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  <title type="text">rec.audio.pro Google Group</title>
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  Professional audio recording and studio engineering.
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  <updated>2009-11-08T16:30:50Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>nebulax</name>
  <email>nebu...@earthling.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T16:30:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/ff121962be23b377?show_docid=ff121962be23b377</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  I agree, which also makes me wonder why people are still using &lt;br&gt; NS-10&#39;s. &lt;br&gt; -Neb
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  <author>
  <name>hank alrich</name>
  <email>walki...@nv.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T16:17:00Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/e69aa72ea1201587?show_docid=e69aa72ea1201587</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/e69aa72ea1201587?show_docid=e69aa72ea1201587"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  Right you are, and the progress is damn near astounding. Accuracy now, &lt;br&gt; in spite of the slop, is several orders of magnitude advanced over the &lt;br&gt; old daze. &lt;br&gt; Yep, but still, once you were personally calibrated to the playback &lt;br&gt; system you were able to deliver mixes that translated well even if there &lt;br&gt; was stuff in there of which you had no idea. &amp;lt;g&amp;gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Don Pearce</name>
  <email>s...@spam.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T15:25:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/d55cd7655c39704d?show_docid=d55cd7655c39704d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/d55cd7655c39704d?show_docid=d55cd7655c39704d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:13:28 -0800, &amp;quot;William Sommerwerck&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; Just the other day I was travelling with a friend on the London &lt;br&gt; Underground. we were on our way up the first of two escalators into &lt;br&gt; one of London&#39;s busiest rail terminals when we could just barely hear &lt;br&gt; some brass band music drifting down from the concourse above. We were
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>William Sommerwerck</name>
  <email>grizzledgee...@comcast.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T15:13:28Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/c7b7e63cf0472524?show_docid=c7b7e63cf0472524"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  That&#39;s debatable. (It would be truer of inexpensive-to-moderately priced &lt;br&gt; speakers.) Nevertheless, recordings have reached the point where, when &lt;br&gt; played through really good speakers, they sound a great deal like &amp;quot;the real &lt;br&gt; thing&amp;quot;. &lt;br&gt; Ultimately (and unfortunately), the question of whether sound reproduction
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  <author>
  <name>Scott Dorsey</name>
  <email>klu...@panix.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T15:00:35Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  But by the same token, the best speakers today are _far_ better than the &lt;br&gt; best speakers of the eighties were. &lt;br&gt; I learned to mix on Altec 604s which never sounded _anything_ like the &lt;br&gt; original signal. I play back stuff that I mixed years ago and I hear &lt;br&gt; all kinds of things that I never noticed then. &lt;br&gt; --scott
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>hank alrich</name>
  <email>walki...@nv.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T13:37:49Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/17bde9dc63ac7c3d/e515b53388e666c7?show_docid=e515b53388e666c7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: musical biscuits in the mixing bowl</title>
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  Well thank you, Bob! Prerelease Usenet sales are already up to two &lt;br&gt; units! This thing could sell in the dozens!!
