On 2009-11-08 17:47:29 -0500, Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> said:
> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil > filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap > from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon > they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
Except that Lincoln is made by Ford and that's the one company that DIDN'T need a bailout. -- Michael
"Larry Thong" <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote in message news:yPSdndov5ssc12rXnZ2dnUVZ_rZi4p2d@supernews.com... > Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil > filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap > from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon > they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
A doctor friend of mine bought one of those Mercedes "pocket SUVs", and soon after, the rear struts needed replacing. About $6,000 later, he sold it. Another friend had a Mercedes and the alternator gave out. Could he just buy the brushes and repair it himself? No. He bought a new alternator, then sold the car... Jes' sayin', yuh no...;-) --DR
On Nov 8, 4:47 pm, Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote:
> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil > filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap > from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon > they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
This has exacly what to do with photography and why would anybody with a new 50000 car be changing and disposing of oil. What bs
> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil > filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap > from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon > they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
This is why I abandoned the US auto manufacturers about 30 years ago. I have owned nothing but Subaru's for the last 12 years. I have one with 150 thousand miles on it, and it only quit once, when the speed sending unit on the transmission failed. And even then, it still ran, but didn't run right, so we had to replace the part ASAP.
>This is why I abandoned the US auto manufacturers about 30 years ago. I have >owned nothing but Subaru's for the last 12 years. I have one with 150 >thousand miles on it, and it only quit once, when the speed sending unit on >the transmission failed. And even then, it still ran, but didn't run right, >so we had to replace the part ASAP.
I've got a Chevy Suburban: first (and probably the last...) new car I've ever owned. Might buy another GM product, but it would only be because I couldn't find anything else with the ergonomics for my right-of-the-bell-curve body dimensions.
Before the 'burb it was a series of beaters.
The 'burb has stranded me more times (six) than all the beaters put together (one). Google "4L60E valve body" and you'll get a little glimpse....
One story I've heard - that rings true to me - is that American auto companies tend to be run by business school graduates, while Japanese auto companies tend tb run by engineers. -- PeteCresswell
> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil > filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap > from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon > they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
This has exacly what to do with photography and why would anybody with a new 50000 car be changing and disposing of oil. What bs
I'll tell you why. I bought a new Hyundai around 20 years ago. Before I went on a 1200 mile trip with it, I had the local Chrysler dealer (who serviced them then) change the transmission oil. They forgot to refill the oil in the manual transmission, and I drove the car 600 miles the next day on a "dry" transmission. If failed the next morning when I backed it out of my friends driveway. If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself, (or, at least supervise it yourself) especially when you are dealing with American, (big three) auto mechanics.
> Per Bill Graham: >>This is why I abandoned the US auto manufacturers about 30 years ago. I >>have >>owned nothing but Subaru's for the last 12 years. I have one with 150 >>thousand miles on it, and it only quit once, when the speed sending unit >>on >>the transmission failed. And even then, it still ran, but didn't run >>right, >>so we had to replace the part ASAP.
> I've got a Chevy Suburban: first (and probably the last...) new > car I've ever owned. Might buy another GM product, but it would > only be because I couldn't find anything else with the ergonomics > for my right-of-the-bell-curve body dimensions.
> Before the 'burb it was a series of beaters.
> The 'burb has stranded me more times (six) than all the beaters > put together (one). Google "4L60E valve body" and you'll get a > little glimpse....
> One story I've heard - that rings true to me - is that American > auto companies tend to be run by business school graduates, while > Japanese auto companies tend tb run by engineers. > -- > PeteCresswell
All of my life, Detroit built what they wanted to build, and then hired Madison Avenue people to get the buying public to think they wanted it. The Japanese polled the public to find out what they wanted, and then built it. This is the main philosophical difference between the two, and it is the reason why I now buy strictly Japanese. (Although I was very pleased with my BMW K-100 motorcycle.)
ransley wrote: >> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >> FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a >> GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
> This has exacly what to do with photography and why would anybody with > a new 50000 car be changing and disposing of oil. What bs
Well, I did take a picture of it with the trusty old D3 and 28-70/2.8 Nikkor, buy decided against posting it because the car is dirty and those 20" wheels aren't shiny.
