Sams Club sell a really cheap (Royal) brand that is almost 3 times the quantity compared to Kodak or Epson. I suppose I will try it and see. I have had good results thus far with Epson papers.
Thanks again,
RV
"Arthur Small" <asma...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
I'd be interested in the results. I'm actually in the middle of collecting samples of different inkjet papers & testing them on my Epson 785EPX printer. So far I've tried HP (premium plus), Kodak (premium), Epson (premium) & Office Max brands. As expected, the print on the Epson paper looks excellent. The Office Max brand is a very close second. Both the Kodak & the HP papers looked horrible with excess mottling and flesh tones that were too pink.
Judging by my very limited one photo test, I wouldn't have any problem purchasing the Office Max Brand photo paper in the future.
Bob
P.S. If anyone has any recommendations on Generic Inks for Epson printers, I'd be interested to hear about them.
In article <GEaC9.26123$Ru1.1416...@news1.east.cox.net>, "Rogue Vorlon" <Rogue_Vorlon_NO_S...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Sams Club sell a really cheap (Royal) brand that is almost 3 times the > quantity compared to Kodak or Epson. I suppose I will try it and see. I have > had good results thus far with Epson papers.
> Thanks again,
> RV
> "Arthur Small" <asma...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > news:Jb8C9.140795$c51.41831918@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > There is no best. It depends on the printer. There are papers made for > > specific ink jet printers, some generic paper works well.
In article <bobkozubal-87FE97.20300018112...@netnews.attbi.com>, Robert Kozubal <bobkozu...@mac.com> wrote:
>I'd be interested in the results. I'm actually in the middle of >collecting samples of different inkjet papers & testing them on my Epson >785EPX printer. So far I've tried HP (premium plus), Kodak (premium), >Epson (premium) & Office Max brands. As expected, the print on the >Epson paper looks excellent. The Office Max brand is a very close >second. Both the Kodak & the HP papers looked horrible with excess >mottling and flesh tones that were too pink.
The Kodak papers can be made to give good results on Epson printers but you need to check Kodak's website www.kodak.com/go/inkjet for settings that'll get you close. Many of these are not what one might guess -- who'd think "plain paper" was what to use on my 2200. You still will have to tweak things to get the color balance you like.
I stick with the Epson papers because I like their look best on my 2200. But on my old original 6-color circa 1996 HP photosmart and my wife's Epson stylus 870 photo I ended up liking Kodak Premium Picture Paper best. YMMV
In article <bobkozubal-87FE97.20300018112...@netnews.attbi.com>, Robert
Kozubal <bobkozu...@mac.com> wrote: > I'd be interested in the results. I'm actually in the middle of > collecting samples of different inkjet papers & testing them on my Epson > 785EPX printer. So far I've tried HP (premium plus), Kodak (premium), > Epson (premium) & Office Max brands. As expected, the print on the > Epson paper looks excellent. The Office Max brand is a very close > second. Both the Kodak & the HP papers looked horrible with excess > mottling and flesh tones that were too pink.
> Judging by my very limited one photo test, I wouldn't have any problem > purchasing the Office Max Brand photo paper in the future.
Given the vagaries of various inkjet papers (and continuing controversy over even short-term longevity of some papers, let alone long-term stability), it's best to stick to names you know. For color work with Epson's own inks, my favorite Epson paper by far is their Premium Semi-Gloss; for black-and-white, it's Epson Archival Matte. And there are many, many more good papers out there, but I'd steer *very* clear of "house brand" papers such as Office Max and the like.
> P.S. If anyone has any recommendations on Generic Inks for Epson > printers, I'd be interested to hear about them.
See above. Same deal as with paper.
-- BWB _______________________ Impatience is virtual
Oops! I just realized that I confused the name of the "generic" paper that I mentioned in my post (see below). I tested Office Depot brand, not Office Max. Sorry about that.
Bob
In article <bobkozubal-87FE97.20300018112...@netnews.attbi.com>, Robert Kozubal <bobkozu...@mac.com> wrote:
> I'd be interested in the results. I'm actually in the middle of > collecting samples of different inkjet papers & testing them on my Epson > 785EPX printer. So far I've tried HP (premium plus), Kodak (premium), > Epson (premium) & Office Max brands. As expected, the print on the > Epson paper looks excellent. The Office Max brand is a very close > second. Both the Kodak & the HP papers looked horrible with excess > mottling and flesh tones that were too pink.
> Judging by my very limited one photo test, I wouldn't have any problem > purchasing the Office Max Brand photo paper in the future.
> Bob
> P.S. If anyone has any recommendations on Generic Inks for Epson > printers, I'd be interested to hear about them.
> In article <GEaC9.26123$Ru1.1416...@news1.east.cox.net>, > "Rogue Vorlon" <Rogue_Vorlon_NO_S...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > Thanks for responding!
