They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself, so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
On Nov 7, 8:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> wrote:
> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I > thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands > did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was > a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two > drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself, > so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I > should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two > drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
> Frank
Very good drummer indeed. Tommy Chong's former brother-in-law.
On 07 Nov 2009, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> wrote in rec.music.beatles:
> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite > their popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear > and I thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the > 70's bands did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer > was a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like > two drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician > myself, so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen > to Sneed, I should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he > sounds like two drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool > sound to me.
Floyd Sneed is a GREAT drummer, IMO. Great sound, super funky. The whole Three Dog Night band was an excellent rock band in the early days. I own or have owned their first few records, and always admired the band even more than the singers.
> On Nov 7, 8:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> > wrote:
> > They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > > popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I > > thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands > > did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> > So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was > > a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two > > drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself, > > so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I > > should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two > > drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
> > Frank
> Very good drummer indeed. > Tommy Chong's former brother-in-law.
On Nov 7, 7:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> wrote:
> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > popularity in the early 70's.
I wonder if they got their name from "A hard day's night"?
How bout "Three Cat night"? No, dog sounds better. :-)
<yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On Nov 7, 7:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> >wrote: >> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies >> radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their >> popularity in the early 70's.
>I wonder if they got their name from "A hard day's night"?
The now-famous name came from a story about Australian aborigines who, on cold nights in the outback, sleep with their dogs for warmth. The coldest evenings are known as "three dog nights".
On Nov 7, 8:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> wrote:
> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I > thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands > did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was > a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two > drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself, > so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I > should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two > drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
> Frank
Wait a minute - didn't Bernard "Pretty" Purdie claim to have secretly overdubbed drums on Shambala?
> On Nov 7, 8:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> > wrote:
> > They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > > popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I > > thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands > > did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> > So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was > > a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two > > drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself, > > so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I > > should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two > > drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
> > Frank
> Wait a minute - didn't Bernard "Pretty" Purdie claim to have secretly > overdubbed drums on Shambala?
Darn, the famous Beatle dubber, Bernard Purdy, he musta dubbed the Three Dog Night stuff.
> On Nov 7, 8:56 pm, BLACKPOOLJIMMY <Chippandf...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 8:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> > > wrote:
> > > They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > > > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > > > popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I > > > thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands > > > did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> > > So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was > > > a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two > > > drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself, > > > so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I > > > should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two > > > drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
> > > Frank
> > Very good drummer indeed. > > Tommy Chong's former brother-in-law.
> <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >On Nov 7, 7:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> > >wrote: > >> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > >> radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > >> popularity in the early 70's.
> >I wonder if they got their name from "A hard day's night"?
> The now-famous name came from a story about Australian aborigines who, > on cold nights in the outback, sleep with their dogs for warmth. The > coldest evenings are known as "three dog nights".
On Nov 7, 9:41 pm, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:35:34 -0800 (PST), "who?"
> <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >On Nov 7, 7:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> > >wrote: > >> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > >> radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their > >> popularity in the early 70's.
> >I wonder if they got their name from "A hard day's night"?
> The now-famous name came from a story about Australian aborigines who, > on cold nights in the outback, sleep with their dogs for warmth. The > coldest evenings are known as "three dog nights".
I heard a story about the Eskimos, that on coldest nights they would sleep with the sled-dogs, hence the term "Three Dog Night".
A ghost beat is a lighter tap on a drum that's barely audible, they tend to make the drum lines seem a little thicker and more sophisticated. It might sound kind of like an echo.
On 09 Nov 2009, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in rec.music.beatles:
> Which one of them died? Wasn't it the bass player?
Yes - it was Felix Pappalardi, the bass player and singer. Shot dead by his wife in the early '80s.
The group that tours as "Mountain" now is Leslie West, drummer Corky Laing, and a replaceable bassist. Leslie is in poor health - diabetes, and he had bladder cancer. They still sound good, so I hear.
On Nov 8, 4:06 pm, iarwain <iarwai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I do not know what a ghost beat is
> A ghost beat is a lighter tap on a drum that's barely audible, they > tend to make the drum lines seem a little thicker and more > sophisticated. It might sound kind of like an echo.
On Nov 9, 12:48 am, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 09 Nov 2009, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in > rec.music.beatles:
> > Which one of them died? Wasn't it the bass player?
> Yes - it was Felix Pappalardi, the bass player and singer. Shot dead by > his wife in the early '80s.