Bill Graham wrote: > If you want it done right, you > have to do it yourself, (or, at least supervise it yourself) especially > when you are dealing with American, (big three) auto mechanics.
You got it! I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. The one and only time I was too lazy to get my dead ass under the car was during a cold winter's day many years back and took it to Jiffy Lube. They forgot to add oil. Thankfully, I did check everything prior to driving off their lot. I had a crowd gathering with my yelling. They offered a years supply of free oil changes. Yeah, like I would trust them ever again?
On 2009-11-08 15:39:50 -0800, Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> said:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:23:20 -0500, David Ruether wrote:
>>> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >>> FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, >>> a GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
>> A doctor friend of mine bought one of those Mercedes "pocket SUVs", and >> soon after, the rear struts needed replacing. About $6,000 later, he >> sold it. Another friend had a Mercedes and the alternator gave out. >> Could he just buy the brushes and repair it himself? No. He bought a new >> alternator, then sold the car... >> Jes' sayin', yuh no...;-)
> That's just it, I don't know what these exact parts will cost me from the > Lincoln dealer.
Welcome to the club Rita.
In recent years I have owned 3 Fords, a Probe GT(traded), a Contour LX (wrecked)& an Escape XLS(still driven by my step-daughter from Hell, with 235K on the clock), dealer sevices on the Probe & Contour were always more expensive than the services on any of my 3 Mercedes, a 560SEL, an S600 coupe & the current E350. The Probe and Contour services always seemed to be in the $300 range. For major services on the Escape around $280 and about $80 for oil & filter changes.
The Contour did pretty good when I fell asleep at the wheel on Hwy 101 after working 18 hours straight 2 days in a row, and rolled it at about 75 MPH. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ford_08.jpg
The only thing on V12 S600 which was unusual was the $120 wiperblade which came with a special assembly. I traded that when the AC compressor went at 180K and would have run $2800 for parts and $800-1000 for labor. The work would not have added one cent to trade value.
With the E350 the costs for service to date have been:
1: 3000 mile first service (at 2866 miles) total cost $0.00
2: Scheduled 13,000 mile service (at 12,808 miles)
> > Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > > was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > > Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > > thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > > the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil > > filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap > > from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon > > they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
> > Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > > FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > > GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
> A doctor friend of mine bought one of those Mercedes "pocket SUVs", > and soon after, the rear struts needed replacing. About $6,000 later, > he sold it. Another friend had a Mercedes and the alternator gave out. > Could he just buy the brushes and repair it himself? No. He bought a > new alternator, then sold the car... > Jes' sayin', yuh no...;-) > --DR
Status-conscious yuppies make me sick. They buy expensive Eurotrash vehicles all the while being completely oblivious to the FACT their overall quality SUCKS. They get what they ask for.
>Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy >was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. >Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' >thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and >the Fram isn't compatible.
You bought the wrong filter and you think that it's somebody else's fault?
>Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a >GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
Umm, according to Consumer Reports, the reliability of Mercedes is crap. You'd do better with a Ford.
> Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote: >> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy >> was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. >> Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' >> thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and >> the Fram isn't compatible.
> You bought the wrong filter and you think that it's somebody else's > fault?
>> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >> FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a >> GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
> Umm, according to Consumer Reports, the reliability of Mercedes is > crap. You'd do better with a Ford.
