Dan Logcher wrote: > I love a good banh mi with the tiny thai chiles. Its been a while > since I had one though. This sandwich would be list without the > fresh cilantro.
This is how I learned to like cilantro - on banh mi. After you eat about 500 of them, you'll like cilantro :-)
As for the Thai bird chiles, I have to buy packages that are 25% orange and red and the rest are green. The green ones are tasteless compared to the reds. So I throw those away.
In article <69795042-acd0-41d0-9a87-cb8dfd443...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
<dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote: >Cilantro is an herb that people either love or hate, and I happen to >be one of those who hate it and thinks it tastes like soap.
I feel similarly about cheese (a pizza may as well be covered in pus). And coffee (which reeks and tastes like dirt). And hot spices in sufficient quantities to mask other flavors (and is often a sign of an unskilled chef).
The trick, however, is to avoid ordering things that contain those ingredients.
>I ate at a very expensive Indian restaurant last night
Stop right there. If you don't like cilantro, why did you go to a restaurant serving cuisine that typically uses cilantro?
>told the waiter I didn't care for cilantro and requested that they >hold the cilantro on my lamb curry. So they made sure to dump >cilantro on top and I wasted half the curry trying to pick it out >to make it edible.
If this was an "expensive" restaurant, why didn't you send it back?
>The retards at McDonalds are able to hold the pickle if the customer >requests it. Even Mexican taquerias will hold the chiles if you say >you like it mild. They could even put the cilantro on the side and >let the customer decide whether to put it in his taco or curry.
So, again, why didn't you send it back? You placed the order, the waiter agreed, and they fouled it up. That should be the restaurant's problem, not yours.
>Vietnamese restaurants are another big offender when it comes to >cilantro. I can't even stand the thought of Vietnamese food anymore >because of it.
So, don't eat there.
>My guess is that cilantro is traditionally used to cover up the >taste of spoiled meat.
That's the idea behind "chicken fried steak" to disguise a substandard piece of meat.
Actually, if used properly, cilantro works as a flavor enhancer to good meat.
>> I love a good banh mi with the tiny thai chiles. Its been a while >> since I had one though. This sandwich would be list without the >> fresh cilantro.
> This is how I learned to like cilantro - on banh mi. After you eat > about 500 of them, you'll like cilantro :-)
> As for the Thai bird chiles, I have to buy packages that are 25% orange > and red and the rest are green. The green ones are tasteless compared > to the reds. So I throw those away.
I grew them once.. orange and red were really hot! Japanese beatles ate all the leaves off the plants. I guess I should have saved some of the seeds..
In article <69795042-acd0-41d0-9a87-cb8dfd443c62 @q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, dank...@rocketmail.com says...
> Cilantro is an herb that people either love or hate, and I happen to > be one of those who hate it and thinks it tastes like soap.
I go the other way, it is one of the most wonderful fragrants in food.
> I ate at a very expensive Indian restaurant last night and told the > waiter I didn't care for cilantro and requested that they hold the > cilantro on my lamb curry. So they made sure to dump cilantro on top > and I wasted half the curry trying to pick it out to make it edible. > Even then, the flavor was ruined every time I bit into a stray piece > and the vile taste overwhelmed my taste buds.
When making any meat curry I always through a handful in during cooking add more so it just wilts before serving, then top with a small raw sprinkle as a garnish.
> In article <69795042-acd0-41d0-9a87-cb8dfd443c62 > @q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, dank...@rocketmail.com says... >> Cilantro is an herb that people either love or hate, and I >> happen to be one of those who hate it and thinks it tastes >> like soap. > I go the other way, it is one of the most wonderful fragrants > in food. >> I ate at a very expensive Indian restaurant last night and >> told the waiter I didn't care for cilantro and requested that >> they hold the cilantro on my lamb curry. So they made sure >> to dump cilantro on top and I wasted half the curry trying to >> pick it out to make it edible. Even then, the flavor was >> ruined every time I bit into a stray piece and the vile taste >> overwhelmed my taste buds.
> When making any meat curry I always through a handful in > during cooking add more so it just wilts before serving, then > top with a small raw sprinkle as a garnish. > You hate me already don't you.\
Gosh, how often will the perennial thread on who can taste cilantro and its genetic implications have to appear?
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> Cilantro is an herb that people either love or hate, and I happen to > be one of those who hate it and thinks it tastes like soap.
> I ate at a very expensive Indian restaurant last night and told the > waiter I didn't care for cilantro and requested that they hold the > cilantro on my lamb curry. So they made sure to dump cilantro on top > and I wasted half the curry trying to pick it out to make it edible. > Even then, the flavor was ruined every time I bit into a stray piece > and the vile taste overwhelmed my taste buds.
> The retards at McDonalds are able to hold the pickle if the customer > requests it. Even Mexican taquerias will hold the chiles if you say > you like it mild. They could even put the cilantro on the side and > let the customer decide whether to put it in his taco or curry.
> Vietnamese restaurants are another big offender when it comes to > cilantro. I can't even stand the thought of Vietnamese food anymore > because of it. My guess is that cilantro is traditionally used to > cover up the taste of spoiled meat.
