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[l/m 6/5/2002] C. Fletcher/R. Carson /Eco-warriors Distilled Wisdom (8/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 8
If you are just beginning activities like hiking, perhaps some of the best
books written on the subject are those by Colin Fletcher. He has tried to
keep his editions current with trends such as equipment, but his spirit
comes through in books like The Complete Walker (his beginner guide)
and The Thousand Mile Summer (walking the length of California

[l/m 7/28/2008] Phone/address list Distilled Wisdom (7/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:20:01 UT

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
7/ Phone / address list *THIS ONE*
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / advice and Rachel Carson
9/ Water Filter wisdom
10/ Volunteer Work
11/ Snake bite
12/ Netiquette
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.

Mountain Biker Fatally Injures Pedestrian, then Flees!

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:55:05 UT

How many times have we heard or seen behaviour like this?! I've,
frankly, lost count.
Mike
[link]
Reward issued for hit and run bicyclist
Sunday, December 06, 2009
CENTER CITY - December 5, 2009 (WPVI) -- Family, friends and coworkers
still reeling from the sudden loss of their loved one hope a hefty

ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Is Wanted for RAPE!

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:24:55 UT

[link]
Rapist rode off on yellow mountain bike in Easton
Saturday, December 05, 2009, 07:00
Police are appealing for help to identify a man they want to talk to
about a rape in Baptist Road. The assault took place at about 9.30pm

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[l/m 9/5/2003] summary of one past topic Not Distilled wisdom (6/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:20:02 UT

Panel 6
THIS IS NOT A DISTILLED WISDOM FILE. It is a running summary
of one topic discussed in this news group since inception.
Most readers have opinions pro and con, we do not attempt to summarize
all these here.
<OUTLINE TO GO HERE>
The following is a summary of points made in five separate rounds of

ANOTHER Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!!!!!

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:36:31 UT

Notice a trend here?????
Mike
[link]
Man robs bank, flees on mountain bike
December 4, 3:37 PMColumbia Crime ExaminerKimathi LewisPrevious
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[l/m 12/11/2007] summary of past topics Distilled non-wisdom (5/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 5
A summary of topics discussed in this news group since inception.
Most have opinions pro and con, we do not attempt to summarize these here.
Topics: (many topics discussed in other groups instead e.g., r.b.p.)
See Special section on panel 12 (netiquette) about pyramid scheme
(Dave Rhodes) and Craig Shergold post card posts.

[l/m 7/8/2003] learning (2) Distilled wisdom (4/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 4 Learning, part 2
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments) <* THIS PANEL *>
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion
7/ Phone / address lists
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / Rachel Carson / Foreman and Hayduke

[l/m 9/6/2006] learning (I) Distilled wisdom (3/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 3 Learning, part 1
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
3/ Learning I <* THIS PANEL *>
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments)
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion
7/ Phone / address lists
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / Rachel Carson / Foreman and Hayduke

ANOTHER Criminal Mountain Biker!

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:34:51 UT

[link]
Woman fights off attacker on Stevens Creek Trail
By Diana Samuels
Daily News Staff Writer
Posted: 11/30/2009 09:57:10 PM PST
Updated: 12/01/2009 09:42:47 AM PST
A 27-year-old Mountain View woman was grabbed by a man while jogging
on Stevens Creek Trail on Sunday afternoon and managed to fight off

[l/m 12/4/95] Backcountry Ethics Distilled Wisdom (2/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:20:01 UT

Distilled wisdom (Panel 2)
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
2/ Ethics <* THIS PANEL *>
3/ Learning I
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments)
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion
7/ Phone / address lists
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / Rachel Carson / Foreman and Hayduke

[l/m 5/4/2009] rec.backC DISCLAIMER -- Distilled wisdom (1/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:20:01 UT

Archive-name: backcountry-faq/part1
news.answers: follows Disclaimer.
Distilled wisdom (panel 1)
This is rec.backcountry. And the poster is the assistant to the r.b.nimng
ranger (he's a ranger, not the net.police or net.sheriff as some would like).
Read the warnings, read the disclaimer, and if you are reading this in

Re: FWD: Massive, Unchecked Immigration will DESTROY our Future!!-

coledenk...@gmail.com (climber) — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:09:56 UT

It is depressing that enviornmental groups are not leading the fight
to limit population growth via
immigration controls.
climber