> The group that tours as "Mountain" now is Leslie West, drummer Corky > Laing, and a replaceable bassist. Leslie is in poor health - diabetes, > and he had bladder cancer. They still sound good, so I hear.
I still remember Leslie, in the early 70's bragging that he was better than Clapton, but I don't know if any quotes are available. I might have just heard it from a friend.
> On 07 Nov 2009, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> wrote > in rec.music.beatles:
> > They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies > > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite > > their popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear > > and I thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the > > 70's bands did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> > So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer > > was a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like > > two drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician > > myself, so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen > > to Sneed, I should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he > > sounds like two drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool > > sound to me.
> Floyd Sneed is a GREAT drummer, IMO. Great sound, super funky. The > whole Three Dog Night band was an excellent rock band in the early > days. I own or have owned their first few records, and always admired > the band even more than the singers.
I saw them live, twic in the mid-90's, both at free summer outdoor shows one at the beach the other at a park, they sounded absolutey fantastic, really entertaining performance,so many classic tunes, the musicians seemed to be as much a part of the group as the three front "dogs," and they really exuded that great old time hippy vibe (it wasn't like they used faceless young musicians to back them up, these guys were the real thing!). I remember just thinking how weird it was to see these guys who were I think probably the most successful touring band in the U.S. in the early 70's band heyday, I mean they were huge, and you'd be very hard-pressed to think of a group with more hits (and unlike many, almost all of their hits live on on oldies radio, it hasn't been whttled down to just one or two that you still hear) and here they are playing for free on a Sunday afternoon (I mean, free to us, obviously I'm sure they got paid well but still)
On 09 Nov 2009, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in rec.music.beatles:
> I still remember Leslie, in the early 70's bragging that he was > better than Clapton, but I don't know if any quotes are > available. I might have just heard it from a friend.
I guess Leslie can be cocky, but I've heard him heap praise on Clapton, and crediting him with being his main influence. And it's true that Mountain was almost a copy of Cream, even using the same producer (Mountain's own bassist Pappalardi), and them recording one of Jack Bruce's songs, "Theme from an Imaginary Western", and Pappalardi playing like Jack Bruce and singing like Eric Clapton. And then, to make the connection even more explicit, after Mountain broke up Leslie West's next group was West, Bruce, and Laing, with Cream's former bassist.
So, I never heard West claim to be better than Clapton, but it's very obvious that he tried to play like him. I can hear some strong resemblance, especially his melodic lines and vibrato. Leslie had his own unique sound, but it was obviously modeled on Clapton's thick tone. I love both of those guys, and they're two of MY own main early influences.
> richforman <rforma...@msn.com> wrote: > > I saw them live, twice in the mid-90's, both at free summer outdoor > > shows one at the beach the other at a park, they sounded absolutey > > fantastic, really entertaining performance,so many classic tunes, the > > musicians seemed to be as much a part of the group as the three front > > "dogs," and they really exuded that great old time hippy vibe (it > > wasn't like they used faceless young musicians to back them up, these > > guys were the real thing!). I remember just thinking how weird it was > > to see these guys who were I think probably the most successful > > touring band in the U.S. in the early 70's band heyday, I mean they > > were huge, and you'd be very hard-pressed to think of a group with > > more hits (and unlike many, almost all of their hits live on on oldies > > radio, it hasn't been whttled down to just one or two that you still > > hear) and here they are playing for free on a Sunday afternoon (I > > mean, free to us, obviously I'm sure they got paid well but still)
> Three Dog Night is a strange act to ponder today. They're one of those > old acts (Grand Funk Railroad, John Denver, the Osmonds...) who was > huge, huge, huge for a good stretch in their day and yet somehow have > pretty much fallen off the historical map with time. I suspect a lot of > people know their hits by ear without necessarily remembering who sang > them. And who remembers their original albums anymore? Did they only > release greatest-hit records? ;)
> What made this group so huge? It certainly wasn't their songwriting. I > don't think their vocal prowess was enough on its own. Maybe they > occupied an unusual, profitable niche in that they were basically a > pop-vocal act who passed themselves off as an integrated "rock band" > much better than the norm. Or maybe their producer or A&R guy just had > sharp taste in choosing outside songs for them. Dunno. TDN is just > ambient radio music to me, easily ignored, but I guess the group > deserves credit for *something*....
You ask a pretty good question. I sure wasn't taken by them. But I did like "One" which, I think, was there first big hit.
Jeremiah was a Bullfrog sure didn't hurt their reputation with a lot of folks.
And "Mama Told Me Not to Come" was in the realm of the hipster wiseguy also.
Neilson, Axton and Newman. They did have a good A&R guy.
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