sf wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:53:13 -0600, George Leppla > <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
>> As the Taster In Chief... I can tell you it was all delicious.
>> The broccoli salad was so good that the PA Amish would be proud to claim >> it for their own.
> I haven't eaten yet. You're making me hungry! >> The pound cake was very good. Since I try to avoid white flour, I only >> had a taste and it was hard to stop eating.
> Oh, sorry! Are you gluten intolerant? My soon to be DIL discovered > that intolerance herself recently and has discovered since then that > although it's best to avoid it, she can indulge every now and then w/o > too much repercussion.
Yep, when I eat anything with any large amounts of white flour in it, I blow up like the Hindenburg. I pretty much try to stay away from it if I can and Becca is great about making me gluten free things like pancakes, cornbread, etc. I have come to appreciate corn tortillas and prefer them to flour tortillas now..... and for some reason, a slice or two of Mrs. Baird's 7 grain bread is tolerable for the times I absolutely must have a sandwich.
> "cshenk" wrote: >> Good! For me, finally saw the Doc today. First time in 26 years with a >> civilian Doc. Instead of just getting refills and being shuffled off on >> my >> way, got referrals and real treatment. Interesting. Off to a regular >> otho >> with a morning call to validate the referral.
> Good! I hope you get the help you need. :-) > It's not always easy... Keep us updated please.
Now waiting on Tricare. 7-10 days and will have letter with authorization number. Doc wanted it in 3 but picked the wrong person to refer to and they don't do that without the number at that site. Lol, tricare will provide the number with a time/date of appointment but place wont provide a time/date without the number first.
For those in favor of 'National health care' take note, it's certainly better than none, but it's not like a well managed HMO. In a well managed HMO, an emergency referral will *happen*. Under Tricare, they carefully made sure i knew where the emergency room was and how to dial 911 if i can't get in and it gets bad fast before the appointment can be made. Oh well. It appears to be slowly healing with proper use of the robaxin ands careful use of tramadol.
Don't worry, the tramadol is used very sparingly. It's a bottle of 30 from Nov 2008. Have first refill since then. I take it only *as needed* as am a long term sort and that stuff can be real bad if mis-used over a long time.
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:48:46 -0500, "cshenk" <cshe...@cox.net> wrote: >For those in favor of 'National health care' take note, it's certainly >better than none, but it's not like a well managed HMO.
Agreed about the HMO, but those of us who currently have health insurance and are pro national health care are not looking at it for others, not ourselves. We are appalled at the number of people who don't have any health coverage.
-- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:27:14 -0600, George Leppla
> <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote: > >I have come to appreciate corn tortillas and > >prefer them to flour tortillas now.....
> Each has their place, IMO. Hubby has been buying a tortilla that's a > combination of corn and wheat. He likes it, I think it tastes weird.
That reminded me that my favorite Ameri-Mex restaurant* just instituted $4.99 lunch specials, M-F 11-2, and in less than 14 months the whole of the indoors will be SMOKE FREE (YAY!!!!), as we just passed a smoking ordinance: http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/elections/ballotissues/nov2009/Ordinance... It passed with 65.34% of the vote.
>On Nov 4, 12:43 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:27:14 -0600, George Leppla
>> <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote: >> >I have come to appreciate corn tortillas and >> >prefer them to flour tortillas now.....
>> Each has their place, IMO. Hubby has been buying a tortilla that's a >> combination of corn and wheat. He likes it, I think it tastes weird.
>That reminded me that my favorite Ameri-Mex restaurant* just >instituted $4.99 lunch specials, M-F 11-2, and in less than 14 months >the whole of the indoors will be SMOKE FREE (YAY!!!!), as we just >passed a smoking ordinance: >http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/elections/ballotissues/nov2009/Ordinance... >It passed with 65.34% of the vote.
You have no idea how great it's going to be.... especially after they remodel and get the smoke smell out of everything.
-- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:06 -0800 (PST), --Bryan <class...@brick.net> > wrote:
> >On Nov 4, 12:43 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:27:14 -0600, George Leppla
> >> <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote: > >> >I have come to appreciate corn tortillas and > >> >prefer them to flour tortillas now.....
> >> Each has their place, IMO. Hubby has been buying a tortilla that's a > >> combination of corn and wheat. He likes it, I think it tastes weird.
