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ScottG  
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 More options Nov 6, 1:23 pm
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From: ScottG <sguth...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:23:34 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 1:23 pm
Subject: Museum Sound Test
I've been asked to do a sound test in a museum room to determine what
levels of what kind of sound will bother adjacent rooms.  The room
will be used for parties and social events including events with
music.  Think harp and recorder not rock band.

Can anybody suggest a test or sampler CD that would be appropriate?
It, I believe, has to have the sound of people talking as in a
cocktail party and also people talking with background music.

Thanks for any insight.

Cheers, Scott
s...@acw.com


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From: "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:28:50 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Museum Sound Test

"ScottG" <sguth...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:337bd245-63ec-4036-9459-6fc10b71cf62@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...

I don't know of one, but a reasonable substitute for the coktail party might
be to record a football broadcast.

Bob Morein
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Mike Rivers  
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 More options Nov 6, 11:25 pm
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From: Mike Rivers <mriv...@d-and-d.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:25:20 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Museum Sound Test

ScottG wrote:
> I've been asked to do a sound test in a museum room to determine what
> levels of what kind of sound will bother adjacent rooms.  The room
> will be used for parties and social events including events with
> music.  Think harp and recorder not rock band.

Is the concern that the music for the party will bother normal museum
visitors
in an adjacent room? Or that the sound of normal museum visitors in
adjacent rooms will bother those trying to hear the music at the party?
And is it a listening party? Or is the harp-and-recorder background music?
With amplification or without?

I would think that if it's an issue of the party interfering with the
museum
visitors, the talking would be more of a problem than the music.

"Bother" is very subjective. There's a reasonably useful test signal to
evaluate
speech intelligibility, but that's mostly used to evaluate conference
rooms to
determine if someone listening outside the room can understand what's being
discussed inside. But I don't think that's what you're after here.

If I was visiting, say, an art gallery, and I heard baroque music coming
from
another room, I probably wouldn't be bothered at all. But if I heard a
bunch of
people milling around, trying to talk over the music while having
cocktails, I'd
probably move to a different area of the gallery.


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Scott Dorsey  
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 More options Nov 7, 1:56 am
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From: klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Date: 6 Nov 2009 09:56:22 -0500
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:56 am
Subject: Re: Museum Sound Test
In article <337bd245-63ec-4036-9459-6fc10b71c...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,

ScottG  <sguth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I've been asked to do a sound test in a museum room to determine what
>levels of what kind of sound will bother adjacent rooms.  The room
>will be used for parties and social events including events with
>music.  Think harp and recorder not rock band.

>Can anybody suggest a test or sampler CD that would be appropriate?
>It, I believe, has to have the sound of people talking as in a
>cocktail party and also people talking with background music.

I'd try and get as natural as possible a recording of people speaking.
Record some cocktail party noise, or get some from a film effects library.
Play it back and measure levels.  This also allows you to take the customer
into the room and let them actually hear what it should sound like.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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Richard Crowley  
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 More options Nov 7, 3:53 am
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From: "Richard Crowley" <rcrow...@xp7rt.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:53:35 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:53 am
Subject: Re: Museum Sound Test
"ScottG"  wrote ...

> I've been asked to do a sound test in a museum room to determine what
> levels of what kind of sound will bother adjacent rooms.  The room
> will be used for parties and social events including events with
> music.  Think harp and recorder not rock band.

> Can anybody suggest a test or sampler CD that would be appropriate?
> It, I believe, has to have the sound of people talking as in a
> cocktail party and also people talking with background music.

It should not be difficult to assemble a 3-5 minute loop of SFX from
some of the online vendors such as www.sounddogs.com, et.al.

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Peter Larsen  
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 More options Nov 11, 7:10 am
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From: "Peter Larsen" <digi...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:10:23 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 7:10 am
Subject: Re: Museum Sound Test

ScottG wrote:
> I've been asked to do a sound test in a museum room to determine what
> levels of what kind of sound will bother adjacent rooms.  The room
> will be used for parties and social events including events with
> music.  Think harp and recorder not rock band.

No substitute for the real thing. Get a string quartet and record in the
room as well as in adjacent areas by whatever definition(s) of areas that
applies using same mics and same mic gain, you can then evaluate as well as
quantify.

> Can anybody suggest a test or sampler CD that would be appropriate?

Loudspeakers will not couple to the building the same way.

> It, I believe, has to have the sound of people talking as in a
> cocktail party and also people talking with background music.

I occasionally record at a museum, the real world issue - assuming the music
fits the context - is the noise from the guest that are not at the concert
as heard in the concert space.

Chamber music regularly hits the range 80 to 90 dB SPL in the audience area.
Even then the noise of nearby other museum guests is more likely to be an
issue than the sound of a chamber music concert, such music tends to fit all
contexts but the sound of a crying baby tends not to fit a chamber music
context.

Music that does NOT fit the museum context is likely to be perceived as 20
dB louder than music that does ... O;-)

> Thanks for any insight.
> Cheers, Scott
> s...@acw.com

  Kind regards

  Peter Larsen


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