I must have been lucky over the last 45 odd years; 1963 FIAT 2300, amazingly straight six, no problems. 1968 VW Beetle 1500, replaced throttle cable. 1971 Subaru, no issues 1969 Chevy Impala, Aaaaaaaaagh! 1970 Datsun 260, bullet proof. 1975 BMW 520, no mechanical issue but rust prone door bottoms and rocker panels. 1986 Subaru, broken timing belt @ 65K no other engine damage, traded at 120K. 1989 Ford Probe GT, no issues, traded @130K 2001 Ford Contour LX, transmission failure @35K, wrecked. 1986 Mercedes 560SEL, bought used with 85K, no issues, traded @265K 2003 Ford Escape still used by my "step-daughter from Hell" current 235K with no issues. 1996 Mercedes S600 coupe, bought used @64K traded @ 180K AC compressor failure. 2008 Mercedes E350 current with no issues.
and then there was the nightmare Chrysler Pacifica, blown engine with a rod through the case @ 85K.
> "ransley" <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:9b73d4af-d28b-4ecc-8258-ee4122c7b518@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 8, 4:47 pm, Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote: >> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy >> was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. >> Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' >> thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and >> the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil >> filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap >> from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon >> they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
>> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >> FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a >> GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
> This has exacly what to do with photography and why would anybody with > a new 50000 car be changing and disposing of oil. What bs
> I'll tell you why. I bought a new Hyundai around 20 years ago. Before I > went on a 1200 mile trip with it, I had the local Chrysler dealer (who > serviced them then) change the transmission oil. They forgot to refill the > oil in the manual transmission, and I drove the car 600 miles the next day > on a "dry" transmission. If failed the next morning when I backed it out > of my friends driveway. If you want it done right, you have to do it > yourself, (or, at least supervise it yourself) especially when you are > dealing with American, (big three) auto mechanics.
Depends on the dealership and its service dept. One of the reasons I buy Chevrolets now is that the local Chevy dealer is great. Service is good, prompt, reliable and very reasonably priced. Oil and filter change, topping off all fluids, checking everything etc. is about $25, and they always throw in a free wash job. Also my main credit card is the GM card, which gives me 5% credit on my next new GM car on every purchase -- and I put almost everything on the card. And I like the cars anyway.
I haven't bothered with changing my own oil and filter for at least 30 years. But you *do* need a dealership you can really depend on.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:47:29 -0600, Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote:
>Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy >was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. >Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' >thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and >the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil >filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap >from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon >they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
>Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a >GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
You don't like the mexican product so you pick German? Mercedes? And you blame the Union?? They didn't design it!
See you in the garage!! Have fun buying inflated price parts!
BTW I'll never buy a Ford, if they were the last car company on the planet, I'd get a bus pass. Serves you right!
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:47:29 -0600, Larry Thong > <larry_th...@shitstring.com> > wrote:
>>Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy >>was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. >>Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' >>thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and >>the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil >>filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap >>from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon >>they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
>>Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >>FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a >>GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
> You don't like the mexican product so you pick German? Mercedes? And you > blame > the Union?? They didn't design it!
They put it together, though. I doubt there's anything wrong with the *design* of the car or anything in it, but some American cars have been very poorly assembled.
> See you in the garage!! Have fun buying inflated price parts!
> BTW I'll never buy a Ford, if they were the last car company on the > planet, I'd > get a bus pass. Serves you right!
There have been some very good Fords and Mercurys and also some very sloppily assembled ones. I've owned a few of both. Never bought a Lincoln.
> > Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote: > >> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > >> was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > >> Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > >> thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > >> the Fram isn't compatible.
> > You bought the wrong filter and you think that it's somebody else's > > fault?
> >> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > >> FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > >> GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
> > Umm, according to Consumer Reports, the reliability of Mercedes is > > crap. You'd do better with a Ford.
> I must have been lucky over the last 45 odd years; > 1963 FIAT 2300, amazingly straight six, no problems.
