My personal favorites are Tony's "Biker" and Michael's "karate kid." (because my own son went through the black belt program and I've got a few like that one...)
> My personal favorites are Tony's "Biker" and Michael's "karate kid." > (because my own son went through the black belt program and I've got a > few like that one...)
>My personal favorites are Tony's "Biker" and Michael's "karate kid." >(because my own son went through the black belt program and I've got a few >like that one...)
Can we have the names added to the ones that are currently from anonymous contributors?
>> My personal favorites are Tony's "Biker" and Michael's "karate >> kid." (because my own son went through the black belt program and >> I've got a few like that one...)
> Can we have the names added to the ones that are currently from > anonymous contributors?
> And, "thank you" for the comment.
Sorry. I was stuck in a previous "anonymous" mode.
Mine are the Marfa Courthouse, the running dog, and the Jasmine strand.
>My personal favorites are Tony's "Biker" and Michael's "karate kid." >(because my own son went through the black belt program and I've got a few >like that one...)
Ta for that, and now to something completely different.
If I lived in a big city, I could spend all of the time I allocate to photography to street photography. Nothing is more rewarding to me than catching a good candid shot of someone with some character in their face.
Orlando isn't a suitable venue for this, though. There's no one area where I can go and lurk waiting for interesting people to walk by. So, I go to biker bars.
The "Biker" was shot in a biker bar. There's a brick and mortar bar on one side, a tiki bar on another side, and a large open area between the two for motorcycle parking. I hunkered down in the middle area with my back to a trash barrel and shot from there. I'm learning to shoot from a sitting position up at the people who walk by in order to not pull in a lot of background clutter.
Bikers, in general, don't mind you taking their picture, but I think I get better shots when they don't know I am taking a picture. I seldom get eye contact this way, and I seldom get more than one burst of shots of the same person. Sometimes I do get a "looking at me" shot: http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Photography/Bikers/bikerwhip/475703785_... (taken at the same place, but some months ago.)
Biker shots are a problem in that if you want to go where the bikers congregate and photograph them, midday is the best time. A lot of facial shadows go along with that.
The "Fountain" photo is a favorite of mine even though the reviews weren't good. It was shot in a salvage yard that is jam-packed with architectural goodies from demolished houses. I could barely walk through the old sinks, doors, windows, garden benches, iron railings, and bits and pieces of Victorian-style houses. There, in the middle of all this clutter, was this fountain with that odd, blue paint on it. I would have liked to have been able to move the white ironwork out of the frame, but I rather like the rest of the background.
The "Watering Can" was fish in a barrel. It was on a shelf on the shed behind the fountain. I had to move a couple of things to isolate the can, but it was just a photograph waiting to happen.
To the other photographs in this month's collection:
I'll preface this by saying that landscape scenes are not my thing. Even though some contributors have done a good - even great - job, they just don't capture my interest. They all scream "calendar art" to me. That's bias and prejudice on my part, and not a reflection on the efforts of the contributors. Also a bit of jealousy based on no longer living where the leaves change.
Russell's barn intrigues me, but it's my thought that part of the barn would have made a better shot than all of the barn. Get closer and show detail.
I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me. I also like the Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from Cadillac.
Rah, rah, rah for Bowser's cheerleaders. I like Solomon's girl in a mask, but would have cropped out the man on the left. What's wrong with square crops, people?
Bret's hummingbird is a great shot, but I could pick six better pictures from the site he linked to earlier of the Christian football fans. This one lacks dynamics. Gimme one where that moral righteousness jumps off the screen, Bret. You have some on that other site.
Elliott Roper didn't post an image that particularly appeals to me, but somehow I know that he has some that would. I like his quirky eye to what is photographable.
It was Birds 6 - Dogs 2, and the Birds won in more ways than quantity.
On 2009-10-26 21:06:08 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> said:
> <--------------------------------------------------------------> > I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a > Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me.
You have no idea of how much it bothers me!
> I also like the > Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. > Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. > La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from > Cadillac.
Certainly Lasalle was a GM subdivision, however under the skin it was built by Cadillac and was mechanically a Cadillac, and was more of a custom bodywork option for Cadillac engineered by Harley Earl and Lawrence Fisher and executed by Fleetwood. It was originally meant to have been a Pontiac, but that never panned out. Some variants had Olds engines, but most were Cadillac options.
At various times in the 50's, 60's & 70's the label was passed back to Oldsmobile and Buick in an attempt to add a fancy model badge to production line blandness. Some of those models also had twists on the spelling "La Salle" as compared with "Lasalle."
