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Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

2009-11-08T02:19:45Z

Yup, you're right.
No religion here about water; it's just that I'm in
Southern California and do a lot of desert hiking, so
hydration is a real problem in my particular environment.
I've got a couple of friends dead from dehydration, one
up on Rattlesnake above Los Angeles and another on
Martinez up above Palm Springs.

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

2009-11-08T01:58:01Z

You bet.
Different environments, different gear.
Also, different people need different gear sets to stay
safe. Some folks have naturally higher metabolisms, and
they need carbs to stay warm; other people just don't
burn that much and gotta have layers.
Cheers, Wolf.

Australia's Pinnacles Desert - Memorials to Global Warming

2009-11-07T23:24:00Z

The Pinnacles Desert in Australia’s Nambung National Park is an eerie
field of tombstones. Global warming made it. Watch a great clip of it
at [link]. There is an
article about these eye-catchers at
[link].

Re: very warm natural fibers

2009-11-07T22:12:11Z

Uhm, just curious. Why are you so set on 'only'
natural fabrics?
Many synthetics which may do a better job and
be lighter than naturals are up to 100%
recycled material. Some poly-fleece is 100%
recycled milk containers, for instance.

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

2009-11-07T16:37:32Z

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I spent a week at a camp in Baja California where the camp manager had
arrived at an understanding with the coyotes. They wanted water from the
camp, and nothing else. They would come into camp and steal/destroy the
black solar water bladders that were for shower use. The camp manager got
rid of the problem by carrying a bucket of water a quarter mile out of camp

Re: very warm natural fibers

2009-11-07T15:20:02Z

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:02:54 -0500 (EST), p...@grex.org (Graven Water)
wrote:
If you already have a bulky sweater I'd go for better underwear and
maybe a light wool shirt under the sweater and pants. You answer is
going to be layers more than materials.
There are many different wool fibers but most are not commercially

[l/m 7/28/2008] Phone/address list Distilled Wisdom (7/28) XYZ

2009-11-07T13:20:01Z

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:
7/ Phone / address list *THIS ONE*
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / advice and Rachel Carson
9/ Water Filter wisdom
10/ Volunteer Work
11/ Snake bite
12/ Netiquette
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.

Re: very warm natural fibers

2009-11-06T17:44:31Z

So is a wool jersey good at keeping wind out? Perhaps one could wear a
wool jersey and a big sweater or two underneath?
I already have a (synthetic) jacket shell, so I don't need a shell now -
so that would be for the future.
It seems like the best plan might be to use a shell and wear wool
sweater(s) under it.

Re: very warm natural fibers

2009-11-06T16:08:03Z

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

2009-11-07T01:51:01Z

I agree 100% with the spirit of your post. OTOH, I want to be
grouchy and argumentative about dehydration. Dehydration can
kill you fairly quickly compared to, e.g., malnutrition. But
people vastly overestimate the need for hydration. The whole
thing about needing x liters of water per day is an urban

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

2009-11-06T20:33:08Z

In article <0051ec28$0$16926$c3e8...@news .astraweb.com>,
You just need to go to where the coyotes live.... I have a small pack
that live in my Close Neighborhood (Close = 10 Sq Miles) and have for
the last 4 -5 years. I see them about once a month, and their tracks,
weekly... They aren't interested in "Me" or my other human Close

Re: Hiker dies after being attacked by coyotes! So what should we do to protect ourselves?

2009-11-06T20:20:38Z

In article <slrnhf8gio.npi.lever...@askin -17.linkpendium.com>,
I suspect that most of these folks just don't have the experience, and
therefor their judgments, and choices, are based on other things, rather
than experience, rational or not.....
there is a BIG difference, between hiking in the rural American Flatlands

Re: very warm natural fibers

2009-11-06T16:50:36Z

Re: very warm natural fibers

2009-11-06T16:02:54Z

Re: Mountain Bikers Are Auto-Dependent!

2009-11-06T16:17:45Z

And that makes it okay for mountain bikers to drive? Idiot.
<JS>
No, it does not make it okay, but it demonstrates that YOU are auto
dependent, therefore pissing and moaning that one group that you don't like
is auto dependent, while ignoring the fact that the group you do like is
also auto dependent is at best disengenious.