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newsmas...@bellsouth.net  
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From: <newsmas...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:00:00 EDT
Subject: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
offering access to the Usenet Netnews service.  If you wish to continue
reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through third-party vendors.

Distribution: AT&T SouthEast Newsgroups Servers


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Lawrence Akutagawa  
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From: "Lawrence Akutagawa" <lakuNOS...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:17:57 -0700
Local: Tues, Jun 9 2009 10:17 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

<news-supp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:1244504405.2924_151@flph199.ffdc.sbc.com...

> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.  If you wish to continue
> reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through third-party
> vendors.

> Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.

Being an AT&T customer and a reader of various newgroups, please provide
some information of such third-party vendors.  Thank you.

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Jean-David Beyer  
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From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:40:09 GMT
Local: Tues, Jun 9 2009 11:40 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down
Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
> <news-supp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1244504405.2924_151@flph199.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.  If you wish to continue
>> reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through third-party
>> vendors.

>> Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.

> Being an AT&T customer and a reader of various newgroups, please provide
> some information of such third-party vendors.  Thank you.

I do not know about AT&T, but Verizon cut off all Usenet except for the "big
8" some time ago. They did not reduce the rates to reflect the reduction in
service. I bet they did not reduce your rates to compensate for removing a
service that could be reasonably expected in a standard ISP contract.

Here is one alternate provider. I have not used them, but I may.

http://newsguy.com/overview.htm

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john joseph  
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From: john joseph <nowh...@nowhere.nl>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:44:03 -0500
Local: Tues, Jun 9 2009 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Here is one alternate provider. I have not used them, but I may.

> http://newsguy.com/overview.htm

http://www.supernews.com  is another. I use it. It is not free, but it
is reliable and fast.

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Rebecca Ore  
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From: Rebecca Ore <macogoe...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:20:16 -0400
Local: Wed, Jun 10 2009 1:20 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down
In article <d4OdnfIIUfe--rPXnZ2dnUVZ_hpi4...@supernews.com>,
 john joseph <nowh...@nowhere.nl> wrote:

> Jean-David Beyer wrote:

> > Here is one alternate provider. I have not used them, but I may.

> > http://newsguy.com/overview.htm

> http://www.supernews.com  is another. I use it. It is not free, but it
> is reliable and fast.

Supernews is now owned by Giganews.

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Frank Pittel  
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From: Frank Pittel <f...@warlock.deepthought.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:51:32 -0500
Local: Wed, Jun 10 2009 7:51 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down
Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net> wrote:
: Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
: > <news-supp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

: > news:1244504405.2924_151@flph199.ffdc.sbc.com...
: >> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
: >> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.  If you wish to continue
: >> reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through third-party
: >> vendors.
: >>
: >> Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.
: >>
: > Being an AT&T customer and a reader of various newgroups, please provide
: > some information of such third-party vendors.  Thank you.
: >
: >
: I do not know about AT&T, but Verizon cut off all Usenet except for the "big
: 8" some time ago. They did not reduce the rates to reflect the reduction in
: service. I bet they did not reduce your rates to compensate for removing a
: service that could be reasonably expected in a standard ISP contract.

: Here is one alternate provider. I have not used them, but I may.

: http://newsguy.com/overview.htm

I signed up with giganews many years ago and have been very happy with their service.
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Frank Pittel  
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From: Frank Pittel <f...@warlock.deepthought.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:52:31 -0500
Local: Wed, Jun 10 2009 7:52 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down
Rebecca Ore <macogoe...@gmail.com> wrote:

: In article <d4OdnfIIUfe--rPXnZ2dnUVZ_hpi4...@supernews.com>,
:  john joseph <nowh...@nowhere.nl> wrote:

: > Jean-David Beyer wrote:
: >
: > > Here is one alternate provider. I have not used them, but I may.
: > >
: > > http://newsguy.com/overview.htm
: >
: > http://www.supernews.com  is another. I use it. It is not free, but it
: > is reliable and fast.

