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  <title type="text">rec.games.roguelike.nethack Google Group</title>
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  The computer game Nethack.
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  <updated>2008-09-06T16:00:15Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Derek Ray</name>
  <email>de...@moot.its.only.a.spamtrap.org</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-06T16:00:15Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: on Life Saving</title>
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  If you can&#39;t kill something on the Planes faster than that, you&#39;re going &lt;br&gt; to die anyway to the next thing. &lt;br&gt; You mean Elbereth-respecting ants, right? Just sayin&#39;. &lt;br&gt; Also, that early in the game, the world is different; I&#39;m highly &lt;br&gt; unlikely to have more than one amulet, in which case the debate about &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;which is better&amp;quot; is meaningless; I&#39;m putting on whatever I have.
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  <author>
  <name>Derek Ray</name>
  <email>de...@moot.its.only.a.spamtrap.org</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-06T15:56:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/730fb1b584dfc1dd/2a62af71a232b7be?show_docid=2a62af71a232b7be</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: on Life Saving</title>
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  The counterpoint is accurate. If you are playing poorly enough to lose &lt;br&gt; 300HP (with the corresponding AC that normally comes with screwing &lt;br&gt; around long enough to gain 300HP), then you are going to lose the other &lt;br&gt; 300HP anyway. Poor play can ruin any advantage. &lt;br&gt; Plus, a potion of full healing will also give you an extra 300HP, as
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  <author>
  <name>s · reservoir</name>
  <email>sreserv...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-06T15:17:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/730fb1b584dfc1dd/d5973f4c06e1027a?show_docid=d5973f4c06e1027a</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: on Life Saving</title>
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  I prefer ESP to know where ants are first. However, if I can get one of &lt;br&gt; the artifacts that grant telepathy, or a helm of telepathy with no helm &lt;br&gt; of brilliance around and a source of reflection (SDSM, usually), I will &lt;br&gt; use life saving, simply because it helps against YASD.
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  <author>
  <name>Jym</name>
  <email>jean-yves.moyen+n...@ens-lyon.org</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-06T10:57:07Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: on Life Saving</title>
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  On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:44:00 +0200, jaytr...@googlemail.com &lt;br&gt; Except, of course, if while it takes 300HP off you you managed to take &lt;br&gt; some of its HP and the 300HP more are enough to kill it before it kills &lt;br&gt; you... &lt;br&gt; Typically, against a mob of ants (early enough), the &amp;quot;oLS is pretty good &lt;br&gt; because by the time they kill you, you should be able to at least kill a
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  <author>
  <name>Jared</name>
  <email>martin.ja...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-06T02:22:16Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">YASD - Kinda stumped, Val Hum Fem Law Eydis</title>
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  Eydis spent her time living mostly in a vacuum; after exploring the &lt;br&gt; entire dwarven mines, sokoban, and down to DL12, first of all I didn&#39;t &lt;br&gt; find an altar other than the cross align in minetown until dl8 (below &lt;br&gt; sokoban, in other words after I already had both the BoH and the &lt;br&gt; luckstone). I also didn&#39;t find more than a single scroll of identify
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  <name>jaytrgrn@googlemail.com</name>
  <email>jaytr...@googlemail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-05T22:44:00Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: on Life Saving</title>
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  If my character has, say, 300HP, an &amp;quot;oLS provides an extra 300HP. (OK, &lt;br&gt; sort of). &lt;br&gt; If I ask myself which is more useful, ESP or an extra 300HP, I&#39;ll tend &lt;br&gt; to &lt;br&gt; choose the latter; I find it hard to judge exactly how much damage I &lt;br&gt; can take in the endgame. &lt;br&gt; The counterpoint is that anything which takes 300HP off me on the
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  <author>
  <name>eue</name>
  <email>martinho.fernan...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-05T22:34:53Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: My first ascension</title>
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  You mean you can write scrolls without having seen them before? Great! &lt;br&gt; - &lt;br&gt; Oh, and here&#39;s the end game information... &lt;br&gt; Liessa, lawful female human Valkyrie &lt;br&gt; A --- &lt;br&gt; A A . &lt;br&gt; --------------- a D .@ a &lt;br&gt; |..$..........| T _@
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  <author>
  <name>JStitch</name>
  <email>jsti...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-05T22:04:50Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">YASD: Jstitch-Ran-Mal-Elf-Cha</title>
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  Hello all! &lt;br&gt; Even though I didn&#39;t get that far, the game was promising... &lt;br&gt; This game I felt I was being very lucky... found two spellbooks, one &lt;br&gt; of identify (was just wating for the Xp to increase so I can use it), &lt;br&gt; Found cloak of invisibility, which rocked a lot! So many monsters &lt;br&gt; didn&#39;t got what hit them ;), and also an oilskin cloak, which I kept
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  <author>
  <name>s · reservoir</name>
  <email>sreserv...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-05T21:33:44Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: YASD: Aiara-Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu</title>
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  In wizmode, used 29 charges before the archon got disintegrated &lt;br&gt; by a summoned black dragon &lt;br&gt; Polypiling is a much easier route than finding a marker if you &lt;br&gt; already have the wand.