ANOTHER Serious Injury Due to Mountain Biking

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:59:52 UT

I am crying inside as we speek. I blew out my knee in a race Sunday...
I can tell it will never be the same...Even post surgery,I've decided
that I can not afford future injuries and potentialy end my carrier as
a union carpenter... Or worse, loose everything I own...So I am
listing my Baby for sale to the group... It is an 08 Specialized

"Copter rescues mountain biker, 50, after crash "

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:15:35 UT

[link]
November 29, 2009 11:49 AM
Copter rescues mountain biker, 50, after crash
By ERIKA I. RITCHIE
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
NEWPORT COAST – A 50-year-old mountain biker was airlifted today after
going over his handlebars while riding a trail at Crystal Cove State

Re: ANOTHER Serious Mountain Biking "Accident"

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:58:44 UT

THEODORE KACZYNSKI: The Unabomber Manifesto: Industrial Society and Its Future

wis...@yahoo.com — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:55:48 UT

Well worth revisting in view of todays societal and
economic degradation. (to say nothing of the
environmental disaster do to increasing populations)
Ted (just plain ted,not the writer)

[l/m 7/30/2008] References Distilled Wisdom (28/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 28
<most pot hole filling [reformatting, citation completion] welcome>
Related news groups:
rec.arts.books.*
rec.arts.books.reviews (moderated)
alt.books.reviews
REFERENCES
References to whitewater are now in rec.boats.paddle
Climbing references will shortly be moved to rec.climbing
Scouting references moved to rec.scouting

The Typical Mountain Biker Demonstrates Their Attitude

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:42:35 UT

[link]

[l/m 2/17/2009] Film/Cinema Distilled wisdom (27/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:20:02 UT

Panel 27
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
27/ Films/cinema references <* THIS PANEL *>
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER
2/ Ethics
3/ Learning I
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments)
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion
7/ Phone / address lists

[l/m 5/30/2006] Related news groups & web info: Distilled Wisdom (26/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

At this time, this group (r.b.) is not mail gatewayed.
If you wish to test post, you should realize that various little test groups
exist like misc.test, ba.test, ca.test, etc. The specific advantage of
these test groups is that some sites have automatic daemons which mail
ACKnowledgements back to you. Make REAL posts as a test in this group.

[l/m 9/7/2004] High tech employment, a romantic notion DW (25/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 25
So you want a job in the backcountry?
What are you doing in computers?
Don't expect to find anything in misc.jobs.offered.
GO visit a job placement office.
4. There are many senses of the word "wealth," not all of them material.
I'm not talking about trying to make a deep philosophical point here

[l/m 6/29/94] What is "natural?" Distilled Wisdom (24/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 24
A common thread which underlies the fundamental values in
all backcountry discussions is the issues of what is "natural"
and what is its relation to the "human" state? For most people,
the "woods" offer a place to see the natural world. That world
IS "reality." That is where the recreative effect takes places.

[l/m 1/22/2008] Song Distilled Wisdom (23/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:20:02 UT

Panel 23
...
They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum
Then they charged all the people a dollar and a half just to see them.
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got till its gone.
They paved paradise and put down a parking lot.
--Joni Mitchell
Schnell (To the tune of the Marine Corps hymn):

ANOTHER Criminal Mountain Biker!

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:19:25 UT

[link]
Police Searching For Robbery Suspect On Bike
Last Update: 11/21 2:47 pm
Slideshow CINCINNATI -- Police are looking for a suspect who robbed
two victims Friday.
The robbery happened at Ninth and Race Street around 2:00 p.m.

[l/m 4/24/2006] Babies and Kids Distilled Wisdom (22/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:20:02 UT

DRAFT
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
22/ Babies and Kids <* THIS PANEL *>
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment
26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking
27/ Films/cinema references
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER

Tara Llanes, a champion downhill mountain biker, suffered a horrific crash while racing at the Jeep King of the Mountain event

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:25:58 UT

If this can happen to a "champion", ordinary mountain bikers are at an
even greater risk....
Mike
[link]
2010 Race for Tara date announced
Published: Nov. 21, 2009
Press Release
The mountain bike park at Northstar-at-Tahoe resort will host the Race

[l/m 8/16/96] AMS Distilled Wisdom (21/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:20:02 UT

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
21/ AMS <* THIS PANEL *>
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment
26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking
27/ Films/cinema references
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER

ANOTHER Serious Injury Caused by Mountain Biking!

