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Michael Carley  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 8:29 am
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From: mjcar...@maths.tcd.ie (Michael Carley)
Date: 19 Jul 1994 22:20:00 +0100
Subject: Re: Black & White film
ja...@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey A Lew) writes:

>I have a question about B&W film.  I'm pretty new to this photography stuff,
>but I am planning to take some headshots for my friend.  We plan to do this
>indoors with some halogen lights.  What type of B&W film is best for indoor
>use WITHOUT the use of a flash?

Try ISO 100 and a tripod. I favour Ilford but that's just my opinion.

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Jeffrey A Lew  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 9:00 am
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From: ja...@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey A Lew)
Date: 19 Jul 1994 19:42:52 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 5:42 am
Subject: Black & White film
I have a question about B&W film.  I'm pretty new to this photography stuff,
but I am planning to take some headshots for my friend.  We plan to do this
indoors with some halogen lights.  What type of B&W film is best for indoor
use WITHOUT the use of a flash?

Jeff
ja...@columbia.edu


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Wade Albright  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 9:45 am
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From: snak...@bu.edu (Wade Albright)
Date: 19 Jul 1994 21:53:03 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 7:53 am
Subject: Re: Black & White film
Jeffrey A Lew (ja...@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: I have a question about B&W film.  I'm pretty new to this photography stuff,
: but I am planning to take some headshots for my friend.  We plan to do this
: indoors with some halogen lights.  What type of B&W film is best for indoor
: use WITHOUT the use of a flash?

: Jeff
: ja...@columbia.edu

        IMHO, Kodak TMAX 100 has exceptionally fine grain.
        If you find it doesn't give you enough speed, try shooting TMAX 400
        at 200 first, then at 400.  This should also give you good results.

        If you find that the negatives are too contrasty, try Tri-X shot at
        100.  This will flatten out the film considerably.

        -Wade

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Marc Clarke  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 12:17 pm
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From: m...@fc.hp.com (Marc Clarke)
Date: 20 Jul 1994 01:10:59 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 11:10 am
Subject: Re: Black & White film
There is an issue with color balance.  TMAX-100 (and maybe TMAX-400) have the
same ISO under indoor lighting as under outdoor.  Other B&W emulsions do not.

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Oleg Volokhonsky  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 2:08 pm
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From: ol...@dimension.mcad.edu (Oleg Volokhonsky)
Date: 20 Jul 1994 03:28:16 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: Black & White film
8^)-->
8^)-->       If you find that the negatives are too contrasty, try Tri-X shot at
8^)-->       100.  This will flatten out the film considerably.
8^)-->

And develop accordingly, i'd guess(i.e. underdevelop)

I like low contrast and diffused lights close to the subjects -- thus ISO  
400(xp1/2) is needed to keep subjects from frying in hot lights at f8, 1/60.

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Khiem Do  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 4:04 pm
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From: gobe...@loki.stanford.edu (Khiem Do)
Date: 20 Jul 1994 05:55:21 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Black & White film
In article <30hg20$...@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>, mjcar...@maths.tcd.ie (Michael

Carley) wrote:

> Try ISO 100 and a tripod. I favour Ilford but that's just my opinion.

There's one thing you might consider when shooting portraits with
"hot" (i.e., not flash) lighting:  will the film be fast enough for
the amount of lighting to (1) freeze your subject, and (2) achieve
sufficient depth of field.

Unless you plan on using halogens so bright as to give your subjects
heat stroke, you may find it difficult when using 100 speed film to
get all important facial features (eyes, nose, ears, neck) in
adequate focus, especially when using a standard portrait lens
( >85mm ).  Remember that no one sits perfectly still, so an
adequately high shutter speed is more important that you may think.
You may also want to experiment with different B&W filters, which
will also diminish the incoming light.

I've shot Tri-X successfully.  I haven't tried T-Max 400 for portraits,
but in general I've had more trouble getting good results (sensitive
developing) with this than with Tri-X.  I wouldn't worry about additional
grain; Tri-X resulted in perfectly adequate 8x10's.

I second the vote on the tripod.

