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[l/m 7/30/2008] References Distilled Wisdom (28/28) XYZ

2009-11-28T13:20:01Z

Panel 28
<most pot hole filling [reformatting, citation completion] welcome>
Related news groups:
rec.arts.books.*
rec.arts.books.reviews (moderated)
alt.books.reviews
REFERENCES
References to whitewater are now in rec.boats.paddle
Climbing references will shortly be moved to rec.climbing
Scouting references moved to rec.scouting

The Typical Mountain Biker Demonstrates Their Attitude

2009-11-27T16:42:35Z

[link]

[l/m 2/17/2009] Film/Cinema Distilled wisdom (27/28) XYZ

2009-11-27T13:20:02Z

Panel 27
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
27/ Films/cinema references <* THIS PANEL *>
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER
2/ Ethics
3/ Learning I
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments)
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion
7/ Phone / address lists

[l/m 5/30/2006] Related news groups & web info: Distilled Wisdom (26/28) XYZ

2009-11-26T13:20:01Z

At this time, this group (r.b.) is not mail gatewayed.
If you wish to test post, you should realize that various little test groups
exist like misc.test, ba.test, ca.test, etc. The specific advantage of
these test groups is that some sites have automatic daemons which mail
ACKnowledgements back to you. Make REAL posts as a test in this group.

[l/m 9/7/2004] High tech employment, a romantic notion DW (25/28) XYZ

2009-11-25T13:20:01Z

Panel 25
So you want a job in the backcountry?
What are you doing in computers?
Don't expect to find anything in misc.jobs.offered.
GO visit a job placement office.
4. There are many senses of the word "wealth," not all of them material.
I'm not talking about trying to make a deep philosophical point here

[l/m 6/29/94] What is "natural?" Distilled Wisdom (24/28) XYZ

2009-11-24T13:20:01Z

Panel 24
A common thread which underlies the fundamental values in
all backcountry discussions is the issues of what is "natural"
and what is its relation to the "human" state? For most people,
the "woods" offer a place to see the natural world. That world
IS "reality." That is where the recreative effect takes places.

[l/m 1/22/2008] Song Distilled Wisdom (23/28) XYZ

2009-11-23T13:20:02Z

Panel 23
...
They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum
Then they charged all the people a dollar and a half just to see them.
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got till its gone.
They paved paradise and put down a parking lot.
--Joni Mitchell
Schnell (To the tune of the Marine Corps hymn):

ANOTHER Criminal Mountain Biker!

2009-11-22T19:19:25Z

[link]
Police Searching For Robbery Suspect On Bike
Last Update: 11/21 2:47 pm
Slideshow CINCINNATI -- Police are looking for a suspect who robbed
two victims Friday.
The robbery happened at Ninth and Race Street around 2:00 p.m.

[l/m 4/24/2006] Babies and Kids Distilled Wisdom (22/28) XYZ

2009-11-22T13:20:02Z

DRAFT
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
22/ Babies and Kids <* THIS PANEL *>
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment
26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking
27/ Films/cinema references
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER

Tara Llanes, a champion downhill mountain biker, suffered a horrific crash while racing at the Jeep King of the Mountain event

2009-11-21T22:25:58Z

If this can happen to a "champion", ordinary mountain bikers are at an
even greater risk....
Mike
[link]
2010 Race for Tara date announced
Published: Nov. 21, 2009
Press Release
The mountain bike park at Northstar-at-Tahoe resort will host the Race

[l/m 8/16/96] AMS Distilled Wisdom (21/28) XYZ

2009-11-21T13:20:02Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
21/ AMS <* THIS PANEL *>
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment
26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking
27/ Films/cinema references
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER

ANOTHER Serious Injury Caused by Mountain Biking!

2009-11-20T16:24:02Z

So much for the alleged "health benefits" of mountain biking....
Mike
[link]
Hincapie leads charity ride
Article published:
November 19, 13:07
By:
Hedwig Kröner
$15,000 raised to cover medical expenses for injured cyclist

[l/m 6/24/2009] Telling questions r.b. Turing test DW: (20/28) XYZ

2009-11-20T13:20:02Z

Descriptive portion of the test
True or false:
New York is where I'd rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay.
I just adore a penthouse view. Darling I love you, but give me Park Avenue.
Fresh Air...
Times square...
You are my wife
Good bye city life
Green Acres We are THERE!!!!
If True, hit 'n' now.