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:24:02 UT

So much for the alleged "health benefits" of mountain biking....
Mike
[link]
Hincapie leads charity ride
Article published:
November 19, 13:07
By:
Hedwig Kröner
$15,000 raised to cover medical expenses for injured cyclist

[l/m 6/24/2009] Telling questions r.b. Turing test DW: (20/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:20:02 UT

Descriptive portion of the test
True or false:
New York is where I'd rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay.
I just adore a penthouse view. Darling I love you, but give me Park Avenue.
Fresh Air...
Times square...
You are my wife
Good bye city life
Green Acres We are THERE!!!!
If True, hit 'n' now.

[l/m 6/2/2008] Lyme Disease: Distilled Wisdom (19/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Reply-To: dmil...@rodan.acs.syr.edu "Daniel Miller"
The most current recommended site for information is the
Centers for Disease Control (CDC):
[link]
[link]
Accept no substitutes. 8^)
See
Please note that this vaccine has not been manufactured since 2002 and

[l/m 5/2/2007] Oak/Ivy Distilled Wisdom (18/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:20:02 UT

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question <* THIS PANEL *>
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question
20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test
21/ AMS
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment

Re: The scary mathematics behind energy depletion and population growth

martin.secrest...@gmail.com (martin) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:11:53 UT

On Nov 16, 10:03 am, GreenLifeInnovators <p...@green-life-
America adds appx. 1 million legal immigrants per year and who knows
how many illegals.
Environmental disaster ahead.
Martin

[l/m 4/12/2007] Information on bears: Distilled Wisdom (17/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
17/ Information about bears <* THIS PANEL *>
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question
20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test (under construction)
21/ AMS
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)

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[l/m 6/15/2009] Morbid backcountry/memorial: Distilled Wisdom (16/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 16
The section on statistics is going to be replaced by a reference.....
to shorten this panel.
Calibration:
Hey America, what time is it?
Every 2 seconds a criminal offense
Every 12 seconds a burglary
Every 17 seconds a violent crime
Every 20 seconds vehicle is stolen

[l/m 8/17/2009] Leopold's post Distilled Wisdom (15/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

mike.vande...@gmail.com (Mike Vandeman) — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:41:54 UT

[link]
A truly green exit after a bank heist
By Sam Wood
Inquirer Staff Writer
Kenneth Pagan may be a bank robber and considered "armed and
dangerous" by the FBI, but he cares about the environment.
As proof, the FBI yesterday released surveillance photos showing Pagan

[l/m 4/16/01] Leopold's Land Ethic Distilled Wisdom (14/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 14
If we had in the city six vacant lots available to youngsters of a
certain neighborhood for playing ball, it might be 'development' to
build houses on the first, and the second, and the third, and the fourth,
and even on the fifth, but when we build houses on the last one, we forget
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[l/m 8/22/95] Questions on conditions and travel DW (13/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 13
Travel questions:
"...the guided tour was profoundly depressing. When we told
our guide that we didn't want to go to all the tourist places
he took us instead to the places where they take tourists
who say that they don't want to go to tourist palces.
These places are, of course, full of tourists.

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y_...@hotmail.com (y_p_w) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:46:40 UT

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bit.
I've got a few waterproof-breathable pants with integrated gaiters
(sometimes called "snow skirts"?) built into the bottom. There's one
particular pair I like that fits well but might be a tad (may 1/2") on
the short side. When I wear them the hems line up right about at my

Happy Birthday, Charlie Manson!

wis...@yahoo.com — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:39:46 UT

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:01:24 -0800 (PST), Dänk 1010011010
If Mr. Manson is refering to the federal government as now constituted
I'm in total agreement!
ted

Western Canadian Adventure Travel Website Poised For Over 100,000 Page Reads in 2009!

yagotta...@gmail.com (Bob Kenyon) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:03:59 UT

When the Western Canadian Online Outdoors News, re-branded and became
Ya’Gotta, in 2006, they never expected the new name and domain
([link]), to have such unexpected increase in traffic.
“After the re-branding, we had over 63,000 page views in 2007.” says
Ya’Gotta’s publisher, Bob Kenyon. “The next year, in 2008, we had

[l/m 8/12/96] Netiquette: Distilled Wisdom (12/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 12
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
12/ Netiquette <* THIS PANEL *>
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.
16/ Morbid backcountry/memorial
17/ Information about bears
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question

Central Ohio Mountaineering Society

13pe...@gmail.com (Gaijin) — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:39:00 UT

[link]

Beware - Child Molester

nob...@mixmaster.it (George Orwell) — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:31:39 UT

Beware:
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