The one in my shot was identified as a Cadillac variant by the owner.
> On 2009-10-26 21:06:08 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> said: >> <-------------------------------------------------------------->
>> I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a >> Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me.
> You have no idea of how much it bothers me!
>> I also like the >> Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. >> Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. >> La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from >> Cadillac.
> Certainly Lasalle was a GM subdivision, however under the skin it was > built by Cadillac and was mechanically a Cadillac, and was more of a > custom bodywork option for Cadillac engineered by Harley Earl and > Lawrence Fisher and executed by Fleetwood. It was originally meant to > have been a Pontiac, but that never panned out. Some variants had Olds > engines, but most were Cadillac options.
> At various times in the 50's, 60's & 70's the label was passed back to > Oldsmobile and Buick in an attempt to add a fancy model badge to > production line blandness. Some of those models also had twists on the > spelling "La Salle" as compared with "Lasalle."
> The one in my shot was identified as a Cadillac variant by the owner.
BTW one of the reasons I went with the B&W rendition was due to the color reflections the Lasalle picked up from other cars. Here is the ...er profile shot in color and a "green" filter B&W conversion.
I won't go into the problems of reflections of my 60 year old legs in shorts!!
>> On 2009-10-26 21:06:08 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> said: >>> <-------------------------------------------------------------->
>>> I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a >>> Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me.
>> You have no idea of how much it bothers me!
>>> I also like the >>> Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. >>> Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. >>> La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from >>> Cadillac.
>> Certainly Lasalle was a GM subdivision, however under the skin it was >> built by Cadillac and was mechanically a Cadillac, and was more of a >> custom bodywork option for Cadillac engineered by Harley Earl and >> Lawrence Fisher and executed by Fleetwood. It was originally meant to >> have been a Pontiac, but that never panned out. Some variants had Olds >> engines, but most were Cadillac options.
>> At various times in the 50's, 60's & 70's the label was passed back to >> Oldsmobile and Buick in an attempt to add a fancy model badge to >> production line blandness. Some of those models also had twists on the >> spelling "La Salle" as compared with "Lasalle."
>> The one in my shot was identified as a Cadillac variant by the owner.
>BTW one of the reasons I went with the B&W rendition was due to the >color reflections the Lasalle picked up from other cars. Here is the >...er profile shot in color and a "green" filter B&W conversion.
>I won't go into the problems of reflections of my 60 year old legs in shorts!!
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:57:19 -0700, Savageduck > <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-10-26 22:20:52 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
>>> On 2009-10-26 21:06:08 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> said: >>>> <-------------------------------------------------------------->
>>>> I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a >>>> Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me.
>>> You have no idea of how much it bothers me!
>>>> I also like the >>>> Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. >>>> Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. >>>> La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from >>>> Cadillac.
>>> Certainly Lasalle was a GM subdivision, however under the skin it was >>> built by Cadillac and was mechanically a Cadillac, and was more of a >>> custom bodywork option for Cadillac engineered by Harley Earl and >>> Lawrence Fisher and executed by Fleetwood. It was originally meant to >>> have been a Pontiac, but that never panned out. Some variants had Olds >>> engines, but most were Cadillac options.
>>> At various times in the 50's, 60's & 70's the label was passed back to >>> Oldsmobile and Buick in an attempt to add a fancy model badge to >>> production line blandness. Some of those models also had twists on the >>> spelling "La Salle" as compared with "Lasalle."
>>> The one in my shot was identified as a Cadillac variant by the owner.
>> BTW one of the reasons I went with the B&W rendition was due to the >> color reflections the Lasalle picked up from other cars. Here is the >> ...er profile shot in color and a "green" filter B&W conversion.
>> I won't go into the problems of reflections of my 60 year old legs in shorts!!
> I just found out tonight that the Winter Park Annual Concours > d'Elegance will be November 8th. I'll go. I'll take my camera. I'll > take photographs.
> You probably won't ever see them. I've done cars before, and the > chrome blow-out, reflections, and the cluttered backgrounds drive me > around the bend.
Go on, live dangerously. Blow out some of those highlights. ...but whatever you do watch the legs!
> Elliott Roper didn't post an image that particularly appeals to me, > but somehow I know that he has some that would. I like his quirky eye > to what is photographable.
Left-handed compliments are the best sort. Thanks.
