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  <title type="text">rec.crafts.jewelry Google Group</title>
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  Jewelry making and gemology. (Moderated)
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  <updated>2009-07-02T07:45:02Z</updated>
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  <name>Raeesa</name>
  <email>raees...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-07-02T07:45:02Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">[ADVERT?] please have fun with these links</title>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://gold-4-u.blogspot.com/2009/06/gold-nugget-of-world.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://gold-4-u.blogspot.com/2009/06/gold-parker-pen.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://gold-4-u.blogspot.com/2009/06/gold-souk-in-gulf.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://gold-4-u.blogspot.com/2009/06/attractive-gold-engagement-ring_18.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://gold-4-u.blogspot.com/2009/06/diamond-and-golg-bracelete.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <name>Nick</name>
  <email>yuchungt...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-30T18:57:37Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Anyone like jade here?</title>
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  Anybody like jade? real natural jadeite, not fake jade, not nephrite &lt;br&gt; Some nice jade carving &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://aboutjade.com/download/file.php?id=110&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://aboutjade.com/download/file.php?id=107&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://aboutjade.com/download/file.php?id=89&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Peter W. Rowe</name>
  <email>rec.crafts.jewe...@earthlink.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-27T17:10:46Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:52:18 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ted Frater &lt;br&gt; And that, of course, remains an interesting question. My owh suspicion is that &lt;br&gt; those smiths were using methods that differ from our own. Perhaps tools didn&#39;t &lt;br&gt; allow as efficient working, so metal wasn&#39;t being &amp;quot;moved&amp;quot; as quickly as with
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  <author>
  <name>Ted Frater</name>
  <email>ted.fra...@virgin.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-27T16:52:18Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  Arguing is pointless? for its own sake? yes. &lt;br&gt; Im not trying to argue with anyone, As I said Im confused ie not clear &lt;br&gt; if you follow, how the LaTene smiths made an alloy of copper and tin, &lt;br&gt; and were able to forge out an ingot to less thn a MM over such large &lt;br&gt; areas, based on the analysis ofthe original metal.
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  <name>Abrasha</name>
  <email>abra...@abrasha.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T23:56:48Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.crafts.jewelry/browse_thread/thread/30889e77a58bbce8/ab4612605fb51120?show_docid=ab4612605fb51120"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  You are wrong, and I pointed out why. &lt;br&gt; Arguing with you is pointless. &lt;br&gt; [[moderator&#39;s edit. sentence deleted to conform with charter restrictions.]] &lt;br&gt; Why am I not surprised?!?
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  <author>
  <name>Hanuman</name>
  <email>ganok...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T17:18:06Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.crafts.jewelry/browse_thread/thread/ead9c164a7f11908/7ad42fb99d621ba7?show_docid=7ad42fb99d621ba7"/>
  <title type="text">Survey Invitation: Tech Tips: Jewelry Making Made Easier</title>
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  The Ganoksin Project &lt;br&gt; S i n c e 1 9 9 6 &lt;br&gt; Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Techniques &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.ganoksin.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------- &lt;br&gt; Greetings; &lt;br&gt; Charles Lewton-Brain is the currently working on the third in the &lt;br&gt; popular &amp;quot;Orchid in Print&amp;quot; book series &amp;quot;Tech Tips: Jewelry Making
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  <author>
  <name>Peter W. Rowe</name>
  <email>rec.crafts.jewe...@earthlink.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T07:48:41Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:22:09 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Carl 1 Lucky Texan &lt;br&gt; XRF analysis basically looks at the intensity of a selective spectra emitted by &lt;br&gt; the sample&#39;s surface, with any given element responding differently. With &lt;br&gt; computer processing, it then is possible to derive a quantitative analysis of
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  <name>Carl 1 Lucky Texan</name>
  <email>alcky...@swbell.not</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T07:22:09Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  I wonder if the piece was analyzed by X-ray Fluoresence? Perhaps that &lt;br&gt; yields a volume-type ratio? Or did they physically &#39;assay&#39; a piece? &lt;br&gt; I dunno &lt;br&gt; carl
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  <name>R T Smith</name>
  <email>rts_...@yahoo.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T07:21:51Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  18k. &lt;br&gt; much &lt;br&gt; alloy &lt;br&gt; they &lt;br&gt; him &lt;br&gt; to &lt;br&gt; to &lt;br&gt; or &lt;br&gt; didnt &lt;br&gt; the &lt;br&gt; to &lt;br&gt; tin &lt;br&gt; 1 unit volume of tin plus 9 units volume of copper don&#39;t result in 10 units &lt;br&gt; volume of alloy when melted together. However, 1 unit weight of tin and 9 &lt;br&gt; units weight of copper could be expected to result in 10 units weight of &lt;br&gt; copper/tin alloy if evaporation and splatter losses could be prevented.
