Lou Decruss wrote: > Roflmao. I like watching her,,,,,,,BUT around here she's known as > horse head - mouse face. She's so odd looking she's attractive.
> Lou
Hey, she made Parade Magazine centerfold . . or was it cover?
> In article <q5adnW9mA9s89ZjbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvn...@comcast.com>, > rjy...@comcast.net says... > > > Now Rachel Ray and the latest "whoring" herself out to the media and > > > snack food producers is really getting to me.
> > You can't take it away from her, she works her ass off.
> > nancy
> Doesn't anybody else see what I see? FoodTV has degenerated into a > personality-fest, pablum for the nitwits, and has almost totally > abandoned the idea of teaching serious cooking to the viewers. There is > a great preference for some inane, perky-titted numbskull over any > serious chef.
> Where is Mario Batali? Annoying as he was, he knew his ingredients and > knew how to cook, and one could learn from him. Where is Pepin? He knows > more about cooking than 1000 Rays and Emerils and Giadas and Countesses > and Flays all put together.
> FoodTV panders to the lowest level of the audience, and I bet they are > very successful. As H.L. Mwncken said, you'll never go broke > underestimating the taste of the American public.
> -- > Peter Aitken
Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be just the ticket. I don't use unusual ingredients and don't do complex recipes. I pick and choose which recipe will work for me and my family and some of them come from these shows. I like "Made to Order", but my family isn't fond of those type of dishes. They kind of laugh at these plates shown with a little mound of food in the middle and a stripe of garnish across the bare spots. I don't do many sauces, since they add extra fat/sodium/sugar in most cases. I do like Mario Batali. ......Sharon
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:19:13 -0400, Goomba38 <goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>> Well.. her Italian is way better than mine, so it doesn't bother me! >>> Now, looking at her makes me a little queasy but that's another issue. LOL
>> Roflmao. I like watching her,,,,,,,BUT around here she's known as >> horse head - mouse face. She's so odd looking she's attractive.
>She reminds me of a bobble head doll. Big exaggerated features on a >stick figure. Weird.
LOL Very weird. That's probably why so many find her attractive. I dunno.
>>>> Well.. her Italian is way better than mine, so it doesn't bother me! >>>> Now, looking at her makes me a little queasy but that's another issue. >>>> LOL
>>> Roflmao. I like watching her,,,,,,,BUT around here she's known as >>> horse head - mouse face. She's so odd looking she's attractive.
>> She reminds me of a bobble head doll. Big exaggerated features on a stick >> figure. Weird. >> I like her food though.
>I wouldn't think twice about having sex with her.
Me neither. But I doubt she would give me that much mercy.
Hummmm.. Completely different perspective. I see her head isn't the only big thing on that little body. Was there and food related things on that show other than melons? Thanks for the clip. I watched it 10 times. <eg>
> Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many > posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be > just the ticket.
Then they've lost a large segment of their previous audience by losing the shows that experienced cooks/diners would be more apt to enjoy. They seem to have brought the entire schedule down to a lower level of fare. PBS and a few random other shows found elsewhere must be reaping the reward of this limited vision as they do provide the variety missing on FoodTV these days.
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:50:05 -0400, Goomba38 <goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>biig wrote:
>> Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many >> posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be >> just the ticket.
>Then they've lost a large segment of their previous audience by losing >the shows that experienced cooks/diners would be more apt to enjoy. They >seem to have brought the entire schedule down to a lower level of fare. >PBS and a few random other shows found elsewhere must be reaping the >reward of this limited vision as they do provide the variety missing on >FoodTV these days.
Sadly, the previous Food TV audience was too small (and often too old) to get Food TV the advertisers they want. They dropped what wasn't hot and upped and copied what was.
PBS is supported by viewers directly to a great extent, and not nearly as much by advertising of the sort you see on Food TV. Many of the programs come in with their own sponsors and these sponsors seek users of their products in a tight, niche way.
When it is pledge week up here (we have access to 3 PBS stations, NY, Long Island & NJ, each of them tailors their pledge drive programming to niche markets. One night they have a program about Jewish immigration and the lower East Side, the next night it is opera or ballet, the nest is pitched to animal lovers, another night to Riverdance or it's latest equivalent, one of them ran a terrific Polish singing and dance group this past month for pledge. All niche marketing. 'Tis the way of the world.
There isn't that much of a reward to be reaped by Food TV with serious cooking programs, if there were, you'd see more of them. It is wholly market driven, and it is profitable for them that way. Not my cup of tea, but whatcha gonna do?
> Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many > posters here?
Ever think that many posters here are totally undeserving of the homage some give them? The are just a bunch of uncouth yahoo's as well who pick there teeth at the table..
>Click the link and actually read the page. The movie is 24 megs so if >you're on dialup forget it.
I'm on cable and it's still slow.
I didn't see anything to click on, hence my question. What I saw was a page for web hosting.... and it seemed like pure advertising for something called RapidShare. The link is neatly burried in a lot of cr*p.
Better to upload it to YouTube if you really want to share Steve. I'm bored already. The file is only 50% downloaded and I finished this post before I've seen the video.... after jumping through multiple hoops just to get to the download stage.