> >That reminded me that my favorite Ameri-Mex restaurant* just > >instituted $4.99 lunch specials, M-F 11-2, and in less than 14 months > >the whole of the indoors will be SMOKE FREE (YAY!!!!), as we just > >passed a smoking ordinance: > >http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/elections/ballotissues/nov2009/Ordinance... > >It passed with 65.34% of the vote.
> You have no idea how great it's going to be.... especially after they > remodel and get the smoke smell out of everything.
That restaurant is smoke free inside already, except in the bar, which is where they have happy hour 1/2 price appetizers and where you get your own salsa refills, not having to depend on the server. Maybe I'll be in a band again one of these days. There used to be no place at all to play that wasn't smoky.
--Bryan wrote: > That reminded me that my favorite Ameri-Mex restaurant* just > instituted $4.99 lunch specials, M-F 11-2, and in less than 14 months > the whole of the indoors will be SMOKE FREE (YAY!!!!), as we just > passed a smoking ordinance: > http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/elections/ballotissues/nov2009/Ordinance... > It passed with 65.34% of the vote.
> * Hacienda, on Manchester in Rock Hill
> --Bryan
Restaurants in the state of in Louisiana are smoke free. If LA could do it, you would think everyone would.
I can quite honestly say that's one day of the year I don't even think about shopping. In fact, I've never done it. Why battle the crowds when you don't need to? I know why people used to go decades ago, but for the last 30+ years the same type of sales have been common - monthly if not weekly and sometimes a wild sale for one day. Nobody is tied to Black Friday for a good sale anymore.
-- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> --Bryan wrote: >> That reminded me that my favorite Ameri-Mex restaurant* just >> instituted $4.99 lunch specials, M-F 11-2, and in less than 14 months >> the whole of the indoors will be SMOKE FREE (YAY!!!!), as we just >> passed a smoking ordinance: >> http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/elections/ballotissues/nov2009/Ordinance241 >> 05.pdf It passed with 65.34% of the vote.
>> * Hacienda, on Manchester in Rock Hill
>> --Bryan
> Restaurants in the state of in Louisiana are smoke free. If LA could do > it, you would think everyone would.
All 'public gathering' places in Australia have been smoke free for quite some time now.
Looks like St Louis is still in the dark ages.
-- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat?
> I can quite honestly say that's one day of the year I don't even think > about shopping. In fact, I've never done it. Why battle the crowds > when you don't need to? I know why people used to go decades ago, but > for the last 30+ years the same type of sales have been common - > monthly if not weekly and sometimes a wild sale for one day. Nobody > is tied to Black Friday for a good sale anymore.
I have gotten prices on items that were lower than at any other time. I do avoid the big box electronics stores and Wal Mart.
Becca wrote: > --Bryan wrote: >> That reminded me that my favorite Ameri-Mex restaurant* just >> instituted $4.99 lunch specials, M-F 11-2, and in less than 14 months >> the whole of the indoors will be SMOKE FREE (YAY!!!!), as we just >> passed a smoking ordinance: >> http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/elections/ballotissues/nov2009/Ordinance...
>> It passed with 65.34% of the vote.
>> * Hacienda, on Manchester in Rock Hill
>> --Bryan
> Restaurants in the state of in Louisiana are smoke free. If LA could do > it, you would think everyone would.
> Becca
You tell them Becca, if we can do it anyone can. Thank goodness for Mississippi, if it weren't for them we would be dead last among states for everything. <G>
Louisiana, home of the crooked politicians, Chicago can't hold a candle to us. If you don't believe that, take a look at how many of our politicians are in the federal slammer.
> > --Bryan wrote: > >> That reminded me that my favorite Ameri-Mex restaurant* just > >> instituted $4.99 lunch specials, M-F 11-2, and in less than 14 months > >> the whole of the indoors will be SMOKE FREE (YAY!!!!), as we just > >> passed a smoking ordinance: > >>http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/elections/ballotissues/nov2009/Ordinance241 > >> 05.pdf It passed with 65.34% of the vote.
> >> * Hacienda, on Manchester in Rock Hill
> >> --Bryan
> > Restaurants in the state of in Louisiana are smoke free. If LA could do > > it, you would think everyone would.
> All 'public gathering' places in Australia have been smoke free for quite > some time now.
> Looks like St Louis is still in the dark ages.
