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sasquatch  
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 More options Jan 19 2004, 8:13 am
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From: "sasquatch" <sasqua...@thewoods.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:13:24 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 19 2004 8:13 am
Subject: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
I was thinking of purchasing the Sony DSC-F717 for $699.00, but I came
across this preorder special for the DSC-F828 at Get a LifeStyle, preorder
price is $999.00:
http://www.getalifestyle.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar...

The DSC-F717 is a great camera, but from what I read about the DSC-F828,
with 8.0 MP and microdrive storage and RAW image format, how can you go
wrong?


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Bob Salomon  
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 More options Jan 19 2004, 8:19 am
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From: Bob Salomon <bob_salo...@mindspring.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:19:22 -0500
Local: Mon, Jan 19 2004 8:19 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
In article <UFCOb.4025$_u4.1...@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>,

 "sasquatch" <sasqua...@thewoods.com> wrote:
> I was thinking of purchasing the Sony DSC-F717 for $699.00, but I came
> across this preorder special for the DSC-F828 at Get a LifeStyle, preorder
> price is $999.00:
> http://www.getalifestyle.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar...
> =260

> The DSC-F717 is a great camera, but from what I read about the DSC-F828,
> with 8.0 MP and microdrive storage and RAW image format, how can you go
> wrong?

I had the 717 and now have the 828. So far - Great Camera.

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 More options Jan 19 2004, 9:11 am
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From: "John Hughes" <hu...@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:11:48 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 19 2004 9:11 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
Check here:  http://www.dpreview.com/

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 More options Jan 19 2004, 10:16 pm
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From: "Stewy" <anyone4tenn...@lycos.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:18:59 +0900
Local: Mon, Jan 19 2004 10:18 pm
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999

"sasquatch" <sasqua...@thewoods.com> wrote in message

news:UFCOb.4025$_u4.1498@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> I was thinking of purchasing the Sony DSC-F717 for $699.00, but I came
> across this preorder special for the DSC-F828 at Get a LifeStyle, preorder
> price is $999.00:

http://www.getalifestyle.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar...
id=260

> The DSC-F717 is a great camera, but from what I read about the DSC-F828,
> with 8.0 MP and microdrive storage and RAW image format, how can you go
> wrong?

Careful - You'll need to spend at least $100 more the moment you buy it.
You'll need another InfoLithium battery. Bigger memory sticks than the
paltry 16mb thing that comes with the camera and if you want to charge the
batteries outside the camera, add around $60 for that.

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Bob Salomon  
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 More options Jan 19 2004, 11:21 pm
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From: Bob Salomon <bob_salo...@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:21:45 -0500
Local: Mon, Jan 19 2004 11:21 pm
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
In article <buge9k$55...@newssv.kcn.ne.jp>,

 "Stewy" <anyone4tenn...@lycos.com> wrote:
> You'll need another InfoLithium battery. Bigger memory sticks than the
> paltry 16mb thing that comes with the camera and if you want to charge the
> batteries outside the camera, add around $60 for that.

The 828 comes with no memory stick or CF card. I have 2 batteries but
find that the batteries are so efficient I have rarely had to change
batteries while shooting on the 717 or the 828.
Yes they do sell accessory chargers for outside the battery charging.

So 1 out of 3 isn't too bad. Help you make the Hall of Fame if you
constantly average .333 in baseball.

Pretty sloppy though as an average for advice.

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Povl H. Pedersen  
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 More options Jan 20 2004, 12:13 am
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From: "Povl H. Pedersen" <nos...@home.terminal.dk>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:13:41 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Jan 20 2004 12:13 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
On 2004-01-18, sasquatch <sasqua...@thewoods.com> wrote:

> I was thinking of purchasing the Sony DSC-F717 for $699.00, but I came
> across this preorder special for the DSC-F828 at Get a LifeStyle, preorder
> price is $999.00:
> http://www.getalifestyle.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar...

> The DSC-F717 is a great camera, but from what I read about the DSC-F828,
> with 8.0 MP and microdrive storage and RAW image format, how can you go
> wrong?

The F828 is almost blind. At 200 ISO it is about as sensitive as the
Canon EOS 300D at 125 ISO. But allready at 64 ISO the F828 has more
noise in the pictures than the the EOS 300D has at 4-800 ISO.

So it is almost 1 stop slower than other cameras, and 3-4 stops
more noisy.


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Albert Nurick  
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 More options Jan 20 2004, 5:13 am
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From: Albert Nurick <alb...@nurick.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:13:53 GMT
Local: Tues, Jan 20 2004 5:13 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
Bob Salomon <bob_salo...@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:bob_salomon-95C82A.16192218012004@news-east.ash.giganews.com:

> I had the 717 and now have the 828. So far - Great Camera.

Bob, how's the shutter lag?  That's the one thing I detest about my 707.

