
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From: Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:51:53 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 9 2009 5:51 am
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement
On Nov 8, 6:58 am, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

Bob Widlar was amazing.

http://jove.eng.yale.edu/pipermail/eas-info/2003/000440.html

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen


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JW  
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 More options Nov 9, 9:51 pm
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From: JW <n...@dev.null>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:51:07 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 9 2009 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:22:42 -0500 Jim Flanagan <jf...@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote in Message id: <4af5e523$0$4967$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>:

>I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
>anyone have an extra
>they want to sell or barter?  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.  Mine
>is being used in a sample
>and hold circuit that bit the dust.  I'm trying to not have to kludge a fix.

NTE crossrefs to a NTE924
http://www.nteinc.com/

$15 at Mouser (ouch)


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Rich Grise  
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 More options Nov 10, 8:08 am
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From: Rich Grise <richgr...@example.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:08:36 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 8:08 am
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:36:39 +1000, David Eather wrote:
> Jim Flanagan wrote:
>> I need a replacement for this device in an 8pin dip package.  Does
>> anyone have an extra
>> they want to sell or barter?  These a unity gain, Jfet, buffers.  Mine
>> is being used in a sample
>> and hold circuit that bit the dust.  I'm trying to not have to kludge a
>> fix.

> It looks like (you better check if you use this idea) that an TL071 (jfet
> inputs) would slot in very well if you can live with the reduced bandwidth
> (3MHz vs 20MHz) and slew rate (13V/uS vs 40V/us)

The LM110/310 is a follower - i.e., unity gain, so if you used an opamp,
you'd have to add a clooge to strap it down to unity gain.

Doesn't have to be a _big_ clooge, if it's a one-off; just lash up a
feedback resistor somewhere near the chip, or maybe even just short
the output to the "-" input.

<anecdote>
One time, my engineer and I were musing about a circuit - he said,
"A zero gain inverter? What would you use a zero gain inverter for?"
I said, "virtual ground." He went, "Ah." and went away happy. :-)
</anecdote>

Hope This Helps!
Rich


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Jim Flanagan  
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 More options Nov 10, 1:18 pm
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From: Jim Flanagan <jf...@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:18:02 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: LM310/LM110 - need a replacement

Hi Rich..
Thanks, yes doing what you mentioned is certainly an easy option.  I may
end up doing that in the end.
Jim

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