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From: John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:12:12 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 30 2007 1:12 pm
Subject: Tough job for a small sensor
FZ8, JPEG Fine, ISO 100, 1/640 @ f/4, AP auto exp, 114 mm (35 mm equiv),
hand-held; Noise Reduction, Contrast and Sharpening set to Low; compressed to Quality 8 with Photoshop for hosting full res: <http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040091q8yu8.jpg> -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Mr. Strat" <r...@nospam.techline.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:33:41 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 30 2007 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
In article <d8suk35pqpv39j24v5s3kmk5bflqg6v...@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote: Nice burnt highlights. Glad to see that histogram is doing well for you. > FZ8, JPEG Fine, ISO 100, 1/640 @ f/4, AP auto exp, 114 mm (35 mm equiv), > hand-held; Noise Reduction, Contrast and Sharpening set to Low; > compressed to Quality 8 with Photoshop for hosting full res: > <http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040091q8yu8.jpg> You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Alfred Molon <alfred_mo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:01:58 +0100
Local: Sat, Dec 1 2007 9:01 am
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
In article <291120071833417974%...@nospam.techline.com>, Mr. Strat
says... > Nice burnt highlights. Glad to see that histogram is doing well for you. If you saw what DSLR images Roger posts to his site you would say "nice burnt shadows". -- Alfred Molon You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "David J Taylor" <david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:47 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 30 2007 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
John Navas wrote: Site seems to be down from here. > FZ8, JPEG Fine, ISO 100, 1/640 @ f/4, AP auto exp, 114 mm (35 mm > equiv), hand-held; Noise Reduction, Contrast and Sharpening set to > Low; compressed to Quality 8 with Photoshop for hosting full res: > <http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040091q8yu8.jpg> David You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: mark.thoma...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:25:04 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 30 2007 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
On Nov 30, 6:43 pm, "David J Taylor" <david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this-
bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote: Yes, it's obviously completely beyond the capability of that camera - > John Navas wrote: > > <http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040091q8yu8.jpg> > Site seems to be down from here. > David given the link doesn't work... (O: You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:29:34 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 1 2007 8:29 am
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:47 GMT, "David J Taylor"
<david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote in <73Q3j.55385$c_1.50...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>: >John Navas wrote: Not the site, but that particular server, so I've replaced the image: >> FZ8, JPEG Fine, ISO 100, 1/640 @ f/4, AP auto exp, 114 mm (35 mm >> equiv), hand-held; Noise Reduction, Contrast and Sharpening set to >> Low; compressed to Quality 8 with Photoshop for hosting full res: >> <http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040091q8yu8.jpg> >Site seems to be down from here. <http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040091q8fr5.jpg> -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "David J Taylor" <david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:43:29 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 1 2007 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
John Navas wrote: Thanks for reposting, John. > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:47 GMT, "David J Taylor" > <david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote in > <73Q3j.55385$c_1.50...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>: >> John Navas wrote: >> Site seems to be down from here. > Not the site, but that particular server, so I've replaced the image: All the detail in the foliage at the back is lost - possibly due to the Cheers, You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: mark.thoma...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 00:55:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 1 2007 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
On Dec 1, 4:43 pm, "David J Taylor" <david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this-
bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote: It is a nice *scene*, but as David notes, the foliage has lost a large > John Navas wrote: > ... > > <http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040091q8fr5.jpg> > ... > All the detail in the foliage at the back is lost - possibly due to the > noise reduction. Nice photo, though. > Cheers, amount of detail, and as Mr Strat notes, the highlights are a touch over (although that isn't a big deal).. It is not a technically good image - even at the reduced size, the That type of low-contrast fine detail is a indeed a tough test for To get better results, you could use a better camera (O:, but if that - shoot in RAW. That way you do not lose any more detail to jpeg - watch your post-proc very carefully. *Selective* noise reduction Just trying to help... In a couple of years time, assuming you get (* I'm allowed to be unkind if I put a smiley there - John said.) You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: mark.thoma...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 02:30:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 1 2007 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
On Dec 1, 6:55 pm, mark.thoma...@gmail.com wrote:
> - watch your post-proc very carefully. *Selective* noise reduction And just to show I'm not *all* mouth... here's an example of an image > can help (ie *don't* apply NR to foliage areas!), and also watch any > gamma/brightness/contrast adjustments - working in 16-bit, at least > initially, may also help. with a similarly wide (probably wider) contrast range, shot on a similar (but, imo, better) prosumer : http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/pano2_small.jpg (Note -it's a *large* panoramic image - 1.4Mb jpg...) It was shot in RAW, and I (crudely!) used selective noise reduction. I am very happy to post a full-resolution crop if anyone wants one. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:36:49 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 17 2007 2:36 am
Subject: Re: Tough job for a small sensor
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 02:30:35 -0800 (PST), mark.thoma...@gmail.com wrote
in <4cdb3884-8da8-459f-a0de-d97c67159...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>: >On Dec 1, 6:55 pm, mark.thoma...@gmail.com wrote: Totally different image, and too shrunk to make any real assessment >> - watch your post-proc very carefully. *Selective* noise reduction >> can help (ie *don't* apply NR to foliage areas!), and also watch any >> gamma/brightness/contrast adjustments - working in 16-bit, at least >> initially, may also help. >And just to show I'm not *all* mouth... here's an example of an image possible. Don't you have anything else? -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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