Yay! I might have bought yours! $AU900 with about 100,000 miles on the clock in 1969. I put another 150,000 on. By then the stuffing was coming out the seats, the dashboard plastic was disintegrating in the Sydney sun, and apart from the gear linkages, which were a nightmare, it was utterly reliable, fast and safe. Had it towed away for $10 when I could not afford a new battery for it many years later
Fiat never made a better car
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> In article <2009110819540784492-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-11-08 19:21:11 -0800, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:
>>> Larry Thong <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote: >>>> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy >>>> was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. >>>> Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' >>>> thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and >>>> the Fram isn't compatible.
>>> You bought the wrong filter and you think that it's somebody else's >>> fault?
>>>> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! >>>> FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a >>>> GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
>>> Umm, according to Consumer Reports, the reliability of Mercedes is >>> crap. You'd do better with a Ford.
>> I must have been lucky over the last 45 odd years; >> 1963 FIAT 2300, amazingly straight six, no problems. > Yay! > I might have bought yours! $AU900 with about 100,000 miles on the clock > in 1969. I put another 150,000 on. By then the stuffing was coming out > the seats, the dashboard plastic was disintegrating in the Sydney sun, > and apart from the gear linkages, which were a nightmare, it was > utterly reliable, fast and safe. Had it towed away for $10 when I could > not afford a new battery for it many years later
> Fiat never made a better car
Agreed.
four on the column, and the first standard production car with four wheel disc brakes! ...and it could move and hanled well. Mine was a dark grey. It was handed down to a cousin and he finally wrecked it in 1975.
>but some American cars have been very >poorly assembled.
My suburban was assembled in Mexico.
One of the first things I noticed were the streams of rust bleeding down from where they aligned parts of the front body using iron or steel spacers that were already rusting badly on Day 1.
The second thing I "noticed" was smoke pouring out of the right rear brake - which locked up on day 7. Turns out the prevailing wisdom was "never engage the parking brake in freezing weather because it tends to lock up". Assembly or design? Dunno... but you'd think they'd have something that basic worked out after 50+ years design-wise.
As of now, the roof metal around the left side roof rack attachment points is rusting so badly it's starting to blister. I can't even disassemble the racks/attachment bolts bc it's all one big mass of rust. I pulled the right-side bolts to have a look and was scared by what I saw: just holes drilled in the body metal with these little clips on the other side of the bolts. No nut welded to the other side, no backing, no after-assembly rust proofing.
I was hoping to go for a quarter-mil miles, but this could be the precipitating factor in getting rid of the thing. -- PeteCresswell
"Larry Thong" <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote in message news:dpidnQTTPoaa6WrXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@supernews.com... > Bill Graham wrote: >> If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself, (or, at least supervise it yourself) especially when you are dealing with >> American, (big three) auto mechanics. > You got it! I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. The one and only > time I was too lazy to get my dead ass under the car was during a cold > winter's day many years back and took it to Jiffy Lube. They forgot to > add oil. Thankfully, I did check everything prior to driving off their > lot. I had a crowd gathering with my yelling. They offered a years > supply of free oil changes. Yeah, like I would trust them ever again?
Jiffy Lube - changed the Toyota oil and filter, got the filter wrong and the oil leaked slowly out, damaging the engine. The most they would settle for out of court was $400... --DR
> Tried to do the first oil change on my new Lincoln MKX AWD today and boy > was I in for a big surprise! Bought a Fram PH3600 as the book suggests. > Sure enough, I tried to screw the new filter on and FUCK!! The FUCKEN' > thing doesn't fit. It seems the original filter has Mexican threads and > the Fram isn't compatible. Tried two auto parts stores and no go! An oil > filter a dealer item? FUCK YES!!! I can expect this proprietary crap > from Nikon and Canon, but Ford/Lincoln? At least with Nikon and Canon > they let you buy aftermarket batteries.
> Well, I had enough of Mexican made assembled in America pieces of shit! > FUCK Detroit and the union slobs, I'll be buying Mercedes this spring, a > GL350. Obama made a big mistake bailing out GM and Chrysler!
I thought filter threads were all the same, although I suppose US one might be imperial or something*.
Of course the tripod mount thread is 1/4" Whitworth.
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