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Mike Vandeman  
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(1 user)  More options Nov 6, 4:09 am
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry, ca.environment, sci.environment
From: Mike Vandeman <mike.vande...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:09:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 4:09 am
Subject: Mountain Bikers Are Auto-Dependent!
While claiming to benefit the environment, they are actually doing far
more damage than any hiker!

Mike

To: bbtcmemb...@yahoogroups.com
From: "mwestra2" <mwest...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:09:43 -0000
Subject: Duthie Parking Situation

Quick update based on a meeting with King County yesterday...

The great news is that Duthie's popularity is far exceeding our
expectations. The bad news is that we don't have enough parking for
everybody on weekends. I met with KC yesterday and they are working
hard to find parking solutions for Duthie...

1. ASAP: Going to expand the existing crushed rock parking area at the
Lodge. Going to go as big as they can while staying under the permit
threshold.
2. Trying to purchase adjacent properties from 2 landowners. If either
goes through, the problem is solved, but it would obviously still take
a while to get it permitted and built.
3. Working with the LDS church for special event parking. Awesome!
4. If 2. fails, seek 2010 funding to find an alternative solution off
of Issaquah-Fall City Rd (e.g. would take a traffic study, some
traffic modifications and some roadside clearing to be able to turn
the maintenance access road into a safe public access road).

In the meantime, please park respectfully...

* The south maintenance access road and parking in the clearing is for
builders and volunteers attending work parties only.
* Carpool whenever you can (use the Highlands P&R -- just 5-10 min
drive)
* Park visitors should park at the Lodge (north side) -- park close
together on weekends (if you're meeting a buddy and you can't carpool,
park end-to-end so we can fit more cars - the spots are deep enough)
* If it's full, park at Endeavor Elementary School -- it's less than a
10 minute ride to the park from there.
* Please don't park beside the park entrances off of Duthie Hill Rd
and Issaquah-Fall City Rd. The county will be putting up no parking
signs soon.

Maps and more info here:
http://evergreenmtb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Duthie

Please spread the word! Thanks a ton!

Cheers,
Mike


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Jeff Strickland  
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 More options Nov 6, 2:15 pm
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry, ca.environment, sci.environment
From: "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:15:27 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: Mountain Bikers Are Auto-Dependent!

"Mike Vandeman" <mike.vande...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:9200f407-7f71-4846-a806-8534c4a02a0a@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

> While claiming to benefit the environment, they are actually doing far
> more damage than any hiker!

> Mike

Hikers are auto dependet too, you moron.

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Mike Vandeman  
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(1 user)  More options Nov 6, 5:56 pm
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry, ca.environment, sci.environment
From: Mike Vandeman <mike.vande...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:56:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: Mountain Bikers Are Auto-Dependent!
On Nov 5, 7:15 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Mike Vandeman" <mike.vande...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:9200f407-7f71-4846-a806-8534c4a02a0a@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

> > While claiming to benefit the environment, they are actually doing far
> > more damage than any hiker!

> > Mike

> Hikers are auto dependet too, you moron.

And that makes it okay for mountain bikers to drive? Idiot.

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Kayak44  
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 More options Nov 6, 11:19 pm
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry, ca.environment, sci.environment
From: Kayak44 <s200hondas...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:19:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: Mountain Bikers Are Auto-Dependent!
On Nov 6, 1:56 am, Mike Vandeman <mike.vande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 5, 7:15 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > "Mike Vandeman" <mike.vande...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:9200f407-7f71-4846-a806-8534c4a02a0a@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

> > > While claiming to benefit the environment, they are actually doing far
> > > more damage than any hiker!

> > > Mike

> > Hikers are auto dependet too, you moron.

> And that makes it okay for mountain bikers to drive? Idiot.

No more than it makes it ok for you to fly commercial airlines,
hypocrite.

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Jeff Strickland  
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 More options Nov 7, 3:17 am
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry, ca.environment, sci.environment
From: "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:17:45 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:17 am
Subject: Re: Mountain Bikers Are Auto-Dependent!

"Mike Vandeman" <mike.vande...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1ed02cf4-e209-4b54-a9ef-f36cb7969005@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 7:15 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Mike Vandeman" <mike.vande...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:9200f407-7f71-4846-a806-8534c4a02a0a@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

> > While claiming to benefit the environment, they are actually doing far
> > more damage than any hiker!

> > Mike

> Hikers are auto dependet too, you moron.

And that makes it okay for mountain bikers to drive? Idiot.

<JS>
No, it does not make it okay, but it demonstrates that YOU are auto
dependent, therefore pissing and moaning that one group that you don't like
is auto dependent, while ignoring the fact that the group you do like is
also auto dependent is at best disengenious.

YOU claim that you are beneficial to the environment, yet you drive and ride
around in airplanes as you bemoan activities that if halted tomorrow would
benefit less than 0.04% of the environment. You are a quack of the highest
order.

</JS>


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