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Vindrew  
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 More options Dec 19 2003, 7:38 am
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From: "Vindrew" <some...@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:38:49 -0500
Local: Fri, Dec 19 2003 7:38 am
Subject: Latest Gallery Addition
Latest picture added to my gallery for your kind review.
http://www.pbase.com/image/24248372.jpg

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Please visit my photography gallery:

http://www.pbase.com/vincentvalle

Vincent Valle
Proud Supporter of pbase.com

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~


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Mark Herring  
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 More options Dec 19 2003, 9:54 am
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From: Mark Herring <Noma...@surfcity.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:57:08 -0800
Local: Fri, Dec 19 2003 9:57 am
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:38:49 -0500, "Vindrew" <some...@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Latest picture added to my gallery for your kind review.
>http://www.pbase.com/image/24248372.jpg

>~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

>Please visit my photography gallery:

>http://www.pbase.com/vincentvalle

>Vincent Valle
>Proud Supporter of pbase.com

>~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Nice picture.  To me, still lifes like this are a  bit of a
cliche---nonetheless, it is very well done
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

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Joe  
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 More options Dec 19 2003, 9:58 am
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From: Joe <nos...@joekaz.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:58:36 -0500
Local: Fri, Dec 19 2003 9:58 am
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
On 12/18/2003 03:38 PM, Vindrew said:

> Latest picture added to my gallery for your kind review.
> http://www.pbase.com/image/24248372.jpg

Nice, but the red background seems too much.
The oranges in shadow are almost lost against that
background - something to give more contrast may have helped?

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Lionel  
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 More options Dec 19 2003, 1:12 pm
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From: Lionel <n...@alt.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:07:25 +1100
Local: Fri, Dec 19 2003 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
Kibo informs me that Mark Herring <Noma...@surfcity.net> stated that:

>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:38:49 -0500, "Vindrew" <some...@microsoft.com>
>wrote:

>>Latest picture added to my gallery for your kind review.
>>http://www.pbase.com/image/24248372.jpg

Dunno about 'kind', but I'll give it a shot. Technically, the shot looks
fine to me, but IMO, it has lots of artistic problems:
(1) IMO, the red background clashes horribly with most of the fruit.
(2) The sideboard or table is very distracting. Try putting it on
something bigger, & perhaps use a nice tablecloth.
(3) The lack of variety in the fruit makes for a fairly boring set of
colours. How about adding some bananas & purple grapes, to give it some
some colour?
(4) The tray badly needs polishing. Bright silver & the resulting
reflections would probably add interest to the picture as well.

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Michael Scarpitti  
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 More options Dec 19 2003, 3:43 pm
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From: mikescarpi...@yahoo.com (Michael Scarpitti)
Date: 18 Dec 2003 20:42:59 -0800
Local: Fri, Dec 19 2003 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition

"Vindrew" <some...@microsoft.com> wrote in message <news:NfednVQ61rXFjX-iRVn-tA@comcast.com>...
> Latest picture added to my gallery for your kind review.
> http://www.pbase.com/image/24248372.jpg

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

> Please visit my photography gallery:

> http://www.pbase.com/vincentvalle

> Vincent Valle
> Proud Supporter of pbase.com

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Afraid to confront people with your camera? Why so many of people's
backsides? Be brave!

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This Guy Here  
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 More options Dec 20 2003, 4:47 am
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From: This Guy Here <lookn...@ixnetcom.com (put a "." between the "x" & the "n")>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:47:26 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 20 2003 4:47 am
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
With apologies, I don't like this picture much, for the following
reasons:

o  The lighting is a bit bland.  I think single light source images
    have to be stronger in order to be effective.  I would have
    preferred an additional light source or reflector to provide
    some fill in the shadow areas to the left side of the image.

o  The exposure isn't optimal -- the highlights on the fruit are
    a bit washed out, and there is no detail in the shadow
    areas.  

o  I'm not sure that the placement of the light source is
    optimal either.

o  Unlike other viewers, I don't mind the red background,
    but it is flat & uninteresting.  I would have preferred some
    more things going on, like some draped fabric or the
    corner of a picture or something.

o  The composition is totally random and is not very interesting
    to me.  I think a more careful arrangement of objects would
    have been called for.  There's no "story" here, meaning that
    I get no sense of space or lifestyle or ambience.

o  Your choice of lenses is a bit questionable:  the top tier of
    the servicing piece is photographed edge on, but the
    bottom tier is a bit from above and appears more oval than
    the top tier.  I would think that if you are going to photograph
    that serving dish edge on, I would have used a telephoto
    lens from a greater distance.

Still life studies look simple & easy but in reality are very
difficult.  It's difficult to arrange your objects in a meaningful
manner.  There is no excuse for not having precise lighting &
composition.  

I most definitely applaud your interest & willingness to try, and I
encourage you to continue your explorations.  Most especially, I
congratulate you on your willingness to obtain feedback from strangers
like me (who may or may not be qualified).  Please continue.  My
suggestions:

   o  Take your time in arranging your composition.
   o  Carefully craft your lighting.  Light & shadows are
       important in suggesting a third dimension to your
       objects, but every shadow should be complimented
       with a highlight or an edge.

Carry on.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:38:49 -0500, "Vindrew" <some...@microsoft.com>
wrote:


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R  
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 More options Dec 20 2003, 7:07 am
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From: "R" <em...@oursite.ok>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:07:32 -0000
Local: Sat, Dec 20 2003 7:07 am
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
I feel that the image has been over-sharpened (as can be seen around the
very top of the tray) and I'm finding it very difficult to see where it's
actually in focus?
Just my viewpoint, but you did ask for comments!
Richard

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casey  
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 More options Dec 22 2003, 9:46 am
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From: "casey" <cleszocin...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:42:17 -0500
Local: Mon, Dec 22 2003 9:42 am
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
I wish I could get critiques like this on my nature pictures.
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Vindrew  
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 More options Dec 23 2003, 11:43 am
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From: "Vindrew" <some...@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:43:44 -0500
Local: Tues, Dec 23 2003 11:43 am
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
Thanks all for your feedback.  I need these constructive, if not blunt,
commentary.  I appreciate your time!

Vincent

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From: "Vindrew" <some...@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:46:24 -0500
Local: Tues, Dec 23 2003 11:46 am
Subject: Re: Latest Gallery Addition
Casey-
Have you tried posting a picture?  I took a chance and as a beginner, I
welcome this wonderful feedback.  It is like taking my own private course.
Thanks again everyone!  I will be taking this guidance and coming back with
more if you can bare it!  ;o)

Vincent Valle

http://www.pbase.com/vincentvalle

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From: "Vindrew" <some