: Supernews is now owned by Giganews.

I should mention that while giganews isn't free it's very cheap.
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Richard Knoppow  
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From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickb...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:44:36 -0700
Local: Wed, Jun 10 2009 11:44 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

<news-supp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:1244504405.2924_151@flph199.ffdc.sbc.com...

> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no
> longer be
> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.  If you
> wish to continue
> reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available through
> third-party
> vendors.

> Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.

     This is a troll. Note the "mismatch" in the route
trace.

--
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Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com


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Robert  
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From: "Robert" <racemaildrop-7x10gr...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:31:30 -0400
Local: Fri, Jun 12 2009 7:31 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

"Richard Knoppow" <dickb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

news:B7qdnUnaHK2GjbLXnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@earthlink.com...

Actually at&t posted this to their server only. It was even in a moderated
group.

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Jean-David Beyer  
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From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandav...@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:54:51 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 2 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

Well, Verizon is cutting off all Usenet at the end of this month.
As usual, they are not cutting their rates for this reduction in service.

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Lawrence Akutagawa  
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From: "Lawrence Akutagawa" <lakuNOS...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:38:43 -0700
Local: Thurs, Sep 3 2009 12:38 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

"Jean-David Beyer" <jeandav...@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:h7lpur017bv@news7.newsguy.com...

.
Just for the record - I am now using the services of eternal-september,
previously known - I believe - as Mozzarella.

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Richard Knoppow  
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From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickb...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:18:00 -0700
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

"Lawrence Akutagawa" <lakuNOS...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
message news:h7m01q$e8h$1@news.eternal-september.org...

    Earthlink (Netcom) some time ago farmed out Usenet to
something called Demonews. This works pretty well. Usenet
service had been awful for years on Earthlink related
companies. As far as reducing services and keeping the rates
the same its just another way for business to cheat its
customers.

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dickb...@ix.netcom.com


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Richard Fateman  
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From: Richard Fateman <fate...@cs.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:07:46 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 8 2009 8:07 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down
I'm using aioe.org    for reading and posting    nttp.aioe.org

It's free, but it doesn't keep the messages around for a really long time.

Good to see people (the same ones!) are still listening in. My darkroom
isn't getting nearly as much use as my computer!

RJF


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Richard Knoppow  
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From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickb...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:34:23 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 8 2009 10:34 am
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

"Richard Fateman" <fate...@cs.berkeley.edu> wrote in message

news:4AA58432.9020409@cs.berkeley.edu...

> I'm using aioe.org    for reading and posting
> nttp.aioe.org

> It's free, but it doesn't keep the messages around for a
> really long time.

> Good to see people (the same ones!) are still listening
> in. My darkroom
> isn't getting nearly as much use as my computer!

> RJF

      Well a few of us are still around. I ansered your
e-mail.
      I was wrong big time about the message from AT&T being
a troll. A lot of former news group people have gone over to
web based forums of various sorts. That may have some
advantages and I am a member of several but I still like
Usnet best.

--
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Lawrence Akutagawa  
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From: "Lawrence Akutagawa" <lakuNOS...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:53:17 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 8 2009 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down

"Richard Fateman" <fate...@cs.berkeley.edu> wrote in message

news:4AA58432.9020409@cs.berkeley.edu...
> I'm using aioe.org    for reading and posting    nttp.aioe.org

> It's free, but it doesn't keep the messages around for a really long time.

> Good to see people (the same ones!) are still listening in. My darkroom
> isn't getting nearly as much use as my computer!

I'm using eternal-september with no problems at all.

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From: YD <ydtech...@techie.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:02:22 -0300
Local: Wed, Sep 9 2009 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T Usenet Netnews Service Shutting Down
Late at night, by candle light, "Richard Knoppow"
<dickb...@ix.netcom.com> penned this immortal opus:

I'm using Forté's usenet service
(http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php), and have no complaints. At
2.95 for 12 gigs/mo it's a steal.

- YD.
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