I'll probably never get an artist's eye, but I like a picture that grabs you for long enough to spot the story inside the story. The lighthouse optic was a lie within a lie. Apart from the self-portrait being a happy accident that demonstrated the quality of the mirror, that parabolic reflector dates the lighthouse to just about before it was built. It would have had an oil lamp, not a gas mantle. The parabolic reflector would have been replaced by a Fresnel lens very early in its life. It is hard to spot on the 300KB SI picture, but inside the mantle, the museum had sneaked an ordinary 50W tungsten bulb. In the immortal words from Twin Peaks - things are not as they seem.
Some of the others I shot in the Shetland Museum and Archive were so weird I self-censored them. So Tony, you made a good call.
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>> You probably won't ever see them. I've done cars before, and the >> chrome blow-out, reflections, and the cluttered backgrounds drive me >> around the bend.
>Go on, live dangerously. Blow out some of those highlights. >...but whatever you do watch the legs!
>>> You probably won't ever see them. I've done cars before, and the >>> chrome blow-out, reflections, and the cluttered backgrounds drive me >>> around the bend.
>> Go on, live dangerously. Blow out some of those highlights. >> ...but whatever you do watch the legs!
In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Rah, rah, rah for Bowser's cheerleaders. I like Solomon's girl in a > mask, but would have cropped out the man on the left. What's wrong > with square crops, people?
I didn't like a square composition here, but I could have cropped the guy out, yeah. Serves me right for getting these in at the eleventy-first hour without any thought for processing.
It was a very dry spell for me until the final week, thanks in no small part to being pretty sick for most of it...
- Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Melbourne, FL ^^ (mail/jabber/gtalk) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
>> On 2009-10-26 21:06:08 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> said: >>> <-------------------------------------------------------------->
>>> I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a >>> Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me.
>> You have no idea of how much it bothers me!
>>> I also like the >>> Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. >>> Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. >>> La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from >>> Cadillac.
>> Certainly Lasalle was a GM subdivision, however under the skin it was >> built by Cadillac and was mechanically a Cadillac, and was more of a >> custom bodywork option for Cadillac engineered by Harley Earl and >> Lawrence Fisher and executed by Fleetwood. It was originally meant to >> have been a Pontiac, but that never panned out. Some variants had Olds >> engines, but most were Cadillac options.
>> At various times in the 50's, 60's & 70's the label was passed back to >> Oldsmobile and Buick in an attempt to add a fancy model badge to >> production line blandness. Some of those models also had twists on the >> spelling "La Salle" as compared with "Lasalle."
>> The one in my shot was identified as a Cadillac variant by the owner.
>BTW one of the reasons I went with the B&W rendition was due to the >color reflections the Lasalle picked up from other cars. Here is the >...er profile shot in color and a "green" filter B&W conversion.
>I won't go into the problems of reflections of my 60 year old legs in shorts!!
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:17:57 -0400, "Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote:
> Rah, rah, rah for Bowser's cheerleaders. I like Solomon's girl in a > mask, but would have cropped out the man on the left. What's wrong > with square crops, people?
See? Everyone loves cheerleaders.
> Bret's hummingbird is a great shot, but I could pick six better > pictures from the site he linked to earlier of the Christian football > fans. This one lacks dynamics. Gimme one where that moral > righteousness jumps off the screen, Bret. You have some on that other > site.
But those Christians made the national news! I liked that shot; good PJ stuff.
> Elliott Roper didn't post an image that particularly appeals to me, > but somehow I know that he has some that would. I like his quirky eye > to what is photographable.
> It was Birds 6 - Dogs 2, and the Birds won in more ways than quantity.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:06:08 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote: : On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:17:57 -0400, "Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote: : : >A very nice collection this month; best I've seen in a while. Take a look : >here: : > : >http://www.pbase.com/shootin/your_favorite : > : >My personal favorites are Tony's "Biker" and Michael's "karate kid." : >(because my own son went through the black belt program and I've got a few : >like that one...) : : Ta for that, and now to something completely different. : : If I lived in a big city, I could spend all of the time I allocate to : photography to street photography. Nothing is more rewarding to me : than catching a good candid shot of someone with some character in : their face. : : Orlando isn't a suitable venue for this, though. There's no one area : where I can go and lurk waiting for interesting people to walk by. : So, I go to biker bars. : : The "Biker" was shot in a biker bar. There's a brick and mortar bar : on one side, a tiki bar on another side, and a large open area between : the two for motorcycle parking. I hunkered down in the middle area : with my back to a trash barrel and shot from there. I'm learning to : shoot from a sitting position up at the people who walk by in order to : not pull in a lot of background clutter.