In many ways it is. In some others, it is very progressive. Our world class Zoo is free, supported by property taxes, as is our Art Museum, except for special exhibits. Our world class Symphony* has reasonably priced seats available, and reserves 60 free tickets for each concert for folks who can't afford even those seats. Our world class Botanical Garden is also funded by the St. Louis Zoo Museum District: http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2006/05/22/story2.html Residents of the District are admitted free Wed. and Sat. mornings: http://www.mobot.org/visit/hours.asp Most public libraries and schools in the area are well supported. It's not a bad place to be a lower income person. It should be noted that the smoking ban passed pretty overwhelmingly in St. Louis County, and that triggered a ban put into place by St. Louis City (its own county) that was contingent upon the County ban. And yay for Kirkwood, the municipality where I work. Their smoking ban has no exemptions for bars that have 75% or more of total sales from liquor.
* For this Sunday's concert, the movie music of John Williams, "David Robertson [our music director] actually worked out the program with the composer himself."
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:43:37 -0800 (PST), Food Snob®
<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote: >In many ways it is. In some others, it is very progressive. Our >world class Zoo is free, supported by property taxes, as is our Art >Museum, except for special exhibits. Our world class Symphony* has >reasonably priced seats available, and reserves 60 free tickets for >each concert for folks who can't afford even those seats. Our world >class Botanical Garden is also funded by the St. Louis Zoo Museum >District:
Sounds like a good place to visit! I plan on watching plane fares and hopping on one in any direction, anytime a good fare comes up now that I'm in a position to do that kind of thing.
<Putting St. Louis on the destination list> :)
-- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:43:37 -0800 (PST), Food Snob®
> <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >In many ways it is. In some others, it is very progressive. Our > >world class Zoo is free, supported by property taxes, as is our Art > >Museum, except for special exhibits. Our world class Symphony* has > >reasonably priced seats available, and reserves 60 free tickets for > >each concert for folks who can't afford even those seats. Our world > >class Botanical Garden is also funded by the St. Louis Zoo Museum > >District:
> Sounds like a good place to visit! I plan on watching plane fares and > hopping on one in any direction, anytime a good fare comes up now that > I'm in a position to do that kind of thing.
> <Putting St. Louis on the destination list> :)
Feel free to email me for lots of local info. There are several other St. Louisans on here too.
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > On Mon 02 Nov 2009 06:51:43p, Becca told us...
> >> Omelet wrote: > >>> The recipes both turned out good and I'd classify one as fantastic and > >>> will be a do-over for sure!
> >> The Cookalong was fun, but it took about 5-6 hours. Maybe I cooked too > >> many things? lol I cooked the broccoli salad that Serene and Wayne > >> mentioned. I also cooked Sheldon's Chili Muy Bueno, cornbread and the > >> pound cake koko posted to the group. You can see the photos here:
> > Everything looks wonderful, Beccca! I'm a *very* slow cook. I doubt I > > would work out well in a Cookalong, plus I don't do chat. :-)
> Er, I only started yesterday, and the currants are still > macerating. (Don't tell anyone.)
<lol> Better late than never. :-) I started a day early and ended a day (actually only 3 hours but still) late! I finally posted my pics. Had to get at them first, then take the time to run them thru photoshop.
I'm not usually this ambitious in the kitchen. <g> I prefer to keep it simple but that one sauce was SO good, it'll be a do-over for sure! -- Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein
"cshenk" <cshe...@cox.net> wrote: > "Omelet" wrote > > "cshenk" wrote:
> >> Good! For me, finally saw the Doc today. First time in 26 years with a > >> civilian Doc. Instead of just getting refills and being shuffled off on > >> my > >> way, got referrals and real treatment. Interesting. Off to a regular > >> otho > >> with a morning call to validate the referral.
> > Good! I hope you get the help you need. :-) > > It's not always easy... Keep us updated please.
> Now waiting on Tricare. 7-10 days and will have letter with authorization > number. Doc wanted it in 3 but picked the wrong person to refer to and they > don't do that without the number at that site. Lol, tricare will provide > the number with a time/date of appointment but place wont provide a > time/date without the number first.