Sheesh - that is *not a browser friendly site.... it confused my modem/router at 86% downloaded. Now I have to recycle them and the computer because just recycling them didn't put me back online.
> > Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many > > posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be > > just the ticket.
> Then they've lost a large segment of their previous audience by losing > the shows that experienced cooks/diners would be more apt to enjoy. They > seem to have brought the entire schedule down to a lower level of fare. > PBS and a few random other shows found elsewhere must be reaping the > reward of this limited vision as they do provide the variety missing on > FoodTV these days.
I agree with that, but then, they're scheduling for the masses. I'd also like to see some of the other shows that have been taken off. I watch the shows on PBS too. Lidia and Ming especially. In Canada, we don't get Sandra Lee (a blessing from what I've been reading here..lol) but we do have a few good Canadian shows. Chef at Home is one. He makes food that isn't too complex. Ricardo and Friends is another....Sharon
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:48:39 -0500, biig <b...@mnsi.net> wrote:
> Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many >posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be >just the ticket. I don't use unusual ingredients and don't do complex >recipes. I pick and choose which recipe will work for me and my family >and some of them come from these shows. I like "Made to Order", but my >family isn't fond of those type of dishes. They kind of laugh at these >plates shown with a little mound of food in the middle and a stripe of >garnish across the bare spots. I don't do many sauces, since they add >extra fat/sodium/sugar in most cases. I do like Mario Batali.
Have you seen Quick Fix Meals with Robin Miller? That and Easy Entertaining with that studmuffin, Michael Chiarello, are my two favorites.
Bobby Flay is ok, but his articulation problem annoys me more than I like his cooking, if you get my drift. Go to a speech therapist, Bobby... you can afford it.
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:50:05 -0400, Goomba38 <goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>biig wrote:
>> Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many >> posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be >> just the ticket.
>Then they've lost a large segment of their previous audience by losing >the shows that experienced cooks/diners would be more apt to enjoy. They >seem to have brought the entire schedule down to a lower level of fare. >PBS and a few random other shows found elsewhere must be reaping the >reward of this limited vision as they do provide the variety missing on >FoodTV these days.
I don't think it's a "lower level". People these days don't want to make everything from scratch, so these show tell you how to do it faster. If you want to make the marinara from scratch, no one is holding a gun to your head saying "open a jar".
OTOH: I'd like to see more shows for beginners. I learned to cook from Julia Child and The Galloping Gourment (Graham Kerr). When I think of it, I still turn to Public Television for a dose of Lidia.... who is a fantastic cook and makes it easy for beginners.
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:48:39 -0500, biig <b...@mnsi.net> wrote:
> > Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many > >posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be > >just the ticket. I don't use unusual ingredients and don't do complex > >recipes. I pick and choose which recipe will work for me and my family > >and some of them come from these shows. I like "Made to Order", but my > >family isn't fond of those type of dishes. They kind of laugh at these > >plates shown with a little mound of food in the middle and a stripe of > >garnish across the bare spots. I don't do many sauces, since they add > >extra fat/sodium/sugar in most cases. I do like Mario Batali.
> Have you seen Quick Fix Meals with Robin Miller? That and Easy > Entertaining with that studmuffin, Michael Chiarello, are my two > favorites.
> Bobby Flay is ok, but his articulation problem annoys me more than I > like his cooking, if you get my drift. Go to a speech therapist, > Bobby... you can afford it.
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:50:05 -0400, Goomba38 <goomb...@comcast.net> > wrote:
> >biig wrote:
> >> Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many > >> posters here? For anyone just starting out some of these shows may be > >> just the ticket.
> >Then they've lost a large segment of their previous audience by losing > >the shows that experienced cooks/diners would be more apt to enjoy. They > >seem to have brought the entire schedule down to a lower level of fare. > >PBS and a few random other shows found elsewhere must be reaping the > >reward of this limited vision as they do provide the variety missing on > >FoodTV these days.
> I don't think it's a "lower level". People these days don't want to > make everything from scratch, so these show tell you how to do it > faster. If you want to make the marinara from scratch, no one is > holding a gun to your head saying "open a jar".
> OTOH: I'd like to see more shows for beginners. I learned to cook > from Julia Child and The Galloping Gourment (Graham Kerr). When I > think of it, I still turn to Public Television for a dose of Lidia.... > who is a fantastic cook and makes it easy for beginners.
> -- > See return address to reply by email
I loved Graham Kerr, but don't get his show here.....Sharon
On Mar 24, 11:34 am, "Cindi" <CARA1...@AOL.COM> wrote:
> Is it just me, or does anyone else find Giada's emphatic Italian > pronunciation of everything slightly annoying? It sounds a bit uppity > to me. But I'm just a plain ole middle class Joisey girl, whaddoo I > know? I like her shows and her recipes, otherwise.
