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Jon Elson  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 6:38 am
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking, alt.autos.dodge.trucks
From: Jon Elson <jmel...@artsci.wustl.edu>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:38:08 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 6:38 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

Ignoramus16919 wrote:
>Just spoke to a friend of my wife who is a car mechanic who makes
>money by fixing cars.

>He mentioned that it could well be a tranny problem.

>He advised me that once shit starts on Chryslers, that it only gets
>worse, and advised me to not do any repairs and to get rid of this
>truck as soon as possible.

>I am inclined to do just that.

>i

We just got rid of a 1998 Ram 3500B stretch extended van, that may or
may not have a similar drive train as your truck.  (5.9 L engine, auto
trans).  The transmission croaked at something like 89000 Miles, and they
rebuilt it for ONLY $3100!  We did get a "lifetime" warranty on the
rebuild, so if it ever blew AGAIN, we'd be covered.

Having had major transmission problems on our last THREE American-brand
cars in a ROW, I've pretty well sworn them off.  Meanwhile, I'm still
driving my 1989 Toyota Corolla station wagon with manual transaxle.
Maintenance on that one has run about $100/year, on average.  Some
years it requires ZERO maintenance whatsoever.  170,000 miles on the
original wter pump, alternator, the A/C refrigerant has NEVER been
even topped-up, etc.

It ought to be possible to isolate grinding noises to the transmission or
rear axle.  Any way you can jack the rear wheels off the ground?
If it is the transmission, you are in deep DOO-DOO, and he's definitely
right, if you can in good conscience dump the thing, do so.

If it is the axle, then I really don't see how some grinding in there is
going
to take the transmission with it.

Jon


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Ignoramus906  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 6:47 am
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From: Ignoramus906 <ignoramus...@NOSPAM.906.invalid>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:47:27 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 6:47 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

Jon, it is in the axle. The dealer offered a relatively sensible total
price of $1070 (that includes the $114 that they charged me to look at
it), so I decided to just have them do it.

i


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Anthony  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 7:10 am
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From: Anthony <tonytn3...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:10:42 GMT
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 7:10 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise
cnct...@naxs.com wrote in news:1159884644.482499.111160
@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Now drivin' a powerful, made in Canton Miss., Nissan Titan!  With Dana
> axles!

I believe the Dodge axles are Dana also.

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You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make
better idiots.

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Anthony  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 7:13 am
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From: Anthony <tonytn3...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:13:15 GMT
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 7:13 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise
Ignoramus906 <ignoramus...@NOSPAM.906.invalid> wrote in
news:br7pv.4jf.17.1@news.alt.net:

> Jon, it is in the axle. The dealer offered a relatively sensible total
> price of $1070 (that includes the $114 that they charged me to look at
> it), so I decided to just have them do it.

Ya, but you could have saved yourself $600 :)

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You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make
better idiots.

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Ignoramus906  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 7:23 am
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From: Ignoramus906 <ignoramus...@NOSPAM.906.invalid>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:23:58 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 7:23 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:13:15 GMT, Anthony <tonytn3...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus906 <ignoramus...@NOSPAM.906.invalid> wrote in
> news:br7pv.4jf.17.1@news.alt.net:

>> Jon, it is in the axle. The dealer offered a relatively sensible total
>> price of $1070 (that includes the $114 that they charged me to look at
>> it), so I decided to just have them do it.

> Ya, but you could have saved yourself $600 :)

Sincethey would charge me $114 for having "looked" at it, the amount
saved would be $486.

i


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Larry Jaques  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 10:31 am
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From: Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:31:55 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 10:31 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:23:58 +0000 (UTC), with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus906 <ignoramus...@NOSPAM.906.invalid> quickly quoth:

>On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:13:15 GMT, Anthony <tonytn3...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jon, it is in the axle. The dealer offered a relatively sensible total
>>> price of $1070 (that includes the $114 that they charged me to look at
>>> it), so I decided to just have them do it.

>> Ya, but you could have saved yourself $600 :)

>Sincethey would charge me $114 for having "looked" at it, the amount
>saved would be $486.

