I've just finished hearing the mono version of PW, and I'm really surprised at how good it sounds... But I can't understand why there are such big differences on the delay/echo effects applied (mono vs. stereo), specially the noticeable echo on the vocals at 1:36... why do they differ so much?
On Nov 5, 5:20 am, Jales <jales...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've just finished hearing the mono version of PW, and I'm really > surprised at how good it sounds... But I can't understand why there > are such big differences on the delay/echo effects applied (mono vs. > stereo), specially the noticeable echo on the vocals at 1:36... why do > they differ so much?
I think it goes like this...
As a single-only release, it was just mixed for mono in 1966. It wasn't until the release of the 'Hey Jude' album in 1970 that a stereo version was needed, so it was among the 10 or so songs that had to then be remixed for stereo. I'd hazard a guess and say that either (a) the echo/delay technology had changed in the intervening years, or (b) it was difficult to reproduce exactly the same effect in stereo (and/ or post-recording), or possibly more likely (c) it was a hurried exercise instigated by Allen Klein and Capitol, and close enough was good enough.
Growing up in the 70s, my first (and for a number of years, only) exposure to the song was on the 'Hey Jude' album. When I eventually heard the single version on CD in the late 80s, my first reaction was "what's wrong with the echo?".
> On Nov 5, 5:20 am, Jales <jales...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I've just finished hearing the mono version of PW, and I'm really > > surprised at how good it sounds... But I can't understand why there > > are such big differences on the delay/echo effects applied (mono vs. > > stereo), specially the noticeable echo on the vocals at 1:36... why do > > they differ so much?
> I think it goes like this...
> As a single-only release, it was just mixed for mono in 1966. It > wasn't until the release of the 'Hey Jude' album in 1970 that a stereo > version was needed, so it was among the 10 or so songs that had to > then be remixed for stereo. I'd hazard a guess and say that either (a) > the echo/delay technology had changed in the intervening years, or (b) > it was difficult to reproduce exactly the same effect in stereo (and/ > or post-recording), or possibly more likely (c) it was a hurried > exercise instigated by Allen Klein and Capitol, and close enough was > good enough.
> Growing up in the 70s, my first (and for a number of years, only) > exposure to the song was on the 'Hey Jude' album. When I eventually > heard the single version on CD in the late 80s, my first reaction was > "what's wrong with the echo?".
I should have known better (!) than to reply to this without checking Lewisohn first...
It was remixed for stereo on Oct 31, 1966 for inclusion on the stereo version of the 'Oldies' album. It must have caused some problems, as three hours were set aside to do Paperback Writer, I Want To Hold Your Hand, and She Loves You, but it took two hours to do PW alone. One could infer that there was something about the way they did the original recording that made reproducing the effects in stereo and/or at a later date difficult.
troglodog wrote: > On Nov 5, 10:03 am, troglodog <troglo...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Nov 5, 5:20 am, Jales <jales...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've just finished hearing the mono version of PW, and I'm really >>> surprised at how good it sounds... But I can't understand why there >>> are such big differences on the delay/echo effects applied (mono vs. >>> stereo), specially the noticeable echo on the vocals at 1:36... why do >>> they differ so much? >> I think it goes like this...
>> As a single-only release, it was just mixed for mono in 1966. It >> wasn't until the release of the 'Hey Jude' album in 1970 that a stereo >> version was needed, so it was among the 10 or so songs that had to >> then be remixed for stereo. I'd hazard a guess and say that either (a) >> the echo/delay technology had changed in the intervening years, or (b) >> it was difficult to reproduce exactly the same effect in stereo (and/ >> or post-recording), or possibly more likely (c) it was a hurried >> exercise instigated by Allen Klein and Capitol, and close enough was >> good enough.
>> Growing up in the 70s, my first (and for a number of years, only) >> exposure to the song was on the 'Hey Jude' album. When I eventually >> heard the single version on CD in the late 80s, my first reaction was >> "what's wrong with the echo?".
> I should have known better (!) than to reply to this without checking > Lewisohn first...
> It was remixed for stereo on Oct 31, 1966 for inclusion on the stereo > version of the 'Oldies' album. It must have caused some problems, as > three hours were set aside to do Paperback Writer, I Want To Hold Your > Hand, and She Loves You, but it took two hours to do PW alone. One > could infer that there was something about the way they did the > original recording that made reproducing the effects in stereo and/or > at a later date difficult.
> Anyone?
I have the Oldies But Goodies album on cassette somewhere, I better go check it if they did She Loves You in stereo on it.
I can't quite recall what you mean without listening to them again. I noticed that the mono PW seemed to lack enough bass, but that may have been because I played it next to the adjacent albums instead of on Past Masters.
> I have the Oldies But Goodies album on cassette somewhere, I better go > check it if they did She Loves You in stereo on it.
She Loves You has never been released in true stereo, and never will be since the original multi-track master tapes were destroyed after the first mono mix was done.
On 4 nov, 20:03, troglodog <troglo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Growing up in the 70s, my first (and for a number of years, only) > exposure to the song was on the 'Hey Jude' album. When I eventually > heard the single version on CD in the late 80s, my first reaction was > "what's wrong with the echo?".
Thanks for your answer... My reaction upon hearing it for the first time was the same as yours (I was used to the stereo version). Anyway, I now prefer the mono mix
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