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  <author>
  <name>hank alrich</name>
  <email>walki...@nv.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T13:37:48Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  Some speakers give me a sense of the _reality_ of the sources coming &lt;br&gt; through them. Some do not. Mind you, I most often deal with what I&#39;ll &lt;br&gt; call &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; sounds - acoustic instruments, human voices, sounds that &lt;br&gt; are generated without electrical amplification. &lt;br&gt; Some years ago at an AES convention on the floor of the large exhibit
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  <author>
  <name>Scott Dorsey</name>
  <email>klu...@panix.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T13:36:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/8614adab737767f4?show_docid=8614adab737767f4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/8614adab737767f4?show_docid=8614adab737767f4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  The first one you can easily determine with your ears. Listen to the &lt;br&gt; playback of the vocal with your eyes closed. Does it sound like a real &lt;br&gt; human being is in front of you, or does it sound like a speaker? &lt;br&gt; The second one is a book in itself, and that book is &amp;quot;Microphones&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; published by Bruel and Kjaer. There are actual primary standards for
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Scott Dorsey</name>
  <email>klu...@panix.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T13:31:47Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/b1081998589c69dd/2b3891fa2a571bf8?show_docid=2b3891fa2a571bf8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ampex AG-440 voltage question</title>
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  A: It may not be, but it&#39;s MUCH better to be safe than sorry. In a perfect &lt;br&gt; world, we&#39;d have everything on an isolated circuit anyway. Think of it as &lt;br&gt; free line filtering. &lt;br&gt; The major advantage is better regulation, though. The cheapie autotransformer &lt;br&gt; types aren&#39;t so good about that. And if you&#39;re going for an industrial
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  <author>
  <name>Mike Rivers</name>
  <email>mriv...@d-and-d.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T13:16:34Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/7cd003a23378aa22?show_docid=7cd003a23378aa22"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  They buy monitors based on what they need to hear in order to make &lt;br&gt; recordings that others can enjoy. While you&#39;ll hear some engineers and &lt;br&gt; producers talk about walking between the studio and the control room and &lt;br&gt; hearing exactly the same thing, they&#39;re really exaggerating. And when it &lt;br&gt; comes to mixing a multitrack project that&#39;s been overdubbed and fixed
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mike Rivers</name>
  <email>mriv...@d-and-d.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T13:11:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/b95e622a57f98c15/2330b8c15a8b9d1d?show_docid=2330b8c15a8b9d1d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/b95e622a57f98c15/2330b8c15a8b9d1d?show_docid=2330b8c15a8b9d1d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Level adjusting in Auditon and Audacity</title>
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  Please, what IS this project? Who will be listening to the recording, &lt;br&gt; and why? &lt;br&gt; It sure doesn&#39;t sound like something that anyone would want to listen to &lt;br&gt; for &lt;br&gt; 8 hours straight. Why can&#39;t you break it up into logical pieces that you can &lt;br&gt; manage? &lt;br&gt; Is this simply a product of nobody paying attention to the recording? And if
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mike Rivers</name>
  <email>mriv...@d-and-d.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T13:07:05Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/b95e622a57f98c15/8630a5a8123ff7b8?show_docid=8630a5a8123ff7b8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Level adjusting in Auditon and Audacity</title>
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  It&#39;s the unpaid work that always has the greatest time requirements. The &lt;br&gt; reason is simple - the &amp;quot;customer&amp;quot; doesn&#39;t want to pay what it would cost &lt;br&gt; to do the job.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Arny Krueger</name>
  <email>ar...@hotpop.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T12:06:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/b95e622a57f98c15/dadfcb55b71f4086?show_docid=dadfcb55b71f4086</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/b95e622a57f98c15/dadfcb55b71f4086?show_docid=dadfcb55b71f4086"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Level adjusting in Auditon and Audacity</title>
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  &amp;quot;Gareth Magennis&amp;quot; &amp;lt;sound.serv...@btconnect.com&amp;gt; wrote in &lt;br&gt; message &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=W8qJm.74712$Ro6.5617@newsfe10.ams2&quot;&gt;news:W8qJm.74712$Ro6.5617@newsfe10.ams2&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; By all means. But in the gigs I work, there is a pretty clear boundary line &lt;br&gt; between the prelude and the main show. I guess it is not written in stone &lt;br&gt; that it *has* to be that way.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Arny Krueger</name>
  <email>ar...@hotpop.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T12:04:34Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/f0cea4a25c274d79?show_docid=f0cea4a25c274d79"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  Compared to the best or even just good live sound, yes. &lt;br&gt; Agreed. &lt;br&gt; There are some basic requirements of a good studio monitor that simply cost &lt;br&gt; money: &lt;br&gt; (1) Extended range, especially in the bass &lt;br&gt; (2) Good dynamic range, perhaps in a larger-than-average and more &lt;br&gt; absorptive-than-average room &lt;br&gt; (3) Smooth frequency response
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>muzician21</name>
  <email>muzicia...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T11:16:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/9635e17112351d68?show_docid=9635e17112351d68</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/6b58ed348c98a33d/9635e17112351d68?show_docid=9635e17112351d68"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How is it determined that a monitor is good/accurate?</title>
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  How are either of the above determined, and if so, when pro studios &lt;br&gt; pay however many multiples of thousands for monitors, I assume there &lt;br&gt; must be a reason they do so?
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