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  <name>Hanuman</name>
  <email>ganok...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T07:21:30Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">[Ganoksin] [Issue #170] Tips From The Jeweler&#39;s Bench</title>
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  The Ganoksin Project &lt;br&gt; S i n c e 1 9 9 6 &lt;br&gt; Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Techniques &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.ganoksin.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; The Gem and Jewelry World&#39;s Foremost Resource on The Internet. &lt;br&gt; Open to the public, Free of Charge! &lt;br&gt; Tips From The Jeweler&#39;s Bench - Circulation: 45,000 &lt;br&gt; View this issue in colors:
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  <name>Hanuman</name>
  <email>ganok...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T07:21:23Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">[Ganoksin] [Issue #169] Tips From The Jeweler&#39;s Bench</title>
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  The Ganoksin Project &lt;br&gt; S i n c e 1 9 9 6 &lt;br&gt; Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Techniques &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.ganoksin.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; The Gem and Jewelry World&#39;s Foremost Resource on The Internet. &lt;br&gt; Open to the public, Free of Charge! &lt;br&gt; Tips From The Jeweler&#39;s Bench - Circulation: 45,000 &lt;br&gt; View this issue in colors:
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  <name>Hanuman</name>
  <email>ganok...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T07:21:15Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">[Ganoksin] [Issue #168] Tips From The Jeweler&#39;s Bench</title>
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  The Ganoksin Project &lt;br&gt; S i n c e 1 9 9 6 &lt;br&gt; Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Techniques &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.ganoksin.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; The Gem and Jewelry World&#39;s Foremost Resource on The Internet. &lt;br&gt; Open to the public, Free of Charge! &lt;br&gt; Tips From The Jeweler&#39;s Bench - Circulation: 45,000 &lt;br&gt; View this issue in colors:
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  <author>
  <name>Peter W. Rowe</name>
  <email>rec.crafts.jewe...@earthlink.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T02:31:10Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:10:41 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ted Frater &lt;br&gt; Why does this confuse you, Ted? It&#39;s clear enough. The ratio is slightly &lt;br&gt; approximate, Perhaps it varies from place to place in the item. But it&#39;s &lt;br&gt; between 9 and 10 percent tin, and 90 to 91 percent copper. Nothing there should &lt;br&gt; be confusing. They state there are trace amounts of arsenic and lead, but at
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  <author>
  <name>Ted Frater</name>
  <email>ted.fra...@virgin.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-26T02:10:41Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Math</title>
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  Ill reply on the basis of memory which is still resonably reliable!. &lt;br&gt; From what I recall, there were minute ie less than .05% of arsenic and &lt;br&gt; lead in their analysis. &lt;br&gt; Now im still confused,because if the analysis is by percent, ie 9 to 10 &lt;br&gt; parts of tin to 90 to 91% copper. &lt;br&gt; Now this has to be by volume, ie 1 part of tin to 9 parts of copper
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  <author>
  <name>Peter W. Rowe</name>
  <email>rec.crafts.jewe...@earthlink.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-06-25T15:48:27Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: choosing tools for working jasper/chalcedony/quartz</title>
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  On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:31:45 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry sunrainor &lt;br&gt; Check these definitions. Last I heard, Rhyolite is an igneous rock. Though &lt;br&gt; silica rich, it is not jasper, nor related to it. Jasper, like other &lt;br&gt; chalcedonies, is a sedimentary material. Now, you could have rhyolites with &lt;br&gt; voids, bubbles, etc, form, which later would have jasper or other chalcedonies
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