Tony, that's a great picture; I really can't find any fault with it. But if you call him a "Biker", you have to show the BIKE. Yhe shot falls a little flat for me for that reason only.
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:20:52 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: : On 2009-10-26 21:06:08 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> said: : > <--------------------------------------------------------------> : : > I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a : > Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me. : : You have no idea of how much it bothers me! : : > I also like the : > Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. : > Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. : > La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from : > Cadillac. : : Certainly Lasalle was a GM subdivision, however under the skin it was : built by Cadillac and was mechanically a Cadillac, and was more of a : custom bodywork option for Cadillac engineered by Harley Earl and : Lawrence Fisher and executed by Fleetwood. It was originally meant to : have been a Pontiac, but that never panned out. Some variants had Olds : engines, but most were Cadillac options. : : At various times in the 50's, 60's & 70's the label was passed back to : Oldsmobile and Buick in an attempt to add a fancy model badge to : production line blandness. Some of those models also had twists on the : spelling "La Salle" as compared with "Lasalle."
Are you sure you're not thinking of "Le Sabre"? I saw a LaSalle once or twice as a kid, but I don't think I ever saw a new one. (I was born in 1937.)
"Gee, our old LaSalle ran great!" - Archie and Edith Bunker
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:30:13 -0400, Robert Coe <b...@1776.COM> wrote: >On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:06:08 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> >wrote: >: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:17:57 -0400, "Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote: >: >: >A very nice collection this month; best I've seen in a while. Take a look >: >here: >: > >: >http://www.pbase.com/shootin/your_favorite >: > >: >My personal favorites are Tony's "Biker" and Michael's "karate kid." >: >(because my own son went through the black belt program and I've got a few >: >like that one...) >: >: Ta for that, and now to something completely different. >: >: If I lived in a big city, I could spend all of the time I allocate to >: photography to street photography. Nothing is more rewarding to me >: than catching a good candid shot of someone with some character in >: their face. >: >: Orlando isn't a suitable venue for this, though. There's no one area >: where I can go and lurk waiting for interesting people to walk by. >: So, I go to biker bars. >: >: The "Biker" was shot in a biker bar. There's a brick and mortar bar >: on one side, a tiki bar on another side, and a large open area between >: the two for motorcycle parking. I hunkered down in the middle area >: with my back to a trash barrel and shot from there. I'm learning to >: shoot from a sitting position up at the people who walk by in order to >: not pull in a lot of background clutter.
>Tony, that's a great picture; I really can't find any fault with it. But if >you call him a "Biker", you have to show the BIKE. Yhe shot falls a little >flat for me for that reason only.
Photographing the bikes doesn't do it for me. If the composition is the man *and* the bike, the man's face becomes an also-ran. Besides, this guy has the Harley emblem on his hat.
I don't mention this around the subjects of the photos, but I don't particularly like Harleys. When I rode, it was a vintage Moto Guzzi. I bought a 1973 Eldorado and a 1972 Ambassador about 15 years ago. Both basket bikes when I bought them. Never did get the Eldorado running, but had some fun on the Ambassador. Sold them both.
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:20:52 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> > wrote: > : On 2009-10-26 21:06:08 -0700, tony cooper > <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> said: > : > <--------------------------------------------------------------> > : > : > I like the Duck's Auburn (my Dad claimed he owned an Auburn, but not a > : > Boattail), but the reflection of the leg bothers me. > : > : You have no idea of how much it bothers me! > : > : > I also like the > : > Cadillac, and primarily because the Duck did it in black and white. > : > Is it a Cadillac La Salle, though? I think that's a 1934 La Salle. > : > La Salle was also made by General Motors but a separate marque from > : > Cadillac. > : > : Certainly Lasalle was a GM subdivision, however under the skin it was > : built by Cadillac and was mechanically a Cadillac, and was more of a > : custom bodywork option for Cadillac engineered by Harley Earl and > : Lawrence Fisher and executed by Fleetwood. It was originally meant to > : have been a Pontiac, but that never panned out. Some variants had Olds > : engines, but most were Cadillac options. > : > : At various times in the 50's, 60's & 70's the label was passed back to > : Oldsmobile and Buick in an attempt to add a fancy model badge to > : production line blandness. Some of those models also had twists on the > : spelling "La Salle" as compared with "Lasalle."
> Are you sure you're not thinking of "Le Sabre"? I saw a LaSalle once or twice > as a kid, but I don't think I ever saw a new one. (I was born in 1937.)
> "Gee, our old LaSalle ran great!" > - Archie and Edith Bunker
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