> > Sams Club sell a really cheap (Royal) brand that is almost 3 times the > > quantity compared to Kodak or Epson. I suppose I will try it and see. I have > > had good results thus far with Epson papers.
> > Thanks again,
> > RV
> > "Arthur Small" <asma...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Jb8C9.140795$c51.41831918@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > There is no best. It depends on the printer. There are papers made for > > > specific ink jet printers, some generic paper works well.
Not only are the colors "mottled" looking, but the prints do not resolve as much detail as the Epson glossy paper...the ink apparently "runs" somewhat on the Kodak paper, smearing the details and ruining resolution...avoid this paper with Epson inks....
"Robert Kozubal" <bobkozu...@mac.com> wrote in message
> I'd be interested in the results. I'm actually in the middle of > collecting samples of different inkjet papers & testing them on my Epson > 785EPX printer. So far I've tried HP (premium plus), Kodak (premium), > Epson (premium) & Office Max brands. As expected, the print on the > Epson paper looks excellent. The Office Max brand is a very close > second. Both the Kodak & the HP papers looked horrible with excess > mottling and flesh tones that were too pink.
> Judging by my very limited one photo test, I wouldn't have any problem > purchasing the Office Max Brand photo paper in the future.
> Bob
> P.S. If anyone has any recommendations on Generic Inks for Epson > printers, I'd be interested to hear about them.
> In article <GEaC9.26123$Ru1.1416...@news1.east.cox.net>, > "Rogue Vorlon" <Rogue_Vorlon_NO_S...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > Thanks for responding!
> > Sams Club sell a really cheap (Royal) brand that is almost 3 times the > > quantity compared to Kodak or Epson. I suppose I will try it and see. I have > > had good results thus far with Epson papers.
> > Thanks again,
> > RV
> > "Arthur Small" <asma...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Jb8C9.140795$c51.41831918@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > There is no best. It depends on the printer. There are papers made for > > > specific ink jet printers, some generic paper works well.
Saw your post and thought I would note that the use of Kodak OneTouch significantly improves image quality with Kodak Premium or Ultra papers. You can review this features by going to http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet The program is the result of Kodaks concern about your results and their efforts of examining just about all the current printers that are available. Experimentation is done on the printers to get them to yield excellent results.
When you download and install the EasyShare software from Kodak the One Touch feature is included. It auto adjusts your printer driver for optimum results. If you do not use it, the settings remain as you had them. Works very well.
Talk to you soon.
Ron Baird Kodak
"Rogue Vorlon" <Rogue_Vorlon_NO_S...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
I am new to digital image printing, so I am curious about Ink/Paper matches. My printer is a HP 7150 using HP's 6 color cartridges. In my paper draw, I have two papers: Kodak Premium Inkjet paper and Epson's Preium paper I purchased at Costco (I lost the identification of the paper and it is in a plain plastic wrapper).
When I use the Kodak paper and let light glance off of the surface, the ink is raised in places whereas the Epson does not do this. Is this significant?
Is there any research on how long the HP 57/58 inks will last on the above papers?
>Saw your post and thought I would note that the use of Kodak OneTouch >significantly improves image quality with Kodak Premium or Ultra papers. >You can review this features by going to http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet >The program is the result of Kodaks concern about your results and their >efforts of examining just about all the current printers that are available. >Experimentation is done on the printers to get them to yield excellent >results.
>When you download and install the EasyShare software from Kodak the One >Touch feature is included. It auto adjusts your printer driver for optimum >results. If you do not use it, the settings remain as you had them. Works >very well.
I like the Ilford and LumiJet papers on my Epson 780. (Epson papers too.) Getting the right ColorSync setting on my Mac was important though. Otherwise, Ilford papers turn pretty magenta/red. I use ColorMatch RGB that seems to work well.
I just downloaded the Kodak program and the prints are the best I have had using Kodak paper. Is it possible to put the correct values into my HP driver to duplicate the results - in other words, print directly from PhotoShop?
Rick Warner wrote: >With any of the papers did you set the printer driver to custom settings >and use the paper manufacturer's suggestions for that paper/printer >combo? I find that with the settings for the Kodak paper from their >website that the results are spectacular.
With the Epson papers, I chose the "Premium Glossy Photo Paper" setting for the paper & the Epson Natural Color setting for the ink. For the Kodak paper, I followed the suggestions for my printer on the Kodak website. I couldn't find any info for the Office Depot & HP papers, so I used the same settings that I used for the Epson paper.
What type of printer are you using?
Bob
In article <1103_1037822...@news.earthlink.net>, Rick Warner <rickwar...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> With any of the papers did you set the printer driver to custom settings > and use the paper manufacturer's suggestions for that paper/printer > combo? I find that with the settings for the Kodak paper from their > website that the results are spectacular.