> For those in favor of 'National health care' take note, it's certainly > better than none, but it's not like a well managed HMO. In a well managed > HMO, an emergency referral will *happen*. Under Tricare, they carefully > made sure i knew where the emergency room was and how to dial 911 if i can't > get in and it gets bad fast before the appointment can be made. Oh well. > It appears to be slowly healing with proper use of the robaxin ands careful > use of tramadol.
> Don't worry, the tramadol is used very sparingly. It's a bottle of 30 from > Nov 2008. Have first refill since then. I take it only *as needed* as am a > long term sort and that stuff can be real bad if mis-used over a long time.
Don't knock it. I've been tempted to ask my primary care doc for Oxycontin as I'm tired of not being able to sleep. ;-) The MRI revealed a full tear of one of the rotator cuff tendons. That ain't gonna heal on it's own, and I can NOT take time off from work for surgery until at least February...
Lighting a candle for you dear! At least what I have is only debilitating, not life threatening! -- Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein
> In article <7laqliF3dpac...@mid.individual.net>, > "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> > On Mon 02 Nov 2009 06:51:43p, Becca told us...
>> >> Omelet wrote: >> >>> The recipes both turned out good and I'd classify one as fantastic >> >>> and will be a do-over for sure!
>> >> The Cookalong was fun, but it took about 5-6 hours. Maybe I cooked >> >> too many things? lol I cooked the broccoli salad that Serene and >> >> Wayne mentioned. I also cooked Sheldon's Chili Muy Bueno, cornbread >> >> and the pound cake koko posted to the group. You can see the photos >> >> here:
>> > Everything looks wonderful, Beccca! I'm a *very* slow cook. I doubt >> > I would work out well in a Cookalong, plus I don't do chat. :-)
>> Er, I only started yesterday, and the currants are still >> macerating. (Don't tell anyone.)
> <lol> Better late than never. :-) I started a day early and ended a day > (actually only 3 hours but still) late! I finally posted my pics. Had > to get at them first, then take the time to run them thru photoshop.
> I'm not usually this ambitious in the kitchen. <g> I prefer to keep it > simple but that one sauce was SO good, it'll be a do-over for sure!
I got back too late to do anything, so I'll maybe just make the recipes at a later date and let the people concerned know :-)
-- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat?
In article <8m82f59th1lfgfo5fcvm3g48itpljg1...@4ax.com>, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:48:46 -0500, "cshenk" <cshe...@cox.net> wrote:
> >For those in favor of 'National health care' take note, it's certainly > >better than none, but it's not like a well managed HMO.
> Agreed about the HMO, but those of us who currently have health > insurance and are pro national health care are not looking at it for > others, not ourselves. We are appalled at the number of people who > don't have any health coverage.
That's just it hon'. It's bull.
Even the homeless have "health care coverage". They can walk into any ER any time and if that ER is Federally subsidized (which most are) Emergency care can NOT be refused to ANYONE, regardless of their "insured" status.
If it cannot and won't be paid, it gets written off.
Those of us that have health insurance end up paying for them already with higher premiums and co-pays...
Universal health care coverage is already well in place.
It's a solution looking for a problem... and I think all it can do is hurt us with higher tax rates. -- Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein
> "cshenk" wrote: >>For those in favor of 'National health care' take note, it's certainly >>better than none, but it's not like a well managed HMO. > Agreed about the HMO, but those of us who currently have health > insurance and are pro national health care are not looking at it for > others, not ourselves. We are appalled at the number of people who > don't have any health coverage.
Sure, and so am I. But fact is in quite a few cases, they don't because although they make enough for the plan their employer has, they 'opt' to not take it. I know that isnt the case for the self employed, out of work person, or temp staff, or part time worker.
I (given a chance) will vote for national health care if the plan is solid and doesnt include illegal aliens. I'd like to see it with tiers you *chose* with 1 free (Catostrophic care covered, highish annual level must be reached before pays out), a medium level you pay for (lower annual level before starts paying out), and top tier which you pay more for (lowest annual pay out before it kicks in and all visits are reduced by plan).
Oh juggle the numbers at need but something like:
Level 1- after 10,000 cant be charged more (all has to be validated needed care, no electives like a face lift or tummy tuck)- free to all Level II- After 5,000 cant be charged more (all has to be validated needed care, no electives like a face lift or tummy tuck)- pay reduced office visit and meds, pay to join plan, something like 50$ per person a month? Level III - all fees reduced (again, has to be validated care, not electives like face lift or tummy tuck). No caps on either end. Something like 100$ a person a month?