Khiem Do
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Floeckner Hannes  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 6:58 pm
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From: floe...@wst.edvz.sbg.ac.at (Floeckner Hannes)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 09:58:21 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: Black & White film

In article <30hg20$...@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>, mjcar...@maths.tcd.ie (Michael Carley) writes:

|>ja...@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey A Lew) writes:
|>
|>>I have a question about B&W film.  I'm pretty new to this photography stuff,
|>>but I am planning to take some headshots for my friend.  We plan to do this
|>>indoors with some halogen lights.  What type of B&W film is best for indoor
|>>use WITHOUT the use of a flash?
|>
|>Try ISO 100 and a tripod. I favour Ilford but that's just my opinion.

ILFORD Delta 400 (ISO 400) would be a good film I think. More sensible, but
the same resolution like the ILFORD ISO 100 or 125 films.


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Feen Ben J  
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 More options Jul 20 1994, 8:24 pm
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From: b-f...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Feen Ben J)
Date: 20 Jul 1994 10:24:52 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Black & White film
I've noticed photogs in the local market here doing headshots with XP2.  
Any arguments?
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Scott Newman  
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 More options Jul 21 1994, 1:36 am
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From: new...@broke.enet.dec.com (Scott Newman)
Date: 20 JUL 94 10:30:11
Local: Wed, Jul 20 1994 10:30 am
Subject: Re: Black & White film

I am wondering about Fuji Neopan 400 and Agfapan APX 100.  I haven't shot
either, yet, but I have purchased some.  Someone told me that Neopan 400
was "like a fine-grained Tri-X".  This person was a big Tri-X fan.  Since
I don't develop my own film, I am limited to either D-76 1:1 or T-Max 1:4
in the two labs that I use.  I shoot mostly people (candids) for a music
school in (very) mixed lighting situations.  Can anyone add some insight?

I love XP2, but I find the emulsion seems to scratch more easily.  I've
also heard that XP2 negatives are less archival than traditional black
and white films.

Scott


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Robert E Klimkiewicz  
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 More options Jul 21 1994, 7:07 am
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From: rklim...@mason1.gmu.edu (Robert E Klimkiewicz)
Date: 20 Jul 1994 19:37:04 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 21 1994 5:37 am
Subject: Re: Black & White film
Jeffrey A Lew (ja...@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: I have a question about B&W film.  I'm pretty new to this photography stuff,
: but I am planning to take some headshots for my friend.  We plan to do this
: indoors with some halogen lights.  What type of B&W film is best for indoor
: use WITHOUT the use of a flash?

TMAX 400.

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Michael Graham  
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 More options Jul 21 1994, 7:32 am
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From: gra...@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 19:48:41 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 21 1994 5:48 am
Subject: Re: Black & White film
In article <30iu1k$...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> b-f...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Feen Ben J) writes:

>I've noticed photogs in the local market here doing headshots with XP2.  
>Any arguments?
>Benjamin Feen

Time.

XP2 can be developed at any photo lab normally (along with all the color
stuff). Although there is a slight pink hue to the prints, it doesn't usually
matter because the headshots are most likely only needed for a decent PMT.
(The halftones needed for newspapers...etc)

Some ads have 50 identically shot headshots...it's a heck of a lot faster
and cheaper to drop the XP2 off at a lab than to go into the darkroom
yourself.

I am assuming that these headshots are to be used in real estate ads or
something where there are pictures of the 50 helpful agents at agency XYZ.

I probably made this more confusing...
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Brent Doncliff  
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 More options Jul 22 1994, 12:59 pm
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From: bre...@iconz.co.nz (Brent Doncliff)
Date: 22 Jul 1994 01:21:39 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 22 1994 11:21 am
Subject: Re: Black & White film
Jeffrey A Lew (ja...@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: I have a question about B&W film.  I'm pretty new to this photography stuff,
: but I am planning to take some headshots for my friend.  We plan to do this
: indoors with some halogen lights.  What type of B&W film is best for indoor
: use WITHOUT the use of a flash?

: Jeff
: ja...@columbia.edu

I guess it depend on what effects you are wanting in the finished product
- are you wanting a crystal-clear reproduction, or grainy and with some
character? How much natural room light is there, and where will the
subject be in relation to the light source? If you are adventurous, and
don't mind experimenting - use two cameras 1 with 1000 asa film AGFA if
you can get it, and say 400 asa plus X pan - play around and see what you
get.

- Brent.


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