[l/m 6/2/2008] Lyme Disease: Distilled Wisdom (19/28) XYZ

2009-11-19T13:20:01Z

Reply-To: dmil...@rodan.acs.syr.edu "Daniel Miller"
The most current recommended site for information is the
Centers for Disease Control (CDC):
[link]
[link]
Accept no substitutes. 8^)
See
Please note that this vaccine has not been manufactured since 2002 and

[l/m 5/2/2007] Oak/Ivy Distilled Wisdom (18/28) XYZ

2009-11-18T13:20:02Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question <* THIS PANEL *>
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question
20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test
21/ AMS
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment

Re: The scary mathematics behind energy depletion and population growth

2009-11-17T23:11:53Z

On Nov 16, 10:03 am, GreenLifeInnovators <p...@green-life-
America adds appx. 1 million legal immigrants per year and who knows
how many illegals.
Environmental disaster ahead.
Martin

[l/m 4/12/2007] Information on bears: Distilled Wisdom (17/28) XYZ

2009-11-17T13:20:01Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
17/ Information about bears <* THIS PANEL *>
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question
20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test (under construction)
21/ AMS
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)

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[l/m 6/15/2009] Morbid backcountry/memorial: Distilled Wisdom (16/28) XYZ

2009-11-16T13:20:01Z

Panel 16
The section on statistics is going to be replaced by a reference.....
to shorten this panel.
Calibration:
Hey America, what time is it?
Every 2 seconds a criminal offense
Every 12 seconds a burglary
Every 17 seconds a violent crime
Every 20 seconds vehicle is stolen

[l/m 8/17/2009] Leopold's post Distilled Wisdom (15/28) XYZ

2009-11-15T13:20:01Z

ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-14T17:41:54Z

[link]
A truly green exit after a bank heist
By Sam Wood
Inquirer Staff Writer
Kenneth Pagan may be a bank robber and considered "armed and
dangerous" by the FBI, but he cares about the environment.
As proof, the FBI yesterday released surveillance photos showing Pagan

[l/m 4/16/01] Leopold's Land Ethic Distilled Wisdom (14/28) XYZ

2009-11-14T13:20:01Z

Panel 14
If we had in the city six vacant lots available to youngsters of a
certain neighborhood for playing ball, it might be 'development' to
build houses on the first, and the second, and the third, and the fourth,
and even on the fifth, but when we build houses on the last one, we forget
what houses are for. The sixth house would not be development at all

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[l/m 8/22/95] Questions on conditions and travel DW (13/28) XYZ

2009-11-13T13:20:01Z

Panel 13
Travel questions:
"...the guided tour was profoundly depressing. When we told
our guide that we didn't want to go to all the tourist places
he took us instead to the places where they take tourists
who say that they don't want to go to tourist palces.
These places are, of course, full of tourists.

Snow pants - integral or separate gaiters

2009-11-12T23:46:40Z

I guess winter is coming up and I may be looking to play in the snow a
bit.
I've got a few waterproof-breathable pants with integrated gaiters
(sometimes called "snow skirts"?) built into the bottom. There's one
particular pair I like that fits well but might be a tad (may 1/2") on
the short side. When I wear them the hems line up right about at my

Happy Birthday, Charlie Manson!

2009-11-12T23:39:46Z

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:01:24 -0800 (PST), Dänk 1010011010
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ted

Western Canadian Adventure Travel Website Poised For Over 100,000 Page Reads in 2009!

2009-11-12T23:03:59Z

When the Western Canadian Online Outdoors News, re-branded and became
Ya’Gotta, in 2006, they never expected the new name and domain
([link]), to have such unexpected increase in traffic.
“After the re-branding, we had over 63,000 page views in 2007.” says
Ya’Gotta’s publisher, Bob Kenyon. “The next year, in 2008, we had

[l/m 8/12/96] Netiquette: Distilled Wisdom (12/28) XYZ

2009-11-12T13:20:01Z

Panel 12
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
12/ Netiquette <* THIS PANEL *>
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.
16/ Morbid backcountry/memorial
17/ Information about bears
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question

Central Ohio Mountaineering Society

2009-11-11T15:39:00Z

[link]

Beware - Child Molester

2009-11-11T01:31:39Z

Beware:
Convicted child molester Larry Riddle of Damascus VA is on the loose
riddle_la...@yahoo.com
Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system

[l/m 1/25/2007] Snakebite: Distilled Wisdom (11/28) XYZ

2009-11-11T13:20:02Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
11/ Snakebite < this panel >
12/ Netiquette
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.
16/ Morbid backcountry/memorial
17/ Information about bears
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question

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[l/m 9/9/2002] Volunteer Work : Distilled Wisdom (10/28) XYZ

2009-11-10T13:20:01Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
10/ Volunteer work <* THIS PANEL *>
11/ Snake bite
12/ Netiquette
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.
16/ Morbid backcountry/memorial
17/ Information about bears
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question

Beware!!

