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Re: very warm natural fibers

hlill...@juno.com (hlillywh@juno.com) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:26:13 UT

Maybe the fancy wool designed to make you look in style but certainly
not all wool. I have wool shirts, socks, pants etc and I just throw
them in the washing machine on cold, then hang them up to dry. No
problem with shrinkage that way.
Hint: if you do that, I understand that a spoonful of olive oil in the

Re: very warm natural fibers

f...@btpost.net (Bruce in alaska) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:19:33 UT

In article <20091108160627.B42EA3F...@gre x.org>,
My Winter Outdoor tops are made up from a Rain-stop Nylon Shell, over a
Wool Shirt or Sweater, that is either Fleece Lined, or I wear a Fleece
lined Flannel Shirt under it. Cotton Wool blend Watch-cap with Face
Shield, and Thermal bottoms, or Fleece lined pants, over Carharts, with

Re: very warm natural fibers

p...@grex.org (Graven Water) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:06:27 UT

I bought several thin merino wool sweaters. They aren't at all scratchy.
They're soft enough that you can use them as a pajama top. They were at
Target (!) They're guys' sweaters.
I was looking for fluffy wool sweaters, but I didn't find any. But these
thin ones, especially if you wear two of them, will probably be enough for

[l/m 6/5/2002] C. Fletcher/R. Carson /Eco-warriors Distilled Wisdom (8/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

Panel 8
If you are just beginning activities like hiking, perhaps some of the best
books written on the subject are those by Colin Fletcher. He has tried to
keep his editions current with trends such as equipment, but his spirit
comes through in books like The Complete Walker (his beginner guide)
and The Thousand Mile Summer (walking the length of California

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

lever...@linkpendium.com (Wolf Leverich) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:19:45 UT

Yup, you're right.
No religion here about water; it's just that I'm in
Southern California and do a lot of desert hiking, so
hydration is a real problem in my particular environment.
I've got a couple of friends dead from dehydration, one
up on Rattlesnake above Los Angeles and another on
Martinez up above Palm Springs.

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

lever...@linkpendium.com (Wolf Leverich) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:58:01 UT

You bet.
Different environments, different gear.
Also, different people need different gear sets to stay
safe. Some folks have naturally higher metabolisms, and
they need carbs to stay warm; other people just don't
burn that much and gotta have layers.
Cheers, Wolf.

Australia's Pinnacles Desert - Memorials to Global Warming

i...@oz-greetings.com.au (blacklight) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:24:00 UT

The Pinnacles Desert in Australia’s Nambung National Park is an eerie
field of tombstones. Global warming made it. Watch a great clip of it
at [link]. There is an
article about these eye-catchers at
[link].

Re: very warm natural fibers

vtsk...@somewhere.net (VtSkier) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:12:11 UT

Uhm, just curious. Why are you so set on 'only'
natural fabrics?
Many synthetics which may do a better job and
be lighter than naturals are up to 100%
recycled material. Some poly-fleece is 100%
recycled milk containers, for instance.

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

mygarbage...@verizon.net (Wayne) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:37:32 UT

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I spent a week at a camp in Baja California where the camp manager had
arrived at an understanding with the coyotes. They wanted water from the
camp, and nothing else. They would come into camp and steal/destroy the
black solar water bladders that were for shower use. The camp manager got
rid of the problem by carrying a bucket of water a quarter mile out of camp

Re: very warm natural fibers

notherm...@not.here (nothermark) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:20:02 UT

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:02:54 -0500 (EST), p...@grex.org (Graven Water)
wrote:
If you already have a bulky sweater I'd go for better underwear and
maybe a light wool shirt under the sweater and pants. You answer is
going to be layers more than materials.
There are many different wool fibers but most are not commercially

[l/m 7/28/2008] Phone/address list Distilled Wisdom (7/28) XYZ

eug...@empress.cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:20:01 UT

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
7/ Phone / address list *THIS ONE*
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / advice and Rachel Carson
9/ Water Filter wisdom
10/ Volunteer Work
11/ Snake bite
12/ Netiquette
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.

Re: very warm natural fibers

p...@grex.org (Graven Water) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:44:31 UT

So is a wool jersey good at keeping wind out? Perhaps one could wear a
wool jersey and a big sweater or two underneath?
I already have a (synthetic) jacket shell, so I don't need a shell now -
so that would be for the future.
It seems like the best plan might be to use a shell and wear wool
sweater(s) under it.

Re: very warm natural fibers

p...@grex.org (Graven Water) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:08:03 UT

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

crowel...@lightspamandismatterevil.com (Ben Crowell) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:51:01 UT

I agree 100% with the spirit of your post. OTOH, I want to be
grouchy and argumentative about dehydration. Dehydration can
kill you fairly quickly compared to, e.g., malnutrition. But
people vastly overestimate the need for hydration. The whole
thing about needing x liters of water per day is an urban

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

f...@btpost.net (Bruce in alaska) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:33:08 UT

In article <0051ec28$0$16926$c3e8...@news .astraweb.com>,
You just need to go to where the coyotes live.... I have a small pack
that live in my Close Neighborhood (Close = 10 Sq Miles) and have for
the last 4 -5 years. I see them about once a month, and their tracks,
weekly... They aren't interested in "Me" or my other human Close