I don't particularly mind Giada's Italian pronunciation. However, the perusals I've gotten of her latest show left me with the disturbing impression that she's turning into Rachel Ray. She acts completely enraptured by everything she puts in her mouth just as RR does in $40.00 A Day. She does the rolling of eyes, the fake ectasy, everything but "Yum-O!" The resemblance is uncanny, so much so that I have to wonder if the Food Network makes Giada consult the same (bad) acting coach RR used.
sf wrote: > Bobby Flay is ok, but his articulation problem annoys me more than I > like his cooking, if you get my drift. Go to a speech therapist, > Bobby... you can afford it.
LOL.. I never noticed an articulation problem. He sounds fine to me <shrug> Tyler Florence and Alton Brown are still some of my faves though.
On Mar 25, 2:26 pm, Goomba38 <goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> sf wrote: > > Bobby Flay is ok, but his articulation problem annoys me more than I > > like his cooking, if you get my drift. Go to a speech therapist, > > Bobby... you can afford it.
> LOL.. I never noticed an articulation problem. He sounds fine to me <shrug> > Tyler Florence and Alton Brown are still some of my faves though.
Flay has very serious pronunciation problems. He pronounces rs as ws (e.g., he pronounces "cream" as "cweem"), just like Wacko Jacko. And he completely mangles some words; I've heard him pronounce "customers" as "cutchmers." He has problems with syntax too. He's the worst speaker on the channel.
>> Ever think that most of the population isn't as gourmet as many >> posters here?
>Ever think that many posters here are totally undeserving of the homage some >give them? The are just a bunch of uncouth yahoo's as well who pick there teeth >at the table..
Taking staw from mouth and hayseed from ear..... HUH?
sf wrote: > Have you seen Quick Fix Meals with Robin Miller? That and Easy > Entertaining with that studmuffin, Michael Chiarello, are my two > favorites.
I totally gave Quick Fix Meals the benefit of the doubt, and recorded show after show, but finally came to the conclusion that it's barely a step up from Semi-Homemade, and has nothing of interest to me.
> Bobby Flay is ok, but his articulation problem annoys me more than I > like his cooking, if you get my drift. Go to a speech therapist, > Bobby... you can afford it.
I think Bobby Flay is finally starting to loosen up. I saw him as a guest on "Emeril Live," and actually enjoyed the show for once. Despite his reputation as a one-trick Southwestern pony, on "Iron Chef America" I've seen him come up with very innovative dishes borrowing from many different cuisines. I like him more these days than I did in the past. (Comment on his articulation follows in a later post.)
Sharon wrote: > I agree with that, but then, they're scheduling for the masses. I'd > also like to see some of the other shows that have been taken off. I > watch the shows on PBS too. Lidia and Ming especially. In Canada, we > don't get Sandra Lee (a blessing from what I've been reading here..lol) > but we do have a few good Canadian shows. Chef at Home is one. He makes > food that isn't too complex. Ricardo and Friends is another....Sharon
On PBS I watch America's Test Kitchen and sometimes Martin Yan's Chinatown. Every now and then I watch the old episodes of East Meets West or Epicurious on the Travel Channel. On the Food Network, I read the previews and if they interest me I'll record any of the following: Essence of Emeril, Good Eats, Everyday Italian, Molto Mario, 30-Minute Meals, and Guy's Big Bite. On rare occasions I'll watch episodes of Sara's Secrets or the Surreal Gourmet. I always enjoy watching Iron Chef America. I watched Dinner: Impossible a few times and decided that it wasn't for me.
Kyle wrote: > Flay has very serious pronunciation problems. He pronounces rs as ws > (e.g., he pronounces "cream" as "cweem"), just like Wacko Jacko. And > he completely mangles some words; I've heard him pronounce "customers" > as "cutchmers." He has problems with syntax too. He's the worst > speaker on the channel.
"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote
> On PBS I watch America's Test Kitchen and sometimes Martin Yan's > Chinatown. > Every now and then I watch the old episodes of East Meets West or > Epicurious > on the Travel Channel. On the Food Network, I read the previews and if > they > interest me I'll record any of the following: Essence of Emeril, Good > Eats, > Everyday Italian, Molto Mario, 30-Minute Meals, and Guy's Big Bite. On > rare > occasions I'll watch episodes of Sara's Secrets or the Surreal Gourmet. I > always enjoy watching Iron Chef America. I watched Dinner: Impossible a > few > times and decided that it wasn't for me.
I don't watch many actual cooking shows any more. I do record America's Test Kitchen every day, but I might stop doing that as I think I've seen them all. I should make more of an effort to watch Lidia. I like Guy's Big Bite, Hearty Boys. Tyler's Ultimate, Ellie Kreiger. Throwdown. I'm sure I'm missing a few.
I did enjoy the couple of Food Network Unwrapped shows ... not to be confused with Unwrapped, alone, they are behind-the-scenes shows about making FoodTV shows. If you like Iron Chef that is one of the shows they covered in Food Network Unwrapped 2 which I just saw today. Might learn something about the making of the show.
I find the chefographies interesting, but they aren't cooking shows. Same with Ace of Cakes, it's amusing but hardly cooking. I don't even know if the cakes they make are all that edible. I like Recipe for Success and that restaurant redo shows, but they aren't cooking shows, either.
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