2009-11-10T01:35:38Z

Beware:
Larry Riddle of Damascus, VA is a convicted child molester
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White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-10T04:04:34Z

I have a MSR Wisperlight stove. Apparently, I have problems priming
the stove properly in windy/cold conditions (actually, not that windy
and cold, may be 30-40 mph wind in ~15-20F temps, 9000 ft). Despite
the fact that I use the foil windscreen that came with the stove, and
wrap a camping pad around the stove during priming/use to protect

Beware

2009-11-10T00:28:14Z

Beware:
Larry Riddle of Damascus, VA is a convicted child molester

[l/m 9/30/2009] Water filters & Giardia Distilled Wisdom (9/28) XYZ

2009-11-09T13:20:01Z

Panel 9
Index:
a. Backcountry Drinking
[Comparison of filters, boiling and iodine]
Alan Dove, Bill Tuthill
1996
Filters: First Need, Katadyn, MSR, PUR
Boiling, Iodine: PolarPure, Potable-Aqua
b. GIARDIASIS Memo from Center from Disease Control, 1990 memo
by Dennis D. Juranek replaced with URL link to the CDC

[l/m 6/5/2002] C. Fletcher/R. Carson /Eco-warriors Distilled Wisdom (8/28) XYZ

2009-11-08T13:20:01Z

Panel 8
If you are just beginning activities like hiking, perhaps some of the best
books written on the subject are those by Colin Fletcher. He has tried to
keep his editions current with trends such as equipment, but his spirit
comes through in books like The Complete Walker (his beginner guide)
and The Thousand Mile Summer (walking the length of California

Australia's Pinnacles Desert - Memorials to Global Warming

2009-11-07T23:24:00Z

The Pinnacles Desert in Australia’s Nambung National Park is an eerie
field of tombstones. Global warming made it. Watch a great clip of it
at [link]. There is an
article about these eye-catchers at
[link].

[l/m 7/28/2008] Phone/address list Distilled Wisdom (7/28) XYZ

2009-11-07T13:20:01Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
7/ Phone / address list *THIS ONE*
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / advice and Rachel Carson
9/ Water Filter wisdom
10/ Volunteer Work
11/ Snake bite
12/ Netiquette
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.

[l/m 9/5/2003] summary of one past topic Not Distilled wisdom (6/28) XYZ

2009-11-06T13:20:01Z

Panel 6
THIS IS NOT A DISTILLED WISDOM FILE. It is a running summary
of one topic discussed in this news group since inception.
Most readers have opinions pro and con, we do not attempt to summarize
all these here.
<OUTLINE TO GO HERE>
The following is a summary of points made in five separate rounds of

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2009-11-06T01:59:19Z

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"Responsible" [sic] Organized Mountain Pedalers Is Now Led By an Illegal Trailbuilder!

2009-11-05T17:11:24Z

"ecocyclist", my ass!
Mike
To: r...@ns.live555.com
List-Subscribe: <[link]>,
<mailto:romp-requ...@lists.liv e555.com?subject=subscribe>
Hi ROMPers,
So, I guess it's now my duty to report these things. Josh, after four
years at the helm of ROMP, has been successful in recruiting a

Mountain Bikers Are Auto-Dependent!

2009-11-05T17:09:02Z

While claiming to benefit the environment, they are actually doing far
more damage than any hiker!
Mike
To: bbtcmemb...@yahoogroups.com
Quick update based on a meeting with King County yesterday...
The great news is that Duthie's popularity is far exceeding our
expectations. The bad news is that we don't have enough parking for

[l/m 12/11/2007] summary of past topics Distilled non-wisdom (5/28) XYZ

2009-11-05T13:20:01Z

Panel 5
A summary of topics discussed in this news group since inception.
Most have opinions pro and con, we do not attempt to summarize these here.
Topics: (many topics discussed in other groups instead e.g., r.b.p.)
See Special section on panel 12 (netiquette) about pyramid scheme
(Dave Rhodes) and Craig Shergold post card posts.

[l/m 7/8/2003] learning (2) Distilled wisdom (4/28) XYZ

2009-11-04T13:20:01Z

Panel 4 Learning, part 2
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments) <* THIS PANEL *>
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion
7/ Phone / address lists
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / Rachel Carson / Foreman and Hayduke

[l/m 9/6/2006] learning (I) Distilled wisdom (3/28) XYZ

2009-11-03T13:20:01Z

Panel 3 Learning, part 1
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
3/ Learning I <* THIS PANEL *>
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments)
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion
7/ Phone / address lists
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / Rachel Carson / Foreman and Hayduke

"Mountain biker who died named"

2009-11-02T18:15:17Z

Too bad he wasn't smart enough not to mountain bike....
Mike
[link]
Mountain biker who died named
Mon, 2 Nov 2009
News: Dunedin
The 56-year-old Dunedin man who collapsed and died while cycling at
Lake Hawea on Friday was Dr David Peacock.