Yeah, you always get a great deal at the dealer. Feh!  Shoulda gone to
a real live nut builder, Ig. (Better prices/service/knowledge from
most.)

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BigIronRam  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 12:49 pm
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From: "BigIronRam" <BigIron...@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:49:58 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

"Anthony" <tonytn3...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:Xns9851AD938E4A4acziparle3sp835@216.77.188.18...

> cnct...@naxs.com wrote in news:1159884644.482499.111160
> @k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>> Now drivin' a powerful, made in Canton Miss., Nissan Titan!  With Dana
>> axles!

> I believe the Dodge axles are Dana also.

> --
> Anthony

 They were in the 2500 and 3500's until 2002.  With the new 2003 body also
brought American Axles.  1500's mostly use the the 9.25 corporate axle.
Good axle, bad bearings.  Chevrolet has also had lots of problems with their
1500 trucks and vans, bad bearings again.

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Ignoramus906  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 1:04 pm
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From: Ignoramus906 <ignoramus...@NOSPAM.906.invalid>
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 03:04:50 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

What about 2500 RAMs, are they also shoddily made or are they more
reliable?

i


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F. George McDuffee  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 2:20 pm
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From: F. George McDuffee <gmcduf...@mcduffee-associates.us>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:20:14 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:49:58 -0500, "BigIronRam"

==================
There appears to be no technology so mature that some suit can't
take a few cents out and turn the product into pure crap.  

Didn't the suits ever read the Midas story?  You are suposed to
turn things into *GOLD*, not crap.....

AFAIK the DANA corporation is operating under chapter 11 also.

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than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money
to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding,
is but swindling futurity on a large scale.
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Roger Shoaf  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 4:32 pm
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From: "Roger Shoaf" <sh...@nospamsyix.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:32:40 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

"Ignoramus906" <ignoramus...@NOSPAM.906.invalid> wrote in message

news:br7pv.4jf.17.1@news.alt.net...

>  The dealer offered a relatively sensible total
> price of $1070 (that includes the $114 that they charged me to look at
> it), so I decided to just have them do it.

So how much was a rear end from the wrecker?

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ninebal...@aol.com  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 9:17 pm
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From: ninebal...@aol.com
Date: 4 Oct 2006 04:17:11 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

How hard is it to fix a bad pinion bearing? Do the axels need to be
removed? Do the gears need to be removed? any special tools needed?

Thanks,

Hank <~~~has 01 Dakota with bad pinion bearing


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Larry Jaques  
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 More options Oct 4 2006, 11:01 pm
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From: Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:01:26 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 4 2006 11:01 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise
On 4 Oct 2006 04:17:11 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
ninebal...@aol.com quickly quoth:

>How hard is it to fix a bad pinion bearing? Do the axels need to be
>removed? Do the gears need to be removed? any special tools needed?

>Thanks,

>Hank <~~~has 01 Dakota with bad pinion bearing

Not too, yes, yes, and maybe. Get thee to your local library and see
if they have the Chilton repair manuals for your vehicle.

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 More options Oct 7 2006, 4:58 am
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:58:00 -0500
Subject: Re: UPDATE 5 on the Dodge pickup whining noise

Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di/ersify.com> wrote in article
<n2c7i297o8afcuipi569jjvf86frre2...@4ax.com>...

> On 4 Oct 2006 04:17:11 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
> ninebal...@aol.com quickly quoth:

> >How hard is it to fix a bad pinion bearing? Do the axels need to be
> >removed? Do the gears need to be removed? any special tools needed?

It's not too hard if you know what you are doing....

The axles must be removed so......

the gears can be removed, in order to.....

set the pinion depth and pinion bearing preload.........

which requires special tools.

Even if you felt confident enough to use the "+" or "-" markings on the
pinion gear to set the depth. you really STILL need the pinion to spin
freely to set and correctly measure the bearing preload with an inch-pound
torque wrench.....

and you cannot do that while the ring gear is meshed with the pinion
gear......

so, the gears must come out.


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