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Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-24T15:54:28Z

Please do not feed the trolls, he's overfed as it is.
Opus

[l/m 6/29/94] What is "natural?" Distilled Wisdom (24/28) XYZ

2009-11-24T13:20:01Z

Panel 24
A common thread which underlies the fundamental values in
all backcountry discussions is the issues of what is "natural"
and what is its relation to the "human" state? For most people,
the "woods" offer a place to see the natural world. That world
IS "reality." That is where the recreative effect takes places.

Re: White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-23T21:45:54Z

That part is fine.
The OP is a novice who merely has to take the plunge and learn how to
not overcompensate priming.
I try to let others do the cooking as much as possible.
I don't see myself as a winter backbacker. I'm an Alpinist and a polar
explorer. A lot of others did this stuff decades before me and it's no

Re: White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-23T21:40:18Z

In article <slrnhges8b.pgu.lever...@askin -17.linkpendium.com>,
Sometimes, somewhat.
Hydrocarbons also have some break down over time.
I can't speak for the general case. Yeah, I've found tiny amount of water
or rust and even glycol, but that wasn't from a Coleman(tm) can.
The main point should be to get experience.

Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-23T20:17:59Z

All I see is how easy it is for you to perpetuate a lie you told.
That's two people. Do you understand the difference between TWO and
ALL, or are you pretending to be stupid?
Furthermore, can't you read? You gave me more silly observations. I
want proof. Show me that your preposterous sample represents the

[l/m 1/22/2008] Song Distilled Wisdom (23/28) XYZ

2009-11-23T13:20:02Z

Panel 23
...
They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum
Then they charged all the people a dollar and a half just to see them.
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got till its gone.
They paved paradise and put down a parking lot.
--Joni Mitchell
Schnell (To the tune of the Marine Corps hymn):

ANOTHER Criminal Mountain Biker!

2009-11-22T19:19:25Z

[link]
Police Searching For Robbery Suspect On Bike
Last Update: 11/21 2:47 pm
Slideshow CINCINNATI -- Police are looking for a suspect who robbed
two victims Friday.
The robbery happened at Ninth and Race Street around 2:00 p.m.

[l/m 4/24/2006] Babies and Kids Distilled Wisdom (22/28) XYZ

2009-11-22T13:20:02Z

DRAFT
TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
22/ Babies and Kids <* THIS PANEL *>
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment
26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking
27/ Films/cinema references
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER

Tara Llanes, a champion downhill mountain biker, suffered a horrific crash while racing at the Jeep King of the Mountain event

2009-11-21T22:25:58Z

If this can happen to a "champion", ordinary mountain bikers are at an
even greater risk....
Mike
[link]
2010 Race for Tara date announced
Published: Nov. 21, 2009
Press Release
The mountain bike park at Northstar-at-Tahoe resort will host the Race

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-21T21:00:40Z

I'm relativley tolerant of your idiocy, thus far..
Oh, didn't dot.com till later in life?
Even worse then, as you'd be expected to have developed some decorum and
manner by now.
Oh nuts, hence our miasma of mixed results...
Actually I think you refer to KBR, as HAL is in oil and gas production,
but no matter.

[l/m 8/16/96] AMS Distilled Wisdom (21/28) XYZ

2009-11-21T13:20:02Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
21/ AMS <* THIS PANEL *>
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment
26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking
27/ Films/cinema references
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER

Re: White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-21T04:48:11Z

In point of fact, water contamination seems to go hand-in-hand
*rust* contamination, and rust flakes actually cause more problems
than a little water in a stove.
The Coleman funnels seem to be pretty good at keeping the rust
out of the fuel going into the stove ...
Cheers, Wolf.

