I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes for them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the Campy refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose I could grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, but that doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an old school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm going to order these from VO:
> I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes for > them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the Campy > refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose I could > grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, but that > doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
> I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an old > school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm going to > order these from VO: > http://velo-orange.com/voadbrsh.html
DiaCompe's dovetail doesn't match Campagnolo's, as you found.
I recommend Kool Stop Eagle II. If you want to use your removable inserts, get some vintage Mafac holders.
>> I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes for >> them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the Campy >> refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose I >> could grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, >> but that doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
>> I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an >> old school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm >> going to order these from VO: >> http://velo-orange.com/voadbrsh.html
> DiaCompe's dovetail doesn't match Campagnolo's, as you found.
> I recommend Kool Stop Eagle II. If you want to use your removable > inserts, get some vintage Mafac holders.
I'm actually trying to replace some Eagle IIs. I had ordered some but threaded stud ones showed up on my doorstep instead of the smooth stud ones I'd ordered :(
where the heck would one find Mafac holders? Don't tell me... you've got a drawer full of 'em?
I know, I'm weird, but sometimes the little touches make a big difference (to me.) Kind of like looking for a vintage Sun Super Tach for my car instead of going to the parts store and buying the "Sunpro Super Tach II" that you can buy all day every day for $40...
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does the QK mount salmon rubbers ?
DOLENNA ! where the XXXX are muh brake pads ??? first long 29er trip (aborted) we lost a QR nut then tore the deray off the pad assembly is next fersure. pass the speaker magnet...
salmon rubbers in QK ???
very impressive, Eagle - anyone want a 1 pound bag of OEM 10 speed pads ?
>>> I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes >>> for them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the >>> Campy refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose >>> I could grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, >>> but that doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
>>> I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an >>> old school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm >>> going to order these from VO: >>> http://velo-orange.com/voadbrsh.html
>> DiaCompe's dovetail doesn't match Campagnolo's, as you found.
>> I recommend Kool Stop Eagle II. If you want to use your removable >> inserts, get some vintage Mafac holders.
> I'm actually trying to replace some Eagle IIs. I had ordered some but > threaded stud ones showed up on my doorstep instead of the smooth stud > ones I'd ordered :(
> where the heck would one find Mafac holders? Don't tell me... you've > got a drawer full of 'em?
> I know, I'm weird, but sometimes the little touches make a big > difference (to me.) Kind of like looking for a vintage Sun Super Tach > for my car instead of going to the parts store and buying the "Sunpro > Super Tach II" that you can buy all day every day for $40...
> I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes for > them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the Campy > refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose I could > grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, but that > doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
> I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an old > school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm going to > order these from VO:
> > I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes for > > them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the Campy > > refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose I could > > grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, but that > > doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
> > I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an old > > school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm going to > > order these from VO:
> > I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes for > > them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the Campy > > refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose I could > > grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, but that > > doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
> > I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an old > > school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm going to > > order these from VO:
> > > I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes for > > > them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than the Campy > > > refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I suppose I could > > > grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a setscrew, but that > > > doesn't solve the problem of not being able to refill them.)
> > > I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep an old > > > school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" I'm going to > > > order these from VO:
> Yup, exactly! Are those still available for sale anywhere?
Fleabay, if you're lucky. Eagle IIs are the best smooth post pad that's commonly available. That would be my choice--as the VO holders might look sharp and work fine--the EIIs have something like twice the material contacting the rim and last ages.
>> I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes >> for them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than >> the Campy refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I >> suppose I could grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a >> setscrew, but that doesn't solve the problem of not being able to >> refill them.) >> I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep >> an old school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" >> I'm going to order these from VO:
No good. Unless you are a slave to fashion, the Kool-Stop Continental with salmon compound is the best brake pad you can find. It cannot separate from its attachment bolt and it is secured by a self locking nut. See illustration:
> >> I picked up some NOS Dia-Compe cantilever shoes and had high hopes > >> for them, but when I looked at them closely they are longer than > >> the Campy refills, and aren't refillable without modifications (I > >> suppose I could grind one end off and then drill and tap them for a > >> setscrew, but that doesn't solve the problem of not being able to > >> refill them.)
> >> I want to use KS Salmon pads on my bike, and would prefer to keep > >> an old school look. If the answer to the above question is "no" > >> I'm going to order these from VO:
> No good. Unless you are a slave to fashion, the Kool-Stop Continental > with salmon compound is the best brake pad you can find. It cannot > separate from its attachment bolt and it is secured by a self locking > nut.
> > Unless you are a slave to fashion, the Kool-Stop Continental > > with salmon compound is the best brake pad you can find. It cannot > > separate from its attachment bolt and it is secured by a self locking > > nut.
> It's the same compound.
I'm not so sure. Scott-Matthauser pads had a greater tendency to melt under extreme loads than Kool Stop Salmon pads. Whether this was due to the greater thickness of the Scott pads or the aluminum backing cast into the Kool Stop pads is unclear, but it might be a simple matter of differences between their otherwise similar compounds.
> > > Unless you are a slave to fashion, the Kool-Stop Continental > > > with salmon compound is the best brake pad you can find. It cannot > > > separate from its attachment bolt and it is secured by a self locking > > > nut.
> > It's the same compound.
> I'm not so sure. Scott-Matthauser pads had a greater tendency to melt > under extreme loads than Kool Stop Salmon pads. Whether this was due > to the greater thickness of the Scott pads or the aluminum backing > cast into the Kool Stop pads is unclear, but it might be a simple > matter of differences between their otherwise similar compounds.
> Chalo
I expect that varience in the production process due to the extra thermal capacity of the metal in the Kool Stop created differences in stability of the rubber due to a more prolonged time of vulcanization with the Kool Stops.
Chalo Colina wrote: >>> Unless you are a slave to fashion, the Kool-Stop Continental with >>> salmon compound is the best brake pad you can find. It cannot >>> separate from its attachment bolt and it is secured by a self >>> locking nut. >> It's the same compound. > I'm not so sure. Scott-Matthauser pads had a greater tendency to > melt under extreme loads than Kool Stop Salmon pads. Whether this > was due to the greater thickness of the Scott pads or the aluminum > backing cast into the Kool Stop pads is unclear, but it might be a > simple matter of differences between their otherwise similar > compounds.
Melting was my experience early on when S-M was offering his clumsy "pair of pliers" brake caliper and slip-in pads that melted. That is how I got to Kool-Stop. I still have one and remnants in a collection of arcane hardware.
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