On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:02:17 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote: >In article <546te5hv4r7egmaaomlpsujiag5oe7m...@4ax.com>, >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... >> So who do you wish to murder or steal from today? >> What lies will you tell?
In article <aqu0f5lr6vjqj70stdckttio51ml2vv...@4ax.com>, Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:02:17 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <546te5hv4r7egmaaomlpsujiag5oe7m...@4ax.com>, > >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... > >> So who do you wish to murder or steal from today? > >> What lies will you tell?
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:05:51 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote: >In article <aqu0f5lr6vjqj70stdckttio51ml2vv...@4ax.com>, >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:02:17 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >In article <546te5hv4r7egmaaomlpsujiag5oe7m...@4ax.com>, >> >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... >> >> So who do you wish to murder or steal from today? >> >> What lies will you tell?
>> >Projecting again are you ?
>> Run out of lies?
>Why, I'm not telling lies, are you ?
How many other delusions do you have? How long have you had them?
> >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:02:17 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >In article <546te5hv4r7egmaaomlpsujiag5oe7m...@4ax.com>, > >> >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... > >> >> So who do you wish to murder or steal from today? > >> >> What lies will you tell?
> >> >Projecting again are you ?
> >> Run out of lies?
> >Why, I'm not telling lies, are you ?
> How many other delusions do you have? > How long have you had them?
>> >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:02:17 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >In article <546te5hv4r7egmaaomlpsujiag5oe7m...@4ax.com>, >> >> >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... >> >> >> So who do you wish to murder or steal from today? >> >> >> What lies will you tell?
>> >> >Projecting again are you ?
>> >> Run out of lies?
>> >Why, I'm not telling lies, are you ?
>> How many other delusions do you have? >> How long have you had them?
> >> >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:02:17 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >In article <546te5hv4r7egmaaomlpsujiag5oe7m...@4ax.com>, > >> >> >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... > >> >> >> So who do you wish to murder or steal from today? > >> >> >> What lies will you tell?
> >> >> >Projecting again are you ?
> >> >> Run out of lies?
> >> >Why, I'm not telling lies, are you ?
> >> How many other delusions do you have? > >> How long have you had them?
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:00:05 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >> >> >Yup
> >> >> What meds don't work?
> >> >> BTW, You are lying again.
> >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >Sure..
> Found those "WMDs" yet?
This is one of the "discussions" I got into with Gunner. The only way he could say that militarily-significant amounts of WMDs were found was by citing an article stating that the Obama Administration had classified high-explosives as WMDs. Following that reasoning, every single country in the world has massive amounts of WMDs.
There were a handful of old shells found that contained severely degraded sarin and mustard gas, but those were determined by our military to be unuseable by the time we invaded in 2003. The shells had been manufactured for the Iran-Iraq war (1980-88). The degredation products are toxic, yes, but nowhere nearly as deadly as the fresh active agent.
It is one of those failed rationalizations for invasion of a country that had nothing to do with the terrorist attacts on 9/11/01.
And we knew they had them because the Reagan Administration was supporting Iraq against the new Islamic Revolution in Iran. We helped devise ways of getting the chemical and biologic weapons to Iraq for use in that war.
Is it any real wonder why Iran thinks we're a bunch of assholes? -- Tin Lizzie "To delight in war is a merit in the soldier, a dangerous quality in the captain, and a positive crime in the statesman." - George Santayana
> > This is one of the "discussions" I got into with Gunner.
> Stupid nym-changing trolls like you don't "get into discussion" > You just blather nonsense and imagine that you've stated something usefull
Nym changing? I've used this same nym for years. It's the only nym I have. Who else do you think I am? I have changed the sig below my nym a time or two, but even that doesn't happen very often. Hell, I'm a relative newcomer to the metalworking ng.
Would you care to blather more nonsense now?
-- Tin Lizzie "Elephant: A mouse built to government specifications."-Lazarus Long
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:39:08 -0800, TinLizziedl <noth...@donttry.com> wrote:
>This is one of the "discussions" I got into with Gunner. The only way >he could say that militarily-significant amounts of WMDs were found was >by citing an article stating that the Obama Administration had >classified high-explosives as WMDs. Following that reasoning, every >single country in the world has massive amounts of WMDs.