Re: White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-21T03:35:38Z

In article <4b05ed5d$1@darkstar>, Eugene Miya says...
Yes that is true, it may not be water contaminated fuel. I was however
responding to Mike Romain's statement about the nature of the felt material in
the "Coleman funnels".
I believe that the initial OP's problem may stem from priming procedure or

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-21T00:22:30Z

Er. I think you confuse an intolerance of idiocy with a
haughty and condescending manner. ;)
Interesting sentiment, but I wasn't wealthy early in life. Having
had more illusions and less common sense than Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh,
and the rest of the chickenhawks, I wasted a considerable number of
years working on America's defense.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T22:25:49Z

lol.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T22:25:05Z

You lied again.
Hate, Pro.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T22:24:45Z

Your haughty and condescending manner belies a wounded inner child.
How sad that wealth which comes early in life is oft times wasted on
those least equipped to cope with it.
Hate, Pro.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T21:43:26Z

My GAWD, Mr. Wolf, I admire your forthrightness in describing your flaws. I
do believe your condition falls within the parameters of the Americans with
Disabilities Act and will qualify you for a Handicapped Parking sticker.
Check with your social worker for confirmation.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T21:27:56Z

I always tell the truth.
As a practical matter, it's much easier than lying and
telling the truth makes it virtually impossible to get
tangled up in inconsistencies.
I'm kinda amazed at reality-challenged people. By and
large, believing in the Tooth Fairy is not a promising
path to success in life.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T21:21:25Z

Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid.
And it is "perceived".
Love, Wolf.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T20:59:59Z

You'd be amazed what an egomaniac he is.
Get him to tell you all bout his mansion and net worth.
He will, trust me...
[link]

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T20:56:33Z

YOU ARE A LIAR.
Hate, Pro.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T20:55:19Z

Put a bullet through your useless head, then we can all have a party,
dipshit.
Hate, Pro.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T20:28:38Z

Translation: "Oops, shown up again to be the massive twit that I am."
Blah, blah, blah. Nice try at misdirection, but it doesn't work. What was
show was that in Washington State, the amount of fraud that was caught, was
indicative of the broader base of fraudulent ballots that got through. That
was the reason why the number of ballots cast and COUNTED did not match, by

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T18:44:54Z

Better reading comprehension skills than most. ;)
But I don't think I would have argued that Republicans
commit more voter fraud, or at least *ballot* fraud, than
Democrats. I'd have to look at the current stats.
Some things like the Ohio 2004 post-game play look interesting
from that perspective, but I don't know how that election was

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T18:31:45Z

WE HAVE ANOTHER WINNER!
Yet another Republican with 3rd-grade reading comprehension skills!
You prolly think there were WMD in Iraq and the Earth is 6,000 years
old, too, right ?
I wrote, and you quoted it below, "So where's the evidence of
massive organized ACORN *ballot* fraud?" And you are so stupid

ANOTHER Serious Injury Caused by Mountain Biking!

2009-11-20T16:24:02Z

So much for the alleged "health benefits" of mountain biking....
Mike
[link]
Hincapie leads charity ride
Article published:
November 19, 13:07
By:
Hedwig Kröner
$15,000 raised to cover medical expenses for injured cyclist

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T13:37:01Z

He changed the parameter of his question several weeks ago. His argument
that Republicans commit more voter fraud than Democrats fell flat on its
face so he changed the subject.

[l/m 6/24/2009] Telling questions r.b. Turing test DW: (20/28) XYZ

2009-11-20T13:20:02Z

Descriptive portion of the test
True or false:
New York is where I'd rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay.
I just adore a penthouse view. Darling I love you, but give me Park Avenue.
Fresh Air...
Times square...
You are my wife
Good bye city life
Green Acres We are THERE!!!!
If True, hit 'n' now.

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T07:37:51Z

....snip
You asked for evidence of ACORN fraud and it was presented. Now you try to
change the parameter of your question. YAWN. So typical. During the
time-frame of the reported ACORN fraud in Washington State (see the cite
below) the governor's race that year hinged on less than 200 votes. It
involved re-counts and a court battle. The ACORN fraud was discovered well

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-20T04:01:38Z

YOU ARE A MORON.
You are precisely what's wrong with the contemporary Republican
Party. Obviously your central nervous system terminates at the
medulla oblongata.
If you read your own list, virtually all of these are examples
of *registration* fraud. Most are the result of paying street
people piecework rates to generate filled-out cards.

Re: White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-20T01:14:05Z

This presumes water is the contaminant.
Not always.

