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Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

sec...@illumnati.net (Neil Harrington) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:24:22 UT

They put it together, though. I doubt there's anything wrong with the
*design* of the car or anything in it, but some American cars have been very
poorly assembled.
There have been some very good Fords and Mercurys and also some very
sloppily assembled ones. I've owned a few of both. Never bought a Lincoln.

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

b...@nospam.com — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:05:59 UT

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:47:29 -0600, Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com>
wrote:
You don't like the mexican product so you pick German? Mercedes? And you blame
the Union?? They didn't design it!
See you in the garage!! Have fun buying inflated price parts!
BTW I'll never buy a Ford, if they were the last car company on the planet, I'd

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

sec...@illumnati.net (Neil Harrington) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:02:03 UT

Depends on the dealership and its service dept. One of the reasons I buy
Chevrolets now is that the local Chevy dealer is great. Service is good,
prompt, reliable and very reasonably priced. Oil and filter change, topping
off all fluids, checking everything etc. is about $25, and they always throw

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

savagedu...@{removespam}me.com (Savageduck) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:54:07 UT

I must have been lucky over the last 45 odd years;
1963 FIAT 2300, amazingly straight six, no problems.
1968 VW Beetle 1500, replaced throttle cable.
1971 Subaru, no issues
1969 Chevy Impala, Aaaaaaaaagh!
1970 Datsun 260, bullet proof.
1975 BMW 520, no mechanical issue but rust prone door bottoms and

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:21:11 UT

You bought the wrong filter and you think that it's somebody else's
fault?
Umm, according to Consumer Reports, the reliability of Mercedes is
crap. You'd do better with a Ford.

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

rander3...@gmail.com (RichA) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:39:57 UT

Status-conscious yuppies make me sick. They buy expensive Eurotrash
vehicles all the while being completely oblivious to the FACT their
overall quality SUCKS. They get what they ask for.

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

jclarke.use...@cox.net (J. Clarke) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:20:11 UT

Germans used to build good stuff. They're too in love with technology for
the sake of technology today--they need to get back to making good stuff.

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

savagedu...@{removespam}me.com (Savageduck) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:59:50 UT

Welcome to the club Rita.
In recent years I have owned 3 Fords, a Probe GT(traded), a Contour LX
(wrecked)& an Escape XLS(still driven by my step-daughter from Hell,
with 235K on the clock), dealer sevices on the Probe & Contour were
always more expensive than the services on any of my 3 Mercedes, a

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

larry_th...@shitstring.com (Larry Thong) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:44:39 UT

You got it! I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. The one and only
time I was too lazy to get my dead ass under the car was during a cold
winter's day many years back and took it to Jiffy Lube. They forgot to
add oil. Thankfully, I did check everything prior to driving off their
lot. I had a crowd gathering with my yelling. They offered a years

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

larry_th...@shitstring.com (Larry Thong) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:44:05 UT

Well, I did take a picture of it with the trusty old D3 and 28-70/2.8
Nikkor, buy decided against posting it because the car is dirty and
those 20" wheels aren't shiny.

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

larry_th...@shitstring.com (Larry Thong) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:43:42 UT

Me wrote:
OUCH! Thanks for the link as I never knew this.

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

w...@comcast.net (Bill Graham) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:21:35 UT

All of my life, Detroit built what they wanted to build, and then hired
Madison Avenue people to get the buying public to think they wanted it. The
Japanese polled the public to find out what they wanted, and then built it.
This is the main philosophical difference between the two, and it is the

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

w...@comcast.net (Bill Graham) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:11:51 UT

This has exacly what to do with photography and why would anybody with
a new 50000 car be changing and disposing of oil. What bs
I'll tell you why. I bought a new Hyundai around 20 years ago. Before I went
on a 1200 mile trip with it, I had the local Chrysler dealer (who serviced
them then) change the transmission oil. They forgot to refill the oil in the

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

x...@y.invalid ((PeteCresswell)) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:10:10 UT

Per Bill Graham:
I've got a Chevy Suburban: first (and probably the last...) new
car I've ever owned. Might buy another GM product, but it would
only be because I couldn't find anything else with the ergonomics
for my right-of-the-bell-curve body dimensions.
Before the 'burb it was a series of beaters.

Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????

w...@comcast.net (Bill Graham) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:01:39 UT

This is why I abandoned the US auto manufacturers about 30 years ago. I have
owned nothing but Subaru's for the last 12 years. I have one with 150
thousand miles on it, and it only quit once, when the speed sending unit on
the transmission failed. And even then, it still ran, but didn't run right,