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  35mm cameras and lenses.
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  <updated>2009-11-22T18:21:59Z</updated>
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  <name>Robert Coe</name>
  <email>b...@1776.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T18:21:59Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:58:51 -0500, tony cooper &amp;lt;tony_cooper...@earthlink.net&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Don&#39;t give up, Tony. Some of us did get it! :^) &lt;br&gt; Bob
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  <author>
  <name>Elliott Roper</name>
  <email>nos...@yrl.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T15:20:52Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;hea0md$sn...@news.eternal-sep tember.org&amp;gt;, Noons &lt;br&gt; You originally said &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;The mathematical work on vernier scales was done by a guy called &lt;br&gt; Pedro Nunes and was used by the Portuguese to calculate deviations, &lt;br&gt; declinations and navigation tables since the 14th century, smack bang &lt;br&gt; in the middle ages. It&#39;s how they managed to work their way around the
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  <author>
  <name>Noons</name>
  <email>wizofo...@yahoo.com.au</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T00:30:43Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  Elliott Roper wrote,on my timestamp of 22/11/2009 12:03 AM: &lt;br&gt; So what? Did anyone create a mark post in history saying this is middle ages, &lt;br&gt; that is renaissance, all around the world? Renaissance might have started in &lt;br&gt; the 16th century somewhere in Europe. Hardly everywhere in the world. Even &lt;br&gt; today there are places where it hasn&#39;t started...
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  <author>
  <name>Tzortzakakis Dimitrios</name>
  <email>no...@nospam.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T16:52:22Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  ? &amp;quot;Elliott Roper&amp;quot; &amp;lt;nos...@yrl.co.uk&amp;gt; ?????? ??? ?????? &lt;br&gt; In my college, here in Iraklion, &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.teiher.gr&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; , we did complex numbers, &lt;br&gt; hyperbolic sin and cos, tables 2X 2 etc, calculus and double integral &lt;br&gt; calculus. Never mind I ended up as an electrician;we are in a no-man&#39;s land &lt;br&gt; between the scientists (university graduates) and technicians (trade school
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  <author>
  <name>Elliott Roper</name>
  <email>nos...@yrl.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T13:12:34Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;he8org02...@news6.newsguy.com &amp;gt;, J. Clarke &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m in violent agreement with all of that. &lt;br&gt; However, the original part of that discussion was about 15 year-olds &lt;br&gt; and logs. Only a few will have started calculus at that age in high &lt;br&gt; school. Few of those will be integrating 1/u du by then. A bit of a
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  <author>
  <name>Elliott Roper</name>
  <email>nos...@yrl.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T13:03:46Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;he8h85$nt...@news.eternal-sep tember.org&amp;gt;, Noons &lt;br&gt; Pedro Nunes 1502-1578. That is, he was *born* 2 years into the 16th C. &lt;br&gt; Perhaps his great-great-great-great grandad passed it on down the &lt;br&gt; family? &lt;br&gt; You are also wrong about the dates of Portuguese navigation primacy. &lt;br&gt; Vasco da Gama made it to India in 1498 - two years before the end of
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  <name>J. Clarke</name>
  <email>jclarke.use...@cox.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T12:56:48Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  Most college bound high school students in the US who don&#39;t get calculus in &lt;br&gt; high school will get a course called &amp;quot;Precalculus Mathematics&amp;quot; that hits &lt;br&gt; exponentials and logs pretty heavily. You need logs to handle any &amp;quot;Integral &lt;br&gt; of 1/u du&amp;quot; type problem so they&#39;re important in calculus even if you don&#39;t
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  <author>
  <name>Elliott Roper</name>
  <email>nos...@yrl.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T12:03:42Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;La2dnRcFo9UW3prWnZ2dnUVZ_gOdn ...@giganews.com&amp;gt;, Bill Graham &lt;br&gt; Er no. Not if her mum and grandad have anything to do with it, she&#39;ll &lt;br&gt; be fine. &lt;br&gt; Also, here in UK, nobody majors in anything at 15, except perhaps &lt;br&gt; soccer. &lt;br&gt; Looking at maths syllabuses for primary and junior high school would &lt;br&gt; support your position. Of course nobody will be taught log table use -
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  <name>Noons</name>
  <email>wizofo...@yahoo.com.au</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T11:00:57Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  Elliott Roper wrote,on my timestamp of 21/11/2009 11:22 AM: &lt;br&gt; Yes. &lt;br&gt; The mathematical work on vernier scales was done by a guy called Pedro Nunes and &lt;br&gt; was used by the Portuguese to calculate deviations, declinations and navigation &lt;br&gt; tables since the 14th century, smack bang in the middle ages. It&#39;s how they
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  <author>
  <name>Savageduck</name>
  <email>savagedu...@{removespam}me.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T06:18:03Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  Damn! these place are all the same! It is the La Quinta Inn. &lt;br&gt; One &amp;quot;Q&amp;quot; is like another.
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  <author>
  <name>Savageduck</name>
  <email>savagedu...@{removespam}me.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T06:14:07Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  Airport Blvd. Quintana Inn.
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  <author>
  <name>David Nebenzahl</name>
  <email>nob...@but.us.chickens</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T05:51:34Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  On 11/20/2009 9:13 PM Savageduck spake thus: &lt;br&gt; Let me guess: one of them motels in South City next to 101? &lt;br&gt; (Used to live in San Bruno, so that was my old stomping grounds.)
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  <author>
  <name>Savageduck</name>
  <email>savagedu...@{removespam}me.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T05:13:05Z</updated>
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  OK, OK, I was probably just a little too pedantic. &lt;br&gt; ...and I got the joke. &lt;br&gt; Anyway I am in a hotel room right now waiting to fly out of SFO early &lt;br&gt; in the AM. &lt;br&gt; I am truly thankful to have free broadband in this room.
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  <author>
  <name>tony cooper</name>
  <email>tony_cooper...@earthlink.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T04:58:51Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: When Did Detroit Start Building Cars Like Japanese dSLRs????</title>
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  On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:27:54 -0800, Savageduck &lt;br&gt; You think I didn&#39;t know that? A mantilla is a (usually) lace scarf &lt;br&gt; worn by Spanish women as a veil. Just a word-play joke. I probably &lt;br&gt; shouldn&#39;t joke in this group.
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  <name>Savageduck</name>
  <email>savagedu...@{removespam}me.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T04:27:54Z</updated>
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  Forget Spanish ladies and veils, think in terms of significand. &lt;br&gt; Traditional usage of &amp;quot;mantissa&amp;quot; regarding logarithms refers to the &lt;br&gt; fractional part of a logarithm.
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