Cites?
Or did you simply get the low bid on a dumptruck load of bullshit?
>> In article <g948f5trnsfthui065bikktu1gq3nbe...@4ax.com>, >> Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>> > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:00:05 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> > >> >> >Yup
>> > >> >> What meds don't work?
>> > >> >> BTW, You are lying again.
>> > >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> > >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> > >Sure..
>> > Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> Sure did.. >> Its a bitch huh ?
> 'Whining Mangy Demmocrats'? They are all over the place. :(
IOW That's another clear "No!" then.
What are you going to do about the liars?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident [ It is not simply that there is a different story as to what happened; it is that no attack happened that night. [...] In truth, Hanoi's navy was engaged in nothing that night but the salvage of two of the boats damaged on August 2 ]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMDs_in_Iraq [ On October 6, 2004, the head of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), Charles Duelfer, announced to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that the group found no evidence that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had produced and stockpiled any weapons of mass destruction since 1991, when UN sanctions were imposed. ] -- Cliff
> >> >> > > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:00:05 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >> >> > > >> >> >Yup
> >> >> > > >> >> What meds don't work?
> >> >> > > >> >> BTW, You are lying again.
> >> >> > > >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >> >> > > >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >> >> > > >Sure..
> >> >> > > Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >> >> > Sure did.. > >> >> > Its a bitch huh ?
> >> >> 'Whining Mangy Demmocrats'? They are all over the place. :(
> >> >Point > >> >Set > >> >Match
> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
> >Found you havn't we ? > >You Whining Mangy Demmocrat
> So the answer is no. > You dumbass..you believed that shit! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.
>> >> >> > > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:00:05 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> >> >> > > >> >> >Yup
>> >> >> > > >> >> What meds don't work?
>> >> >> > > >> >> BTW, You are lying again.
>> >> >> > > >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> >> >> > > >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> >> >> > > >Sure..
>> >> >> > > Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> >> >> > Sure did.. >> >> >> > Its a bitch huh ?
>> >> >> 'Whining Mangy Demmocrats'? They are all over the place. :(
>> >> >Point >> >> >Set >> >> >Match
>> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>> >Found you havn't we ? >> >You Whining Mangy Demmocrat
>> So the answer is no. >> You dumbass..you believed that shit! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. >We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass >destruction program." > President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
>"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass >destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and >he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." > Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
>"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical >weapons throughout his country." > Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
>"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are >confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and >biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to >build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence >reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." > Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
>"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show >that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological >weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear >program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, >including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left >unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage >biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear >weapons." > Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.
Dude...if you are going to give them Demoncrat quotes on WMD..give em all of them
Simply cut and past and send them along to slap like a used condom in the face of the Leftards
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others
"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002
"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998
"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998
"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002
"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002
"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998
"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002
"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven
>>> >> >> > > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:00:05 -0800, tankfixer >>> >> >> > > <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>> >> >> > > >> >> >Yup
>>> >> >> > > >> >> What meds don't work?
>>> >> >> > > >> >> BTW, You are lying again.
>>> >> >> > > >> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>> >> >> > > >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>> >> >> > > >Sure..
>>> >> >> > > Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>> >> >> > Sure did.. >>> >> >> > Its a bitch huh ?
>>> >> >> 'Whining Mangy Demmocrats'? They are all over the place. :(
>>> >> >Point >>> >> >Set >>> >> >Match
>>> >> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>> >Found you havn't we ? >>> >You Whining Mangy Demmocrat
>>> So the answer is no. >>> You dumbass..you believed that shit! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. >>We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass >>destruction program." >> President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
>>"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass >>destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and >>he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." >> Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
>>"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical >>weapons throughout his country." >> Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
>>"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are >>confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and >>biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to >>build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence >>reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." >> Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
>>"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show >>that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological >>weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear >>program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, >>including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left >>unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage >>biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear >>weapons." >> Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.
> Dude...if you are going to give them Demoncrat quotes on WMD..give em > all of them
Yeah bummer for the gummer that not one of those launched an invasion of a country based on that bullshit.
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