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Re: monster outside of maze?

2009-11-30T20:16:06Z

I've seen it happen on no-phase levels.

Re: [S] Advice for first Ascension Run? [Spoilers]

2009-11-30T17:52:50Z

ehle wrote:
Save one of the wishes for a rubber chicken if you get in trouble
on Astral. If you run out of power for magic missile (and you quite
possibly will if carrying the amulet), magicbane is a poor melee
choice (although its other properties make up for that).
If you see Rodney, use a finger of death immediately. You'll spend

Re: monk getting ready to run.

2009-11-30T16:13:57Z

Have you tried dropping a scroll of scare monster when you got swarmed
on the Plane of Air?

[Spork]Re: U an umber hulk (shambling horror) [seen: telepathy]

2009-11-30T15:25:59Z

And it can't be genoed!
Lovely.
I wonder if these can be trained to grab the amulet and go sit in an
undigable corner of the map for the rest of the game.
-HJC

Re: Advice for first Ascension Run? [Spoilers]

2009-11-30T14:49:27Z

To be more exact, all weapons can safely be enchanted as long as they are
not over +5 before enchanting.
A blessed scroll may enchant a +5 weapon to +7, but if you have a +6
weapon, it's no longer safe to enchant it.

Re: YAAP - comptril - lawful-human-monk

2009-11-30T14:13:56Z

Quoting Jistan Idiot <jistanid...@gmail.com>:
You were telepathic, and had a towel!
You might have had an easier run of it if you were very fast.

Re: YASD on the vibrating square level

2009-11-30T14:15:37Z

Quoting G-Mon <gmon5...@invalid.invalid>:
Also, bigods, wear an AoLS (and wish for one at the Castle if you don't
have one) until you've got enough experience to not need to.

Re: monk getting ready to run.

2009-11-30T14:09:32Z

Quoting Jistan Idiot <jistanid...@gmail.com>:
A mistake. Sure, you don't want to be carrying the lot around, but one
quaffed in advance is worth 8 MaxHP. One quaffed in a crisis is worth 8
MaxHP and all your HP back (and a cure sickness to boot).

Re: Wizard on Astral Plane

2009-11-30T14:04:45Z

Quoting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanag...@hotmail.com> :
I think it is only that he cannot reappear there.

Re: monk getting ready to run.

2009-11-30T14:06:26Z

Quoting Kerio <keri...@gmail.com>:
But the message spam is agonising.

hot

2009-11-30T11:27:04Z

kiss pics
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Re: For the Knight who has everything, what good is gold?

2009-11-30T07:13:20Z

In article <d1322c00-f004-42ca-8880-
b13419fcc...@p35g2000yqh.googl egroups.com>, chillyn...@yahoo.com
says...
Huh, are those cumulative and not max 999 turns?
YLSNEDYPNH
Eskimo

Re: Advice for first Ascension Run? [Spoilers]

2009-11-30T03:21:06Z

6bf3-43c8-a4c6-b67e47c98...@f1 6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
All weapons, elven daggers included, can be safely enchanted to +7.

Re: NAO Spork

2009-11-30T02:44:52Z

With all those other stores it indeed looked like minetown.
Overrun by orcs? Barricades? Well, since I don't know about
those details in the Spork variant I've got just some faint
idea. Thanks anyway :-)
(Ah, BTW, it's not my game, I've just seen that map on NAO.)
Janis

Re: NAO Spork

2009-11-30T02:28:20Z

This is incorrect; this room does not come from the Orctown level.

Re: NAO Spork

2009-11-30T02:16:00Z

On Nov 29, 1:37 pm, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanag...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Actually you reached Minetown when it's been overrun by orcs. Those
are barricades. HTH

Re: NAO Spork

2009-11-30T01:03:07Z

Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanag...@hotmail.com> wrote in
I've seen that room several times in spork. It's in one of the minetown
layouts. You have to go there to know why.
I'm not going to ruin the game for you by telling you any more.

Re: NAO Spork

2009-11-29T21:29:52Z

It's not a shop.
It makes more sense when you know what's inside.