And as usual their "tests" don't include the very popular OD photo paper. Everyone knows that Staples brand photo paper sucks. Also, their "predictions" are even more optimistic than the printer manufacturer's. I just don't give any credibility to these "expert" opinions and did my own testing for my conditions.
Robert Kozubal <bobkozu...@mac.com> wrote in message <news:bobkozubal-80132C.18211121112002@netnews.attbi.com>... > With the Epson papers, I chose the "Premium Glossy Photo Paper" setting > for the paper & the Epson Natural Color setting for the ink. For the > Kodak paper, I followed the suggestions for my printer on the Kodak > website. I couldn't find any info for the Office Depot & HP papers, so I > used the same settings that I used for the Epson paper.
> What type of printer are you using?
> Bob
> In article <1103_1037822...@news.earthlink.net>, > Rick Warner <rickwar...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> > With any of the papers did you set the printer driver to custom settings > > and use the paper manufacturer's suggestions for that paper/printer > > combo? I find that with the settings for the Kodak paper from their > > website that the results are spectacular.
> > - rick -
> >I have 2 Epson printers and I use Jet Photo Glossy paper I get at Wal Mart,
runs about 25c a sheet - great results. I also use great price 3rd party ink cartridges from:
Sorry to crosspost but in case it wasn't mentioned:
Pictorico Pro High Gloss White Film is pretty much considered the highest quality Inkjet paper on the market (but shut my mouth if you know better). It isn't cheap, but you get what you pay for.
I've used it for gallery installations several times and when I came to pull the prints down they looked as good as day one (and were in the sun too with non-uv glass; but I digress, thats more about the ink).
Adorama probably has it for the cheapest but check www.mallagent.com for verification.
It works with both my Epson 3000 and my HP 1220c so I'm sure it'll work fine on most inkjet printers.
Cheers, -sd
p.s. Also that very thick Kodak Photo Paper is quite good too and a lot less. Can be had at Office Depot, Staples, etc.
On 6 Dec 2002 10:54:13 -0800, jimven...@yahoo.com (Jim V) wrote:
>Robert Kozubal <bobkozu...@mac.com> wrote in message <news:bobkozubal-80132C.18211121112002@netnews.attbi.com>... >> With the Epson papers, I chose the "Premium Glossy Photo Paper" setting >> for the paper & the Epson Natural Color setting for the ink. For the >> Kodak paper, I followed the suggestions for my printer on the Kodak >> website. I couldn't find any info for the Office Depot & HP papers, so I >> used the same settings that I used for the Epson paper.
>> What type of printer are you using?
>> Bob
>> In article <1103_1037822...@news.earthlink.net>, >> Rick Warner <rickwar...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > With any of the papers did you set the printer driver to custom settings >> > and use the paper manufacturer's suggestions for that paper/printer >> > combo? I find that with the settings for the Kodak paper from their >> > website that the results are spectacular.
>> > - rick -
>> >I have 2 Epson printers and I use Jet Photo Glossy paper I get at Wal Mart, >runs about 25c a sheet - great results. I also use great price 3rd >party ink cartridges from:
To all the people that replied to this question who use an Epson printer. Are you printing the output of a digital camera or from a scanner? In my somewhat limited experience, there is a considerable difference. I have had no problem printing digital photos on an Epson 785 using either Epson or Office Depot paper. (rotten results with Staples). But I have had to go through hoops to get good results from scanned prints or negatives. It took a lot reading on colour management and a whole cartridge of ink to reliably rid my prints of a magenta cast on one type of paper. If any knows any short cuts please tell me, as I believe that I will have to partially repeat the process to move from the Epson 4x6 photo paper to 8/5 x11 premium glossy. Jean Walker
"Clyde Davidson" <lugh-cl...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> I like the Ilford and LumiJet papers on my Epson 780. (Epson papers > too.) Getting the right ColorSync setting on my Mac was important > though. Otherwise, Ilford papers turn pretty magenta/red. I use > ColorMatch RGB that seems to work well.
> To all the people that replied to this question who use an Epson printer. > Are you printing the output of a digital camera or from a scanner? > In my somewhat limited experience, there is a considerable difference. I > have had no problem printing digital photos on an Epson 785 using either > Epson or Office Depot paper. (rotten results with Staples). But I have had > to go through hoops to get good results from scanned prints or negatives. It > took a lot reading on colour management and a whole cartridge of ink to > reliably rid my prints of a magenta cast on one type of paper. If any knows > any short cuts please tell me, as I believe that I will have to partially > repeat the process to move from the Epson 4x6 photo paper to 8/5 x11 premium > glossy.
Convert your digital images (in Photoshop) to CMYK instead of RGB before printing. That cleans up a lot of gamut problems.
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