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 More options Jan 20 2004, 6:39 am
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From: ScorpionK...@attNOSPAM.net
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:39:57 GMT
Local: Tues, Jan 20 2004 6:39 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:13:24 GMT, "sasquatch" <sasqua...@thewoods.com>
wrote:

>I was thinking of purchasing the Sony DSC-F717 for $699.00, but I
came
>across this preorder special for the DSC-F828 at Get a LifeStyle,
preorder
>price is $999.00:
>http://www.getalifestyle.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar...

>The DSC-F717 is a great camera, but from what I read about the
DSC-F828,
>with 8.0 MP and microdrive storage and RAW image format, how can you
go
>wrong?

As a huge SOny fan and owner of the S85, F707 and V1, I couldn't wait
for the F828 to come out.  When I started seeing the results from test
F828's it gave me pause.  Now the camera is in full release and I
still won't buy one.  These pictures I'm seeing from F828 are not that
great.  So why would I spend ANOTHER 1000 for a camera that doesn't
shoot much better then the last few models?  If you have you heart set
on Sony pick up a F707 or F717 and save some money while capturing
better pictures.

Reading the Sony talk forum one must wonder if some of the posters are
delusional.  I've learned a lot over there and from Phil Askey, but I
now question their judgement since the F828 came out.  Read Phil's
summery on the F828 review.  It's like he's giving out a recommend as
a gift based on emotion.

I would love to own a F828 IF Sony can FIX it.
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 More options Jan 20 2004, 6:43 am
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From: Bob Salomon <bob_salo...@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:43:23 -0500
Local: Tues, Jan 20 2004 6:43 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
In article <Xns94757C6C6FB60pc...@24.93.43.121>,
 Albert Nurick <alb...@nurick.com> wrote:

> Bob Salomon <bob_salo...@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:bob_salomon-95C82A.16192218012004@news-east.ash.giganews.com:

> > I had the 717 and now have the 828. So far - Great Camera.

> Bob, how's the shutter lag?  That's the one thing I detest about my 707.

It seems much faster then my 717 or any of the Coolpix models I had from
the 950 to the 5700.

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 More options Jan 20 2004, 6:46 am
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From: Bob Salomon <bob_salo...@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:46:04 -0500
Local: Tues, Jan 20 2004 6:46 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
In article <09co00p3m42p4cu9348creup8f3of98...@4ax.com>,

 ScorpionK...@attNOSPAM.net wrote:
> I would love to own a F828 IF Sony can FIX it.

I do own one after having the 717 and have no complaints. And, yes, I
have read the reviews. However I have been in the photography business
since the mid 1950s and have learned to test it myself, under the
conditions I will use it and form my own judgement. So far I am very
pleased.

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 More options Jan 20 2004, 7:58 am
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From: Larry <sl...@slide.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:53:16 GMT
Local: Tues, Jan 20 2004 7:53 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
In article <09co00p3m42p4cu9348creup8f3of98...@4ax.com>,
ScorpionK...@attNOSPAM.net says...

> Reading the Sony talk forum one must wonder if some of the posters are
> delusional.  I've learned a lot over there and from Phil Askey, but I
> now question their judgement since the F828 came out.  Read Phil's
> summery on the F828 review.  It's like he's giving out a recommend as
> a gift based on emotion.

> I would love to own a F828 IF Sony can FIX it.

I have the 717 and the 5mp Mavicam, and LOVE them both.  Still, I
wouldn't consider the 828 as a "Replacement" for the 717.

I've been able to do some very profitable work with the 717 and even the
Mavicam, and I MIGHT get an 828 later on AFTER I get a dslr (probably a
Canon, unless Sony comes out with one).

I'de like a chance to play with the color from an 828, but I dont feel a
need for a camera that is basicaly noiser than what Im using.

Larry


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 More options Jan 20 2004, 8:16 am
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From: Larry <sl...@slide.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:10:47 GMT
Local: Tues, Jan 20 2004 8:10 am
Subject: Re: Sony's DSC-F828 Cyber-shot Camera 8 megapixels for $999
In article <bob_salomon-097205.14460419012004@news-
east.ash.giganews.com>, bob_salo...@mindspring.com says...

> I do own one after having the 717 and have no complaints. And, yes, I
> have read the reviews. However I have been in the photography business
> since the mid 1950s and have learned to test it myself, under the
> conditions I will use it and form my own judgement. So far I am very
> pleased.

> --
> To reply no_ HPMarketing Corp.

My only reason for not jumping up to get one right away is simple, I
have a relative who sent me several cdrs of raw images, and some un-
edited jpgs, and I just didn't see a thosand dollars worth of "better"
in them. It takes fine pictures, certainly, but not enough to justify
$999, when I already have the 717 to shoot with.

I got my 717 for a hell of a bargain price (mid $500 range) onsale at
SEARS, of all places!

When they start to carry the 828, and they are having a SALE, then I'll
swoop down on one.

Larry


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