[l/m 6/2/2008] Lyme Disease: Distilled Wisdom (19/28) XYZ

2009-11-19T13:20:01Z

Reply-To: dmil...@rodan.acs.syr.edu "Daniel Miller"
The most current recommended site for information is the
Centers for Disease Control (CDC):
[link]
[link]
Accept no substitutes. 8^)
See
Please note that this vaccine has not been manufactured since 2002 and

Re: Election by appearance

2009-11-18T21:57:05Z

[link]
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for
falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for
submitting false voter registrations.
2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering

Re: The scary mathematics behind energy depletion and population growth

2009-11-18T20:22:30Z

But there are so damn many Americans who refruse to see. I guess it
would be non-PC to admit that the country is way overpopulated. It's
the business interests who want constant, unending, population
growth. And big business has brain washed all the young people, the
college students, the liberals, into supporting their insane agenda.

[l/m 5/2/2007] Oak/Ivy Distilled Wisdom (18/28) XYZ

2009-11-18T13:20:02Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question <* THIS PANEL *>
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question
20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test
21/ AMS
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment

Re: The scary mathematics behind energy depletion and population growth

2009-11-18T00:54:39Z

Re: The scary mathematics behind energy depletion and population growth

2009-11-17T23:11:53Z

On Nov 16, 10:03 am, GreenLifeInnovators <p...@green-life-
America adds appx. 1 million legal immigrants per year and who knows
how many illegals.
Environmental disaster ahead.
Martin

[l/m 4/12/2007] Information on bears: Distilled Wisdom (17/28) XYZ

2009-11-17T13:20:01Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
17/ Information about bears <* THIS PANEL *>
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question
20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test (under construction)
21/ AMS
22/ Babies and Kids
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)

Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-17T04:08:43Z

Guess I don't. Guess we're even.

Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-17T03:34:14Z

BS. See [link]. Yes, humans are part of
the environment: by far the most DESTRUCTIVE part!
I also understand that
No, only once in my life.
Or maybe you do all your
No. Bicycle & public transit.
Is that your
You obviously know NOTHING about me, or much of anything else.

Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-17T03:30:55Z

It's obvious to anyone who knows mountain bikers, as I do. I have yet
to meet even ONE mountain biker who obeys the law. I saw two mountain
bikers today. One was riding over the 15 MPH speed limit. The other
one was riding with his dog, and let the dog shit in the park and
didn't pick up after it. QED See how easy it is?

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[l/m 6/15/2009] Morbid backcountry/memorial: Distilled Wisdom (16/28) XYZ

2009-11-16T13:20:01Z

Panel 16
The section on statistics is going to be replaced by a reference.....
to shorten this panel.
Calibration:
Hey America, what time is it?
Every 2 seconds a criminal offense
Every 12 seconds a burglary
Every 17 seconds a violent crime
Every 20 seconds vehicle is stolen

Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-16T03:20:26Z

Keep it up, Mike.
You have once again shown yourself to be
the biggest bigot and misanthrope usenet
has ever seen. Again, you don't know me,
you don't know people who ride bicycles
(or anything else for that matter). You
see the world ONLY through your own
peculiar set of lenses. You fail to see
that humans are part of the environment

Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-16T03:15:15Z

Since you are a bit of a math and statistics whiz, why don't you go
ahead and show us proof that ALL mountain bikers are "involved in
breaking the law."
And don't waste anyone's time with more of your preposterous
observations and your extremely limited myopic "experience." Your
observation skills have already been proved biased and unreliable.

Re: ANOTHER Typical Mountain Biker Robs a Bank!

2009-11-16T02:57:33Z

I responded to your subject line, wherein YOU
characterized Typical Mountain Bikers as Bank
Robbers, or You typified mountain biker activity
as robbing banks. Take your pick.
Learn to read! He is a typical mountain biker because he's engaged
in BREAKING THE LAW. DUH!
his bike) has so many holes in it it should be

Re: White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-16T01:26:00Z

On Nov 15, 5:52 am, "Stormin Mormon"
May be freezing the fuel will work, but after taking the container out
of the freezer I would need to let it warm up to the room temp before
opening to avoid condensation on the inside - a long process
(overnight) for gallon-size Coleman containers.
I suppose I can always purchase fuel in smaller quart container size

Re: White gas stove in wind/cold

2009-11-15T20:09:16Z

I have a couple Coleman funnels that have a felt or something like that
filter in them that takes the water out. I can see the water beading on
the top of it.
Mike