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  <author>
  <email>lotsofp...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-05T18:45:13Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/0f37d7da3e77d031/9fb523195f3b6f87?show_docid=9fb523195f3b6f87"/>
  <title type="text">Re: My first ascension</title>
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  Sorry, I didn&#39;t mean to slight your ascension. Congratulations! I find &lt;br&gt; not having ID scrolls to be one of the most frustrating cruelties that &lt;br&gt; the RNG can dole out. I&#39;m impressed, good work. &lt;br&gt; Incidentally, if you were very lucky, you&#39;d have had about a 32% &lt;br&gt; chance of writing the ID scroll with a magic marker. [ rnl(15), rnl
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  <email>lotsofp...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-05T18:23:31Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: My first ascension</title>
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  This is something I have been wondering about. As a non-wizard, what &lt;br&gt; kind of chance would the Valkyrie have had at writing a scroll of &lt;br&gt; identify?
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  <author>
  <name>Carl</name>
  <email>carlhnel...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-05T17:59:34Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/730fb1b584dfc1dd/3c32aaf77a5f10cd?show_docid=3c32aaf77a5f10cd</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: on Life Saving</title>
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  [snip] &lt;br&gt; Are you thinking of a specific event? Something like an Archon &lt;br&gt; walking around a corner or something? &lt;br&gt; C
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  <author>
  <name>eue</name>
  <email>martinho.fernan...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-05T17:04:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/0f37d7da3e77d031/1e39ff88a7892121?show_docid=1e39ff88a7892121</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/0f37d7da3e77d031/1e39ff88a7892121?show_docid=1e39ff88a7892121"/>
  <title type="text">My first ascension</title>
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  I did it! I finally did it! I ascended for the first time. &lt;br&gt; I played a lawful Valkyrie. I took the easy way, but hey, first time! &lt;br&gt; Ok, the beginning was quite devoid of events of remark, bashing &lt;br&gt; monsters and all that. I #dipped the longsword for Excalibur. I &lt;br&gt; skipped the Mines and headed for Sokoban first. By level 6 I found
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  <author>
  <email>pend...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-05T14:14:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/cc344223a92fbeff/850cf6b6ca522ae7?show_docid=850cf6b6ca522ae7</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Can any monsters destroy statues?</title>
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  Yes. &lt;br&gt; Sometimes. It depends on your alignment, I think. &lt;br&gt; Not at all. If you&#39;re as heavily armed and armored as I am by this &lt;br&gt; point in the game with a golf bag of wands besides, he should have no &lt;br&gt; chance.
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  <author>
  <email>pend...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-05T14:10:12Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/cc344223a92fbeff/6221e0c9ab8e0a21?show_docid=6221e0c9ab8e0a21"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Can any monsters destroy statues?</title>
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  On Aug 31, 2:42 am, Janis Papanagnou &amp;lt;janis_papanag...@hotmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; [snip] &lt;br&gt; Yes, the stone-to-flesh will preserve the statue contents. I routinely &lt;br&gt; restore human statues on the medusa level. Sometimes they turn out &lt;br&gt; hostile and I must kill them in self-defense. More than once I&#39;ve had &lt;br&gt; to fight Perseus, then looted boots of water walking or a shield of
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