NAO Spork

2009-11-29T18:37:47Z

At NAO I saw, in a Spork game, this part of a minetown map...
)...........
...#+###-...
..#....|...
-..#...=|...
...#....|...
...------...
.{........{.
I am uncertain why there are the iron bars as wall replacements for a
room that appears to be a shop. With just one item it's hard to tell

Re: {UHNH]bug?

2009-11-29T17:59:20Z

Patric Mueller <bh...@bigfoot.com> écrivait
Yes, I never been too much worried about it. The rare times I encountered
such in vanilla, it did not cause too much trouble.
Thanks.

Re: hearse

2009-11-29T17:39:20Z

From [link]
Q. What versions of Nethack does it support?
A. Official versions:
[...]
Unofficial versions, variants, and other roguelikes:
* UnNetHack 3.5.1
Regards airmack

Re: Advice for first Ascension Run? [Spoilers]

2009-11-29T15:34:43Z

One more question -- you can enchant elven armor to +7, can you
enchant elven daggers to +7 (in Slashem).
Thanks!

hearse

2009-11-29T15:24:12Z

Howdy,
Does hearse accomodate UnNetHack or is there a hearse client for that
particular fork?

Re: Advice for first Ascension Run? [Spoilers]

2009-11-29T06:22:33Z

Thank you all for the advice!
A clarification - either the google groups client or the list server
stripped the [S] from the beginning of my subject line which may have
made it unclear that this is SLASH'EM, not real nethack. Wallet of
Perseus is the Artifact Bag of holding in slashem. Deva's are slashem

Re: monster outside of maze?

2009-11-29T02:57:01Z

Thank you.

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-28T23:01:10Z

On Nov 27, 1:20 pm, Derek Ray <de...@moot.its.only.a.spamtra p.org>
wrote:
You left off the "engine" ...
d) Use polymorph wth polymorph control and select your original race
when prompted. You will "feel like a new orc" and your hunger status
will be reset.

Re: monster outside of maze?

2009-11-28T22:14:38Z

My guess would be that it is a chameleon. It probably turned into an
X or something that can walk through the dirt and then turned into the
O that you now see.

monster outside of maze?

2009-11-28T21:29:31Z

Has anybody ever seen this?
[link]
Seen with amulet of esp.

Re: YAFAP

2009-11-28T19:13:15Z

???
Why not just use a single wish to wish for two or three scrolls of gold
detection, then write some more (as many you need) with a magic marker?
A tourist is a very hard class to play; certainly one of the hardest,
probably the hardest. Without your many wishes I'm sure the game would
have evolved very differently. Any class that gets so many wishes will

YAFAP

2009-11-28T18:54:18Z

Almost two years after nearly ascending a Valkyrie, I decided to try
something a bit different - ascending a Tourist.
Unfortunately, I couldn't play on alt.org due to a horrid college
internet connection, so I couldn't copy-paste all the text. This
screenshot will have to do: [link]

Re: {UHNH]bug?

2009-11-28T11:57:22Z

In vanilla only if DEBUG is defined. Which it isn't normally and then
rn2 just crashes if you call rn2(0). :(
The code already does an return(0) in that case, but the
warning-message suggests that the game is in a more broken state than
it really is.
Bye
Patric

Re: {UHNH]bug?

2009-11-28T12:01:52Z

Which NetHack code uses a real Database? Must be an interesting
parallel universe you're living in.
How can you guess that from the message alone? 7aboir didn't mention
it, but he could play on without a problem.
UnNetHack is of course way better than NetHack and SlashEm. It already
is at version 3.5.1 whereas NetHack still rests at 3.4.3 and SlashEm

Re: {UHNH]bug?

2009-11-28T11:54:21Z

As you noticed this isn't a bug of big severity. That's the reason why
it's not yet fixed.
Thanks for youxr mentioning it. That reminded me to replace a lot of
those calls with a simpler warning function.
The standard way in vanilla to inform the player that something went
wrong is sounds most of the time way more alarming than it should be.

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-28T11:05:07Z

Derek Ray posted:
As you know - that is to say, for anyone else who missed it (I'm
deliberately evoking the trope here) -
Message-ID: slrnfqoi56.7th.noble@sdf.lones tar.org
[link]
(also mentioned on Wikihack's notable ascensions page)

Re: For the Knight who has everything, what good is gold?