In article <69795042-acd0-41d0-9a87-cb8dfd443...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
<dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote: >I ate at a very expensive Indian restaurant last night and told the >waiter I didn't care for cilantro
That's your mistake. I have met many Indians who don't know what you mean when you say "cilantro." If you ask to leave out the cilantro, they will assume what they put in is fine because they don't use anything called cilantro in their food. To them, it's called coriander. Cilantro is the Spanish name.
On Apr 12, 5:32 pm, a...@spamcop.net (axlq) wrote:
> That's your mistake. I have met many Indians who don't know what you > mean when you say "cilantro." If you ask to leave out the cilantro, > they will assume what they put in is fine because they don't use > anything called cilantro in their food. To them, it's called > coriander. Cilantro is the Spanish name.
His mistake??? That is really carrying the PC accommodating foreigners bullshit too damn far. People open up a restaurant in an area and they don't know the local food lingo? Not to mention, that cilantro is a well known aka for coriander in culinary circles. No, it's the restaurant's mistake.
I know the "customer is always right" is a joke nowadays, but no way the OP is at fault. Geezus, go to an Italian place and you say no mushrooms, and it's your fault because you didn't say no funghi...NO WAY!
Ciccio <frances...@comcast.net> wrote: >His mistake??? That is really carrying the PC accommodating foreigners >bullshit too damn far. People open up a restaurant in an area and >they don't know the local food lingo? Not to mention, that cilantro is >a well known aka for coriander in culinary circles. No, it's the >restaurant's mistake. >I know the "customer is always right" is a joke nowadays, but no way >the OP is at fault. Geezus, go to an Italian place and you say no >mushrooms, and it's your fault because you didn't say no funghi...NO >WAY!
The Voice of reason.
You got your ethnic restaurants that don't speak the local majority language, and they do business at one level, and then you got those that do, and they do business at a better level. It all evens out. Parity.
In article <0ae27622-7705-4df8-88ea-e92fda658...@o11g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
Ciccio <frances...@comcast.net> wrote: >On Apr 12, 5:32 pm, a...@spamcop.net (axlq) wrote: >> That's your mistake. I have met many Indians who don't know what you >> mean when you say "cilantro." If you ask to leave out the cilantro, >> they will assume what they put in is fine because they don't use >> anything called cilantro in their food. To them, it's called >> coriander. Cilantro is the Spanish name.
>His mistake??? That is really carrying the PC accommodating foreigners >bullshit too damn far. People open up a restaurant in an area and
Simmer down. I was being sarcastic, more or less.
Perhaps "mistake" wasn't appropriate, but the word in this context has an interesting background:
Two weeks ago an Indian friend put on a baby shower for us. (My function was to turn it into a wine tasting party to get rid of some cases of wine that are getting a bit old, so I tended bar.) The party attracted 45 guests, so we used the clubhouse at our condo complex.
Anyway, she and another Indian guy were up late the night before cooking, then on party day they took over our kitchen, finished preparing all the food, and it was a glorious feast. I quail at the thought of preparing an 8-course buffet for 45 people, but they pulled it off. Most of it *wasn't* Indian cuisine, but some was, and some was pre-prepared from a store.
Now, my Mom was there, too. She hates cilantro.
My Mom asked our friends which dishes had cilantro in them, and they told her "none". They were using coriander in some dishes. My Mom thought afterward that she was lied to until I explained that Indians likely don't call it cilantro, and may not have known what she meant, to which she responded "maybe that was my mistake."
The very next week, with her comment in mind, I posted the above reply.
On Apr 15, 1:25 pm, a...@spamcop.net (axlq) wrote:
> Simmer down. I was being sarcastic, more or less.
Maybe you were. Yet, there are idiots who actually assert such bullshit.
> Two weeks ago an Indian friend put on a baby shower for us. > My Mom asked our friends which dishes had cilantro in them, and they > told her "none". They were using coriander in some dishes. My > Mom thought afterward that she was lied to until I explained that > Indians likely don't call it cilantro, and may not have known what > she meant, to which she responded "maybe that was my mistake."
> The very next week, with her comment in mind, I posted the above > reply.
Hosts serving guests at at private baby shower is a big difference from a professional restauranter serving paying patrons.
Though, in both instances, it is rather odd that nobody inquired something like: "What is cilantro?" I mean jeez, if some Indian were to ask me: "Is there dhanyia in the food?" Almost reflexively I'd reply: "What is dhanyia?" Perhaps, it's part of Indian social mores not to make such inquiries.
> Perhaps, it's part of Indian social mores not to make > such inquiries.
Just say, "Perhaps it's part of Western European and US social mores to reflexively ask, "What's that?" Many asian and Indian cultures wouldn't think to make such an inquiry...
On Apr 26, 6:23 pm, "The Ranger" <cuhulain...@yahoo.moc> wrote:
> Ciccio <frances...@comcast.net> wrote in message > Just say, "Perhaps it's part of Western European and US social mores to > reflexively ask, "What's that?"
At the risk of sounding ethnocentric, then obviously our way is better, since guests and patrons wouldn't get served what they dislike. Unless, I'm missing the positive aspect of serving people food they dislike or are allergic to.
> Many asian and Indian cultures wouldn't think to make such an inquiry...
So, I was right, it is part of their social mores...Interesting.
> Just say, "Perhaps it's part of Western European and US social mores to > reflexively ask, "What's that?" Many asian and Indian cultures wouldn't > think to make such an inquiry...
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