Not sure the fees work out quite right but you got the gist of the idea.
I have zero sympathy for the person who makes enough to have catostrophic care (cost often under the amounts listed above but based on age) but opts to not have it because they'd rather spend the money to have HBO and Showtime. I was however NOT AMUSED at all when job searching at how many 'companies' wanted me to work for them but on checking, would not cover any 'pre-existing conditions' (50% disability rating here, I need existing and anything new!)
Is it going to cost those of us who make more (of which I gather you and I are), sure. I dont mind that. I am 'amused' that this disabled person who found a job will pay more than most due to income to help other people like me. I am not amused though at the person with cable TV max program and all pay stations, cable modem internet, the flashist new computer, huge phone bills to 'call Mom' every day, who decided they didnt need to pay for health care because it didnt fit and now it's 'my problem' because they want it for free and to keep their ' cable TV max program and all pay stations, cable modem internet, the flashist new computer, huge phone bills to 'call Mom' every day' habits.
I know that isnt everybody. Some really need help, but the other set will come with the package and are part of the statistics you see on 'how many are not insured'. Best as I can tell, they are the largest portion of those under age 35.
>>> Good! For me, finally saw the Doc today. First time in 26 years with >>> a civilian Doc. Instead of just getting refills and being shuffled >>> off on my >>> way, got referrals and real treatment. Interesting. Off to a regular >>> otho >>> with a morning call to validate the referral.
>> Good! I hope you get the help you need. :-) >> It's not always easy... Keep us updated please.
> Now waiting on Tricare. 7-10 days and will have letter with > authorization number. Doc wanted it in 3 but picked the wrong person to > refer to and they don't do that without the number at that site. Lol, > tricare will provide the number with a time/date of appointment but > place wont provide a time/date without the number first.
Man!! What a screwed system!!
Here, if you want to see an ortho, you go to your local GP and say, "Give me a referral to such-and-such Specialist."
He writes out a referral letter and either rings up and makes an appoinment for you, or you do it yourself.
You turn up at the ortho appointment with the letter, and away you go!!
> For those in favor of 'National health care' take note, it's certainly > better than none, but it's not like a well managed HMO. In a well > managed HMO, an emergency referral will *happen*. Under Tricare, they > carefully made sure i knew where the emergency room was and how to dial > 911 if i can't get in and it gets bad fast before the appointment can be > made. Oh well. It appears to be slowly healing with proper use of the > robaxin ands careful use of tramadol.
> Don't worry, the tramadol is used very sparingly. It's a bottle of 30 > from Nov 2008. Have first refill since then. I take it only *as > needed* as am a long term sort and that stuff can be real bad if > mis-used over a long time.
If you need some extras, let me know. I have plenty here from a couple of months ago that I'll never use again. Tramadol made me feel like I was seasick all the time...... which probaly wouldn't be any big deal for you!! :-)
I started on the 150mg and when they had no effect, the doc put me on the 200mg.
-- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat?
> "cshenk" wrote: >> > It's not always easy... Keep us updated please. >> Now waiting on Tricare. 7-10 days and will have letter with >> authorization >> number. Doc wanted it in 3 but picked the wrong person to refer to and >> they
(on Tramadol)
> Don't knock it. I've been tempted to ask my primary care doc for > Oxycontin as I'm tired of not being able to sleep. ;-) The MRI revealed > a full tear of one of the rotator cuff tendons. That ain't gonna heal on > it's own, and I can NOT take time off from work for surgery until at > least February...
I'm told sometimes the docs swap you about to keep from 'issues' with too much of one type.
That said, I've been blessed with a very high pain tolerance but it's being pressed now. I'd rather put up with it though than upgrade. As usual, the Doc was both pissed and amazed that the Nov 2008 issue of 30 tramadols stilll had some left. He's pissed because I accept pain, and impressed that I reallly 'use as needed'. I went in because the muscle relaxant was running out. Got both.
> Lighting a candle for you dear! At least what I have is only > debilitating, not life threatening!
The specific locations of mine are not life threatening although if the lower back shifts, they can be. The neck set is below the area that can remove ability to breathe etc. I could lose full use of one or both arms(doubtful but is possible), but not loss of life.
Grin, mostly it is just painful. Quality of life impact.
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