2009-11-28T09:49:25Z

Ixoth's a dweeb. MR, FR or reflection, Excalibur, job's a good'un.

Re: {UHNH]bug?

2009-11-28T00:09:48Z

somebody dumped a variable into the argument to rn2 and didn't check to
make sure it was nonzero.
(actually, not necessarily rn2, it does the same for rnd and rnl and one
of the arguments to rn1.)
You should be able to change the call to impossible() to a return (1),
but that's hackish and might do the wrong thing.

Re: {UHNH]bug?

2009-11-27T23:56:17Z

7aboir <7ab...@lebarducoin.fr> wrote in
Database corruption at the least. It's a bug. And *not* just a "oh, I can
beat it this way bug" a classic "program doesn't properly run bug". Is
Unnethack up to version 1.0 yet? shouldn't be with this happening.
Alternatively slash'em *should* be IMHO.

Re: quest artifact generation?

2009-11-27T23:39:15Z

thanks a lot, now I know it's that bit safer to wish for an artifact
at the Castle before doing the quest! 3 artifacts already exist in the
game though, so might take a couple of tries...
Cheers,
Joe

Re: quest artifact generation?

2009-11-27T23:18:54Z

It's when the level containing the artifact is generated. nethack is too
lazy to pregenerate fixed levels.

quest artifact generation?

2009-11-27T22:00:13Z

Hi everyone,
Well my latest Wizard is currently heading down to the Castle, and has
just reached the level with the Quest portal on. I am planning to wish
for the Staff of Aesculapius if no more artifacts get generated in the
meantime, and this made me think of this question:
At what point does the Quest artifact, in this case the Eye of the

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-27T21:20:30Z

a) Start with a ring of slow digestion and ascend in 20k turns
b) Use amulets of life saving to die and reset your hunger status
c) Drink fruit juice and from fountains
Any combination of the above, though c) is really hard to manage without
a horn of plenty and a PYEC.

{UHNH]bug?

2009-11-27T21:10:58Z

By the way, third attemp to unnetack.
Program in disorder; you probably should S)ave and restart the process.
rn2(0) attempted...
...while reaching top of the new town branch.
T:~9507
not that it is specific UNHN bug, but, just to say.

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-27T21:04:15Z

I've always wondered how do you do foodless if you cannot eat, change
form, or pray?

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-27T17:38:19Z

Foodless is more difficult though if you can not eat, change form, or
pray. Although potions can help sustain, there is only a single way
to reset the food clock and intrinsics are even harder to acquire.

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-27T16:54:00Z

This, yes. Got my conducteers confused; sorry bout that. :)
Yep. Still indicates to me that there is a different factor at work
here; in other words, bad luck is having a more negative effect on you
than it normally would.
Player skill is effectively a constant in this case; it's just that with
so fewer tools to work with, even small instances of bad luck can end up

Re: For the Knight who has everything, what good is gold?

2009-11-27T14:18:46Z

[...]
What?? Master Kaen eats Ixoths at breakfeast.
Just engrave the E-word.
solidsnail

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-27T14:15:01Z

[...]
[...]
I recently (couple of months?) did a 10 conduct monk which took me
about 60 tries. Maybe Derek was refering to that game and got mistaken
on the accounts (if so I feel flattered).
In any case, this devnull tournament I did the exact same conducts in
27 tries, with no pudding farm.
I agree that this is an extreme case that I can't pull off with a

Re: Latest Updates

2009-11-27T13:19:43Z

I think some conducts are really unimpressive if the player completely
bypasses all the challenge the conduct is supposed to have. For
example, starting the game with a ring of slow digestion makes the
foodless conduct really unimpressive. Yes, it can be a bit
inconvenient that foodless players can't get intrinsics through eating

Re: For the Knight who has everything, what good is gold?

2009-11-27T13:09:23Z

Some people use the gold to buy A LOT of Clairvoyance from the Valley-
of-the-dead priest, so that it's faster to map Gehennom.

Re: Applications for a drum of earthquake?

2009-11-27T13:03:16Z

Is there a risk that the drum might create a pit underneath a monster,
which might cause the monster to fall to its death, which might break
pacifist conduct?