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OT: Bob Herbert on Michael Jackson
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From: Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: Bob Herbert on Michael Jackson
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:23:32 -0700 (PDT)
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On Jul 4, 10:11=A0am, F Parella <f_pare...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 10:40=A0am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Interesting OP ED in the NY Times:
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> > Op-Ed Columnist
> > Behind the Facade
> > By BOB HERBERT
> > Meeting Michael Jackson in the mid-1980s was one of the creepier
> > experiences of my life. I was an editor at The Daily News and had to
> > present him with an award in a large room with just a handful of
> > onlookers and a photographer at Madison Square Garden.
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> > I wasn=92t put off by the fact that Jackson, then in his mid-20s,
> > couldn=92t make small talk. Lots of people have trouble with that. Ther=
e
> > was something about his overall behavior that weirded me out. He
> > seemed, even then, to be a person who was trying with all of his being
> > to step outside of reality and leave it behind.
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> > Emmanuel Lewis, the child star of the hit TV series =93Webster,=94 was
> > with Jackson that evening. The undersized Lewis was probably 13 at the
> > time, but he looked much younger, maybe 7 or 8.
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> > Jackson seemed to relate only to Lewis. He made faces at the tiny boy
> > and giggled as Lewis hopped around and climbed over furniture, much to
> > Jackson=92s delight. I remember thinking as I left the Garden that
> > Jackson had treated Lewis almost as a pet.
>
> > I=92ve never heard any suggestion of anything improper about the
> > relationship between Jackson and Lewis. But what I wish I had thought
> > more about in those long-ago days of Michael-mania was the era of
> > extreme immaturity and grotesque irresponsibility that was already
> > well under way in America. The craziness played out on a shockingly
> > broad front and Jackson=92s life, among many others, would prove to be =
a
> > shining and ultimately tragic example. . . . . . . . . . .
>
> > Motown was the label that gave us the Jackson 5. But when Michael and
> > his brothers released their first album in 1969, the label had already
> > reached its creative peak and most of the best work =97 the stunning
> > originality of the Miracles, the Marvelettes, Mary Wells, Martha and
> > the Vandellas, the Supremes, the Temptations, and others =97 had been
> > done. Hip-hop would soon appear, and then the violence and misogyny of
> > gangsta rap.
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> > All kinds of restraints were coming off. It was almost as if the
> > adults had gone into hiding. The deregulation that we were told would
> > be great for the economy was being applied to the culture as a whole.
> > Women could be treated as sex objects again as misogyny, hardly
> > limited to hip-hop, went mainstream. (Have you looked at network
> > television lately, or listened to the radio?) Astonishing numbers of
> > men abandoned their children with impunity. Most of the nation seemed
> > fine with the idea of going to war without a draft and without raising
> > taxes.
>
> > In many ways we descended as a society into a fantasyland, trying to
> > leave the limits and consequences and obligations of the real world
> > behind. Politicians stopped talking about the poor. We built up
> > staggering amounts of debt and called it an economic boom. We shipped
> > jobs overseas by the millions without ever thinking seriously about
> > how to replace them. We let New Orleans drown.
>
> > Jackson was the perfect star for the era, the embodiment of fantasy
> > gone wild. He tried to carve himself up into another person, but, of
> > course, there was the same Michael Jackson underneath =97 talented but
> > psychologically disabled to the point where he was a danger to himself
> > and others.
>
> > Reality is unforgiving. There is no escape. Behind the Jackson facade
> > was the horror of child abuse. Court records and reams of well-
> > documented media accounts contain a stream of serious allegations of
> > child sex abuse and other inappropriate behavior with very young boys.
> > Jackson, a multimillionaire megastar, was excused as an eccentric.
> > Small children were delivered into his company, to spend the night in
> > his bed, often by their parents.
>
> > One case of alleged pedophilia against Jackson, the details of which
> > would make your hair stand on end, was settled for a reported $25
> > million. He beat another case in court.
>
> > The Michael-mania that has erupted since Jackson=92s death =97 not just=
an
> > appreciation of his music, but a giddy celebration of his life =97 is
> > yet another spasm of the culture opting for fantasy over reality. We
> > don=92t want to look under the rock that was Jackson=92s real life.
>
> > As with so many other things, we don=92t want to know.
>
> That's the best article on Jackson I've read since his death. =A0I'm
> incredibly bored with puff pieces, claims about Jacko's supposed
> "musical genius," and with credulous idiots who buy his "Peter Pan"
> facade at face value. =A0Thanks, Fatt!- Hide quoted text -
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As a Jackson fan, I am saddened by his death, and frankly, I do enjoy
the puff pieces. They are comforting at this difficult time.
However, I must admit that the aboved op/ed piece struck me as
objective, realistic and honest.
MJ was very talented and a wonderful entertainer, but beneath that
surgically altered appearance, there was a very dark side. I think he
was a tormented, suffering soul.
Herbert's comments about Emmanuel Lewis are both shocking and
honest . . . . Jackson seemed to be very entertained by Lewis,
treating him "almost as a pet."
I don't claim that Jackson engaged in any sexual impropriety, but
there is something very wrong when a grown man does not relate much to
other adults and has such a fascination with children.
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