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Wes  
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 More options Nov 8, 10:45 am
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
From: Wes <clu...@lycos.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 10:45 am
Subject: Trust but verify (metalworking not political)
I'm trying to repair a loader for a machining cell. A shaft that drives the loader between
machines is highly fubared.  25mm shaft that is now 22mm where one of the bearings ride.
No wonder we were getting torque alarms.

Anyway, my co-worker welds up the shaft for me.  Btw, wrapping things with fiberglass tape
that you don't want weld on is fairly handy.  He got carried away slightly and welded a
few threads that the bearhug nut uses to secure the bearings.

No big deal, 10 mm of threads, 1.5mm pitch.  I'll just put the lathe in neutral and turn
the chuck by hand since this is an imperial machine and you can't open the half nuts.

Read the charts, put the gears and levers in the right place, pick up the thread and damn,
I'm cutting where I shouldn't be.  

Back away from that part Wes, something is wrong.

I spent over an hour looking all over this lathe, reading the chart over the QC gearbox
and finally I started working though the ranges and measuring pitch.  I finally found a
combination that cut a 1.5 mm pitch but it isn't what the chart indicated.  This is on a
Servoshift Leblond.  I had the right change gear combination installed.

The moral of the story, if you are going thread something that really needs to not be
screwed up, either know your lathe or make a test pass on scrap to check your setup or do
both.

Wes


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Garlicdude  
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 More options Nov 8, 11:04 am
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
From: Garlicdude <pul...@garlic.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:04:16 -0800
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 11:04 am
Subject: Re: Trust but verify (metalworking not political)

Wes wrote:

> Read the charts, put the gears and levers in the right place, pick up the thread and damn,
> I'm cutting where I shouldn't be.  

> Back away from that part Wes, something is wrong.

> The moral of the story, if you are going thread something that really needs to not be
> screwed up, either know your lathe or make a test pass on scrap to check your setup or do
> both.

> Wes

Wes, If I'm picking up a thread like that I make a test pass above the major
dia. first to see if things look right.

Best,
Steve
--

Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude ©
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World

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Larry Jaques  
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 More options Nov 8, 3:59 pm
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
From: Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:59:42 -0800
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: Trust but verify (metalworking not political)
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0500, the infamous Wes
<clu...@lycos.com> scrawled the following:

>I'm trying to repair a loader for a machining cell.

Izzat anyting like a terrorist cell?

<hiding>

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The Smart Person learns from his mistakes.
  The Wise Person learns from the mistakes of others.
    And then there are all the rest of us...
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Richard J Kinch  
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 More options Nov 8, 4:27 pm
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From: Richard J Kinch <ki...@truetex.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:27:57 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: Trust but verify (metalworking not political)

Wes writes:
> ... or make a test pass on scrap to check your setup or do both.

Or make a "scratch cut".

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Don Foreman  
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 More options Nov 8, 5:17 pm
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
From: Don Foreman <dfore...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:17:36 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Trust but verify (metalworking not political)

Or do a ghost pass where the bit won't touch the metal but you can see
where it might.  

Bet you  won't forget that lesson any time soon!  


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Tim Wescott  
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 More options Nov 9, 7:11 am
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From: Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:11:44 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 9 2009 7:11 am
Subject: Re: Trust but verify (metalworking not political)

If there's some thread there already do "air threading" -- line the point
of the tool up with the valley (or point) of the thread you're cleaning
up and let 'er rip (or crank the thing by hand, as appropriate).

You know what to look for.

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www.wescottdesign.com


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